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tations friends and I apologize for the

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darkness we had some technical issues

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uh on the way to bringing you our

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broadcast this evening

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and uh so we have resolved those

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technical issues and we have our guest

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tonight standing by on the mystery phone

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we haven't used that in quite some time

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uh for those unaware many people have

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been asking me to stop the constant uh

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expose on all the fraud fakery and bull

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in the UFO community and try instead to

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bring you people that I believe are

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credible or good researchers good

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investigators people worthy of listening

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to and uh to be very honest we we keep

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trying and most of the stories that we

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character if you will and and the

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stories that they're telling and just

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statements just pop out and we report

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tired and annoyed of every story leading

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to this person's fake and I get it and I

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researchers and investigators that I do

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find credible but we're looking for more

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of the stories he interviews Witnesses

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behind the stories his name is Jeremy

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as always we want to remind everyone

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that different viewpoints are always

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welcome but we always try to please be

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respectful to the guests he'll be here

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uh sharing his work and research with us

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everybody just be welcoming and

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investigator Jeremy Mater welcome Jeremy

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Hey Stephen thanks for having me on yeah

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sorry for the tech issues but I'm glad

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that we're still able to do this tonight

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uh people have been asking me a lot of

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interested in my things on the ground I

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could touch like the UFO bash a landing

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stop casting the early 2000s I would do

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Roswell UFO episode of all things and

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of those generic UFO crash lists and

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UFOs and things like that and there's a

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library up there in Eureka and one day

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people that had seen alien bodies and

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healing about it and he leave from

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crash and how long did you investigate

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let's get into it

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originally so when you first searched

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the Elio phone crash it gives a date it

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gives a date of in August of 1952 and it

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says 16 alien bodies well that day ends

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of course the day and the details are

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pretty much all wrong close but not but

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not correct of course so the first thing

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that comes up when you search the elite

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crashes that day and there's a video

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um are you able to play that video

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um let's let's table that for now I mean

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can include it in the video description

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all right so there's a video where it's

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where a new station over to Reno Nevada

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which of course is on the other side of

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the state they did I think it's like a

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four or five minute long video when they

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talked to two quick Witnesses and they

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talk about this story

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you will follow that crash and a copper

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is there a way you can put up on my

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second UFO Email Stephen that says Elite

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map yeah let me let me see if I can find

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those emails just bear with me okay yeah

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so you can continue while we while I

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North nap when I first started and I

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asked if you knew anything about the

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case and George Knapp told me that I

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would never though have been exact quote

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from him I would never find information

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and and this will be wait just so just

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so we're clear this is George Knapp of

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Bob Lazar Fame who's telling you you'll

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told me you're chasing a myth you're

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wasting your time chasing a myth is

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literally what he said work for work

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librarian who said that he knew some

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guys that that were there when this

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thing crashed in this copper mine and I

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already knew I had kind of like a lead

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that he didn't have he said that he had

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Ed Pierce and the two witnesses that he

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those were the only witnesses that he

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only one adss over in Ely and I met a

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mine but then I didn't know him and he

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witnesses to this UFO crash and we

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Ely Daily Times newspaper which is the

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yeah and what which was which of the

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Ely UFO crash number three train photos

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number four and then there was one that

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was this is my email I'm at work I'm

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going to try and send you a few photos

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was sent on October 5th it shows okay

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continue I'm sorry I'm gonna keep trying

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to find it here I'm having a little bit

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of trouble of course I'm having trouble

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finding the one yeah if you can forward

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that while you're talking that would be

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great and I do have that video but I'm

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gonna have trouble playing that while

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description so anybody who's curious and

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in that video that Jeremy shared with me

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Reno television station about a UFO

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yeah so there's a book that came out

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and we're in Nevada it's kind of they

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have a TV show like every state has

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their own book it's called like they

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think it was on a e because and it

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wasn't really it wasn't very successful

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but they wrote all these books they had

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a couple pages in there on this Elio

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boat crash uh and they said it was in

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1952 of course they were skipping with

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um I contacted the authors of the book

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they found out that the original story

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came from the 19 early 1970s from a UFO

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and the leader of Mars

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Mars spokesperson you could say his name

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was Willard McIntosh

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uh will Willard MC

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and he's kind of a controversial figure

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with UFOs in like the 1980s and early

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90s

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I guess he did something I'd hate to say

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it but he tried to pass off I guess it

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was a pilot that was burned in a in a

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plane crash he tried to pass it off as

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an alien body at one point and then I

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guess I think it was

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trying to think about what that found

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him but someone had move fun I believe

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this kind of irrelevant to the thing I'm

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about to say but that's I guess one

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thing I when I looked about that's one

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thing I found he was really old at the

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time he wouldn't talk to me on the phone

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and he didn't know how to use a computer

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really he would always write me

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handwritten letters which is kind of

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weird and he ended up doing email and

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talking on the phone later on but early

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on he was only doing letters because I

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don't think he was really small

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computers

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so you've got some old school snail mail

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letters from him that's interesting

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so real quick before I get into the

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details about what happened with the

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crash I'm going to explain a little bit

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about the history of Ely and tell your

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audience it seemed to get a general idea

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of like what what we're talking about

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sure

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um so Ely is in North it's a

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Northeastern Nevada the town's founded

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in the 1870s as a state boat stop and it

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grew when mining picked up they have a

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big the second biggest copper mine in

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the countries out here and as part of

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the mind picking up they actually had a

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railroad that went through the area in

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1906.

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so this railroad ended up coming in

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later on because the mine was doing well

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and the railroad was owned by a company

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called Nevada Northern Railway the

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railroad company was separate from the

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month

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um in the 1950s the specific time frame

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that we're talking about there's a

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company named tenacot that owned this

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mine over in Ruth Nevada

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um Roots Nevada

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was a company town that was built in

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1903

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and Ruth Nevada basically is literally

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built on top of this mines you can

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basically walk to work if you

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so the chemical actually built a town

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called and I I say it's a diagonal line

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it's not really diagonal similar to the

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diagonal but on the far left

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there's a town called roof

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which is where the line was where they

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like I said they might copper and gold

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out of there in the middle

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is is an alien Nevada Ely Nevada is

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where the railroad Depot is and that's

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of course where they keep all the

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training

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and then up about 10 or 12 miles going

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we went Northeast from there you get to

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a town called McGill McGill is a town

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where the smoking was located

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um McGill was located where it is

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because that's the only place where the

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company could get water rides and they

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brought in all these products to bring

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water to the smelters out there so

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roughly what would happen would be uh

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they would mind the ore the copper mine

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they'd send a train from Ely to go get

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the ore and bring it up to McGill once

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they were done smelting it they would

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bring it from McGill either to Chicago

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or to Seattle depending on whoever the

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customer was or whoever was buying it at

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um and again Ely is pretty mountainous I

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do have the uh I do have handy the the

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train photos if you want me to share

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okay all right no problem yeah I'm sorry

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no not yet I got the other three of

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course I don't have the one that you're

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referencing though or I can't find it I

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don't know why it's fine we'll we'll

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we'll be fine we'll uh you know I can I

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can uh share those on my Twitter later

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for those interested for right now uh

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you know this will have to do so you you

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start finding out about all of this and

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it's really and they use the trains the

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trains were involved you even

382
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investigated the trains right oh yeah

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yeah so

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what happened was

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um I talked to Willard McIntyre and so

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we're going back a little bit so I

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talked to the original investigator he

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said that he had gone out there in the

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early 1970s and I guess Marson was a

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group that competed with uh nightcap

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before they became Groupon he was

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competing with nightcap

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and he says that most of his stories

394
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came from the Indian Reservation down

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the road from where this happened

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[Music]

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um

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so I'm going to start telling the story

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about the I was the first actual friend

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I know your audience is probably

401
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thinking of two UFO crashes in the area

402
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,320
that's not what it sounds yeah that's

403
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what interested in me this this is crazy

404
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there's two separate UFO crashes all in

405
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this sleepy little town in the middle of

406
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nowhere in a what 20-year period

407
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yep roughly about 20 years and then

408
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there's a third UFO landing that took

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place in the 1970s but I don't want to

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get too much away about that but I'll

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talk about that later then it'll it'll

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so

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The Story Goes in uh in 1953 in January

414
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1953 January 16th to be specific

415
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the the miners were working at this big

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copper mine at about 9 30 10 o'clock at

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night so they're on the night shift they

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start seeing a glowing public object

419
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glowing purple and blue and it's going

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through the sky

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kind of gliding silently and it's losing

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altitude so whatever it was it wasn't

423
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going very fast with what the witness

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would say

425
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um

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so this obvious gliding through the sky

427
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it's completely silent it's going purple

428
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and blue and they're saying that this

429
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thing is cylinder shaped and so this

430
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thing's silently going through the

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mountains

432
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is the very mountainous area so there's

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things going through the sky and the

434
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mind workers are kind of watching it

435
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they stop working and they're watching

436
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the thing coming through the sky

437
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sorry about that yeah it disappears over

438
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an area called the Keystone film okay

439
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the Keystone dump it's basically an area

440
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where they dump mining with

441
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like if your kids like for instance

442
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because this is a this is a hit mine so

443
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they opened they basically blast a big

444
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hole in the ground they dig all the

445
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material out so everything that's not

446
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copper or Not Gold they dump in this big

447
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dump pile they call it the Keystone belt

448
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so given this mine this thing disappears

449
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over the Keystone duck there's a man

450
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named Pete Palace he's a Greek immigrant

451
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and he is a Kennecott security Deputy

452
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which is a fancy word for security guard

453
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so he sees this object disappear over

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the Keystone duck and he gets in his

455
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F-100 truck that the company of course

456
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let him drive around

457
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and he drove out to the Keystone dump I

458
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don't know about how long it took him to

459
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drive around to find this but eventually

460
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over somewhere near the Keystone dump it

461
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comes across this object

462
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uh I talked to his daughters and his

463
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daughters were saying family he pulled

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up for the object the object it didn't

465
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hit the ground and explode there was no

466
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Balls of Fire there was no alien body

467
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this crap was just sitting there on the

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Snowman

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and he was sitting there glowing

470
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silently just like it was in the sky and

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intact as well right and just for the

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benefit just through the benefit of my

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audience who I'm sure will want me to

474
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ask so all of this information you're

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relaying is from firsthand witnesses

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that you interviewed correct yes I

477
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talked

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and second hand third hand anyone that

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would talk to me but I talked to a lot

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of firsthand Witnesses uh the first guy

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that arrived on the scene he had died by

482
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the time I got involved with this so I

483
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talked to his daughter who were living

484
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in Seattle but the next guy I'm about to

485
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say I did talk to him though so

486
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um he pulls up onto the site and when he

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gets to the site this object's sitting

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there

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thing hit the ground from what his

490
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daughter says so Pete he gets in his

491
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truck and drives back the dispatch I

492
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call it dispatch but whatever the

493
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building was called where like the

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security guard hang out and wait to get

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home so he goes back to dispatch and he

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picks up a guy named Vern Kessel

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Vern was Pete's best friend outside of

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work and also his co-worker Okay so

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Pete picks up burn and they drive back

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to this site where this object's sitting

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on the ground

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um

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and then Vern basically looks around

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with Pete and says why did you why did

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you bring me up here I don't know what

506
00:24:22,730 --> 00:24:19,980
this thing is and I guess they sat there

507
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talking for a minute and burn was very

508
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scared he said Pete was all excited and

509
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so was he and at this time though Vern

510
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started saying that this thing started

511
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was smoking when they arrived on the

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scene he said it was smoking his exact

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words was it looked like a hot frying

514
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pan that someone had sprayed with the

515
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that was smoking and he said there was

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no fire there was smoking at this point

517
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the fire was going to break out and they

518
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were wondering what this was Vern had

519
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thought that it was some kind of Russian

520
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satellite or like a Russian airplane

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because at that point of course we

522
00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:01,799
hadn't gone to the Moon yet so they

523
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didn't really he couldn't comprehend

524
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what it was they didn't know if it was a

525
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plane or something that from the space

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program

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so Pete and Vern get back in the spot

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and they drive back to dispatch once

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again

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well when I get back to this batch

531
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one of the security guards they end up

532
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calling the elite the Elite Police

533
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Department over in Amelia Nevada of

534
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course easily is roughly about 10 to 12

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miles from this mine

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um

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did you find that email yet Stephen no I

538
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:37,320
still don't see it and I check my SPAM

539
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:39,480
folder so you know I don't know if you

540
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:41,460
just want to send a new email to the

541
00:25:45,769 --> 00:25:43,260
same email address I don't know why

542
00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:45,779
we're having all these technical issues

543
00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:47,700
oh okay I don't know I'll see what I can

544
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:52,010
yeah so anyways

545
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um

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some one of the security guards whoever

547
00:26:08,029 --> 00:25:57,419
the

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satellites whatever it was so

549
00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:11,580
but they do is they end up calling the

550
00:26:18,649 --> 00:26:15,179
Armory over in Ely in Ely National Guard

551
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and these guard units uh it's actually

552
00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:20,820
battery a second automatic weapons but

553
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,860
Titan they're anti is there an anti-hair

554
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:24,240
bathroom so forth they don't know

555
00:26:27,049 --> 00:26:26,039
nothing about they don't know nothing

556
00:26:28,269 --> 00:26:27,059
about

557
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:28,279
um

558
00:26:31,789 --> 00:26:30,600
hardening up areas and they don't they

559
00:26:34,669 --> 00:26:31,799
weren't trained for this type of stuff

560
00:26:37,850 --> 00:26:34,679
and these guys weren't 100 of the time

561
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:37,860
on duty these guys had normal jobs and

562
00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:39,480
what they would do is they they were

563
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:40,860
kind of like reserves I guess you could

564
00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:43,260
you could call them

565
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:43,980
um

566
00:26:48,769 --> 00:26:46,500
so these guys I was pulled through a 68

567
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:48,779
of them to dig back and like I said it's

568
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:50,520
battery a second automatic weapons

569
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:53,360
Battalion Ely National Guard

570
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:57,600
anti-aircraft group so they end up they

571
00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:59,520
call Hill Air Force Base over in Ogden

572
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,380
Utah and they say that there's been an

573
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:03,600
airplane crash or there's been in some

574
00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:05,340
kind of an aerial crash I guess could be

575
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,539
the way to wear it

576
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:07,679
so

577
00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:10,500
they say we're going to go to the area

578
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:12,419
you need to send someone down here

579
00:27:15,289 --> 00:27:14,100
someone that's trained to do this or

580
00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:15,299
someone that's

581
00:27:19,010 --> 00:27:17,220
something I don't know what the term is

582
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,020
what professional professional someone

583
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,640
that's been trying to do this type of

584
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:22,080
thing

585
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,860
um

586
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,679
so they're given orders they go to this

587
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,600
copper mine and seal off the area and

588
00:27:31,730 --> 00:27:29,279
kick all the miners up

589
00:27:33,710 --> 00:27:31,740
so they drive into the mine they set up

590
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:33,720
a blockade at the front entrance to the

591
00:27:36,529 --> 00:27:34,380
money

592
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:36,539
at the front entrance of the mine I

593
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:37,980
guess a crowd started Gathering because

594
00:27:41,649 --> 00:27:39,720
some of the locals started they saw this

595
00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:41,659
thing fly overhead

596
00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,820
and uh they kicked all the miners out

597
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,860
like I said they formed this blockade

598
00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:49,679
and people from Ruth I guess there was a

599
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:51,299
big dinner party going on it's a famous

600
00:27:55,570 --> 00:27:53,940
story uh there was a dinner party going

601
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:55,580
on

602
00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:01,909
I'll get their names looking for my

603
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:03,260
notes

604
00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:05,640
well it's good that you even have a

605
00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:07,980
notes imagine that you know I got like

606
00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:11,240
five spiral notebook Android's notes

607
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,520
yeah so this family I believe they're

608
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,320
called the Rosenberg

609
00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:18,240
as they're having this dinner party and

610
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,980
they saw this optic go up they're some

611
00:28:24,409 --> 00:28:21,960
of the first ones on the scene and some

612
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:24,419
of the houses the Family's last name is

613
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,440
house

614
00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:27,600
they show up to the blockade and they're

615
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:29,460
told a small plane had just crashed into

616
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,220
the mine and that they needed to go home

617
00:28:36,289 --> 00:28:34,559
but of course they don't they don't go

618
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:36,299
home so this crowd's building up at the

619
00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:38,100
mine

620
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,380
meanwhile

621
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:42,000
I guess I should just take a step back

622
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,200
real quick

623
00:28:49,330 --> 00:28:46,020
while the National Guard units were on

624
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:51,590
go back to dispatch

625
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,720
they picked up like five or between six

626
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:57,360
or eight guys I was told and they drove

627
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:01,440
on another trip this is the peeps pmp's

628
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:04,020
third trip Burns second trip and they

629
00:29:08,269 --> 00:29:05,340
had all these other guys that they

630
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,279
picked up like I said six or eight guys

631
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:10,320
they go to this site where this object

632
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:11,279
is

633
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:15,900
topic sitting on the snow bank glowing

634
00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:18,360
but this time they said the object was

635
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:20,820
Dripping some kind of a molten ooze is

636
00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:23,820
what they the work that they used

637
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,360
um

638
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:26,460
I don't know

639
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,020
if it was some kind of metal that was

640
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:32,399
melting off the crap I don't know if

641
00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:33,960
there's some kind of reaction to the

642
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,159
snow

643
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,880
um that's bizarre I'm not 100 sure

644
00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:40,860
but

645
00:29:45,289 --> 00:29:43,260
anyways yeah so this object's it's

646
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:45,299
smoking and this time it's I guess it's

647
00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:47,640
melting they were saying

648
00:29:52,909 --> 00:29:51,059
and uh some of the miners apparently

649
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,919
when the stuff was hitting the ground it

650
00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:55,200
was kind of hardening into rocks and

651
00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:56,580
some of these miners were picking up

652
00:30:00,590 --> 00:29:59,159
these rocks I was told and in the middle

653
00:30:02,210 --> 00:30:00,600
of them doing all this the military

654
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,220
ended up arriving and they kicked them

655
00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:03,840
out of course

656
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:06,360
uh the miners don't actually get

657
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,520
interrogated that not they got

658
00:30:12,649 --> 00:30:10,799
interrogated a few weeks later weeks

659
00:30:15,049 --> 00:30:12,659
later not days and weeks later and I'll

660
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:15,059
get into that in just a moment

661
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:16,620
so

662
00:30:21,049 --> 00:30:19,020
about two or three in the morning this

663
00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:21,059
Convoy arrives from Hill Air Force Base

664
00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:22,620
in Ogden Utah

665
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,299
and when this

666
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:26,880
Convoy arrives I guess it's it's made up

667
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:28,380
of about

668
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:32,520
six or eight trucks followed by about

669
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:34,980
three or four armored vehicles I don't

670
00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:36,600
know if they didn't specify what kind of

671
00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:37,799
vehicles they said they were armored

672
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,240
vehicles of some kind is what the

673
00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:41,039
Witnesses were saying and I'll get into

674
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:43,140
that in just a moment too and then

675
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,299
followed by three more trucks did

676
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:47,220
anybody realize what kind of uniforms

677
00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:48,840
they were or what branch of the service

678
00:31:09,590 --> 00:30:49,860
or

679
00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:09,600
don't exactly know the 27 hope the 2700

680
00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:12,360
first ammunition group is the one that I

681
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:13,980
know that was there during that

682
00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:16,140
that's the one that the Heidi talk to a

683
00:31:21,889 --> 00:31:18,899
historian and he that's what he told me

684
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:21,899
that they were ammunition group that was

685
00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:23,520
there so I don't know if they had come

686
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:25,740
from another base if they landed there

687
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:28,440
and then they drove there but Ely Nevada

688
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:30,120
didn't have an airport at that point in

689
00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:32,820
fact not one that could suit

690
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,399
like gigantic military bombers Landing

691
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:36,960
in

692
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,559
so this Convoy arrives the crowds

693
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:42,000
gathering at the front entrance to the

694
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:42,720
mine

695
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:45,779
meanwhile uh the calendar arrives they

696
00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:48,120
entered through the back side of Vermont

697
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:51,779
and they take Route 44A and like I said

698
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,940
it's about two or three in the morning

699
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:56,159
they take these National Guard units

700
00:31:59,149 --> 00:31:57,659
they eventually relieve them and make

701
00:32:00,590 --> 00:31:59,159
them go home

702
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,600
again like I said they weren't

703
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:02,640
permanently on duty these guys they

704
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,960
lived in Ely they were just kind of

705
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:06,240
normal people that when they needed them

706
00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:08,520
they would kind of like reserves now I

707
00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:09,899
think what's kind of just show up when

708
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:11,480
they needed

709
00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:13,080
but

710
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:15,000
one thing I'd like to tell the audience

711
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,220
though is these guys had a good four

712
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:20,159
hours or so with the crap with no one

713
00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:21,179
around

714
00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:22,980
while this Conway was driving from Hill

715
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:25,020
Air Force Base so I got a lot of good

716
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:31,370
so the like the Convoy arrives from Hill

717
00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:34,020
Air Force Base they pick up this object

718
00:32:38,450 --> 00:32:36,360
using some of the cranes that are in the

719
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,460
mine they put it on the back of some

720
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:40,799
flatbed trucks and they drive out

721
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,899
through the back side of the mine yeah

722
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,159
and I thought that detail was

723
00:32:51,529 --> 00:32:47,760
interesting because in in the case of uh

724
00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:51,539
of the you know Pennsylvania Kecksburg

725
00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:52,679
crash

726
00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:55,320
hundreds of people apparently saw them

727
00:33:00,409 --> 00:32:58,260
come in and put a UFO that had crashed

728
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:00,419
on a flatbed and drive off and in this

729
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:02,460
case we have something similar happening

730
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:09,049
um yeah so they put that they put the

731
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,700
optic in the back of a flatbed truck

732
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,399
and this Convoy they just they just

733
00:33:18,610 --> 00:33:17,039
start uh they got really fast sorry I

734
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,620
was almost

735
00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:21,600
they start driving really fast on the

736
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,539
backside of the mine and the more direct

737
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:26,880
route to go to Hill Air Force Base or to

738
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,039
any military base would be this drive

739
00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:31,500
straight North or South they decided to

740
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:32,700
go west

741
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:34,980
past the duck water Indian reservation

742
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:37,559
and then they kind of went down and did

743
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,140
like a horseshoe shape

744
00:33:42,889 --> 00:33:41,760
um before I say where they brought it

745
00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,899
and all that I'll talk a little bit

746
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:44,519
about what the Witnesses in bath water

747
00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:46,620
saw

748
00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:48,360
um the Witnesses in Duck water at the

749
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,340
farming community and like I said by the

750
00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:52,080
time the Convoy started moving you

751
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:53,700
figure it's about four or five in the

752
00:33:57,889 --> 00:33:55,980
morning by the time they got to the my

753
00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:57,899
setup all the equipment picked the sod

754
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,120
picked up and started leaving it was

755
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:01,740
about four or five in the morning

756
00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:05,760
and these duck Waters duck water is a

757
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,899
farming community

758
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:09,119
so the farmers of course they wake up

759
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,859
early so they get all these people

760
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,960
waking up early some of them are driving

761
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,119
into Ely to go to work some of them are

762
00:34:18,909 --> 00:34:17,040
just like I said working on their farm

763
00:34:21,649 --> 00:34:18,919
and all of a sudden they see a military

764
00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:21,659
Envoy which is unusual for this part of

765
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:23,220
the state at that point especially at

766
00:34:27,770 --> 00:34:24,480
that point in time

767
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:27,780
they're tearing down this road and if a

768
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:29,580
woman said specifically her kids were

769
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,379
playing close to the road

770
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:34,560
and that she said that you could see the

771
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,659
guy that was I guess they had some kind

772
00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:38,879
of uh guns on top of this armored

773
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:40,859
vehicle she was saying and you can see

774
00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:42,480
that the guy was waving at him to get

775
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,580
out of the road kind of distance and she

776
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,320
says they were driving there were hidden

777
00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:48,720
people's mailboxes and things that were

778
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,060
close to the road because the vehicles I

779
00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:53,040
guess were oversized when they weren't

780
00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:55,320
on the fitting in the lane properly

781
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:58,200
and she says that that the kids with the

782
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,520
gun out of the road that she thinks they

783
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:01,859
would have gotten ran over yeah so they

784
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:03,720
were like hauling ass and smashing

785
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:04,800
people

786
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:09,960
because the vehicles were oversized for

787
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:12,180
the little road right big military

788
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,050
and things whatever was there she said

789
00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:22,800
they were either running into it or

790
00:35:27,950 --> 00:35:25,740
coming really close to running into it

791
00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:27,960
and um

792
00:35:33,770 --> 00:35:31,560
yeah so she says that this object passes

793
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:33,780
by her words for it I guess there are

794
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:35,460
some trucks

795
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:39,540
end of these first five or six trucks I

796
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,460
guess the object she didn't know what it

797
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:43,200
was she didn't even tell me it was a UFO

798
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:45,480
but she said there was an object under a

799
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,440
tarp

800
00:35:50,089 --> 00:35:48,240
and she said then there was some

801
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,099
vehicles with guns on them like machine

802
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:52,320
guns as her words some kind of armored

803
00:35:56,930 --> 00:35:53,940
vehicles of some kind we're driving in

804
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,940
the middle and then in the back there

805
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,280
was three more books but she said that

806
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:02,400
you could only tell that that the trucks

807
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,720
in the very middle were the one that had

808
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,520
to stop on and she said you could see

809
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:06,960
soldiers were sitting in some of the

810
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:08,040
other doctors

811
00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:09,900
we did have an excellent question and

812
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,460
I'm sure many people are wondering

813
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:13,440
Jeremy and that and that is did any of

814
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:15,180
the witnesses have a photo of The

815
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:22,430
have any drawings of the crap I have

816
00:36:28,370 --> 00:36:25,140
lots of eyewitness descriptions

817
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:28,380
let me see I know I

818
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:32,760
I sent you on that email that that we're

819
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:35,220
having issues with I have a picture of

820
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:38,040
like what geez of an artist's rendition

821
00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:39,599
of what they said to look like like a

822
00:36:42,349 --> 00:36:40,920
digital when someone made it yeah I

823
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:42,359
don't know if you can't just send me

824
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:43,859
whatever pictures were in that first

825
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:46,500
email again and again it's truth Seeker

826
00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:48,599
like a single truth Seeker show at

827
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,460
gmail.com a lot of people screw up and

828
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:52,980
put a second s in there and that might

829
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:55,020
cause I'll send you know what I'll do

830
00:36:59,810 --> 00:36:56,520
here's what I'll do

831
00:37:03,470 --> 00:36:59,820
uh I have your email address right here

832
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:03,480
and so what I'm going to do is uh the

833
00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:05,940
yahoo.com email address I'm going to

834
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,500
send you that I'm going to send you a

835
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,480
message right now and just say send

836
00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:11,940
those here and if you can great uh

837
00:37:15,609 --> 00:37:13,380
hopefully

838
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:15,619
uh

839
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,480
yeah and the subject line is UFO picks

840
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,680
because I'm sure people are going to

841
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:21,359
want to see these and I'm going to say

842
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,740
send them here

843
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:25,200
then you can just reply put the pictures

844
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:29,520
in and send it and I should get it yeah

845
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,000
so we've got a military Convoy that put

846
00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:35,040
this thing on a flatbed truck covered it

847
00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:37,320
in a tarp this again sounds very similar

848
00:37:43,069 --> 00:37:39,720
to the Kecksburg case which I thoroughly

849
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:43,079
investigated and even went to that place

850
00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:45,900
and try to visit the crash site did

851
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:48,900
visit the crash site pretty uh honestly

852
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:50,820
I was disappointed though there was much

853
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:52,680
there they have a big replica in the

854
00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,980
middle of the you know of the UFO and

855
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:57,900
you can talk to some people in the town

856
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,720
it's just a sleepy small town and that's

857
00:38:05,569 --> 00:38:03,119
like what they're famous for but in this

858
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:05,579
case you went there right and you talked

859
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,380
to all these Witnesses many of which

860
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,599
provided you with all these details of

861
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,720
the story of what you believe happened

862
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:13,920
oh yeah

863
00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:16,440
so what where did the UFO or excuse me

864
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,359
where did the yeah where did the UFO

865
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:20,400
that they put on the flatbed end up did

866
00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:21,960
you get any information about where that

867
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:23,640
Convoy might have went and did you

868
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,380
contact the military and ask for some

869
00:38:30,589 --> 00:38:27,839
kind of comment about this event and

870
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,599
where whatever crashed that they took it

871
00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:33,119
or did they deny it or or how did that

872
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:41,750
they originally they drove the object

873
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,560
passed back water then they kind of went

874
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:45,359
down and looked around and they said

875
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:46,980
they brought the object

876
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:50,400
to a run to a dirt Runway that had a

877
00:38:55,370 --> 00:38:52,380
couple hangers and a dirt Runway

878
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,380
doing my own research I found out that

879
00:39:00,050 --> 00:38:58,079
area 51 I personally think they brought

880
00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:00,060
it to Area 51

881
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,579
um because Area 51 at that point did

882
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,440
have dirt runways it wasn't all built up

883
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,480
like it is nowadays yeah it was just a

884
00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:09,599
Salt Flat it was the it was the the Salt

885
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:13,079
Lake bed flat yeah you know yeah

886
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:16,320
yeah so they they brought it to this to

887
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:17,760
this dirt Runway

888
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:19,980
and apparently when they got to the dirt

889
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:22,020
Runway there was a single military

890
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:24,060
bomber that put the whole object in so

891
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:26,040
it must not have been very big the

892
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:27,780
object I was told was about the size of

893
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:32,520
a like an SUV like a modern SUV

894
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,300
um

895
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:35,820
yeah so they got the object in this in

896
00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:37,859
this in these planes they drove the

897
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,400
planes to uh to the Hill Air Force Base

898
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:42,960
and from Hill Air Force Base they

899
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:44,280
brought it for bright Patterson Air

900
00:39:48,829 --> 00:39:46,500
Force Base but what are you basing that

901
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,839
on is this your is this your assessment

902
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,599
having interviewed people or or do you

903
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,060
this is just like your gut tells you or

904
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,060
because other stories similarly say that

905
00:40:02,410 --> 00:39:59,760
Wright Patterson is is the end of the

906
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:02,420
line for all UFO crash retrieval

907
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:06,000
technology or or craft

908
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,820
well I called Hill Air Force Base and I

909
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:10,560
put in a request I thought it was kind

910
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:11,880
of one of the craziest things I've ever

911
00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:13,440
done at that point I

912
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:15,540
feel Air Force Base I put in a request

913
00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:17,820
to speak to a historian

914
00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:20,700
and how this specific incident and they

915
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:21,900
actually called me back but I didn't

916
00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:22,980
think they would but they actually

917
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,030
to a historian his name was Robertson

918
00:40:32,329 --> 00:40:30,960
was the last Connecticut I don't even

919
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,339
know if that was his real name or not

920
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:34,800
but I'm pretty sure it was so he told me

921
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:35,760
that

922
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:40,800
UFO did crash or an airplane he said

923
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,420
what would have happened was

924
00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:44,400
if it was in that general part of the

925
00:40:48,829 --> 00:40:45,900
state it would have brought it to Hill

926
00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:48,839
Air Force Base and from Hill Air Force

927
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:50,040
Base he said they would have shipped it

928
00:40:53,390 --> 00:40:51,599
out to somewhere else well that makes

929
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:53,400
sense because that person that person

930
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:55,980
was aware of the military procedures and

931
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:58,020
normal operating what would happen if

932
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,940
like let's say a satellite crash where

933
00:41:04,609 --> 00:41:02,160
would they have taken it to then he

934
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:04,619
clearly knew what the procedure would be

935
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,440
right yeah because he didn't he of

936
00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:09,599
course they didn't talk about UFOs he

937
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,540
was facing it off of if they if the

938
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:14,640
airplane were to crash or something of

939
00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:16,140
value for the military would have

940
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:17,339
crashed he said that's how they would

941
00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:18,900
have handled it

942
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:19,560
um

943
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:21,300
he said that there's an official history

944
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,460
report of the history of Hill Air Force

945
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:25,680
Base and he was telling me like what the

946
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,940
procedures and things would have been

947
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:29,040
out of that report I guess from that

948
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:30,000
point

949
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:31,380
okay

950
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,440
so I talked to him he said if there was

951
00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:36,300
some kind of technology or if there was

952
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:39,180
some kind of a top secret anything he

953
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:40,740
said they probably would have sent it to

954
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:42,599
write Paterson for people

955
00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:45,180
but I don't think he took me serious at

956
00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:46,140
all of course because we're talking

957
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,880
about UFOs

958
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:48,960
um

959
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:51,960
and once again

960
00:41:57,410 --> 00:41:55,320
so I'm getting tongues I just

961
00:42:01,790 --> 00:41:57,420
I just okay we'll see if I don't get it

962
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:03,890
trying to stop you from telling us the

963
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,109
yeah so if you get it let me know not so

964
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:13,920
far I've refreshed a couple of times

965
00:42:17,569 --> 00:42:16,500
here I'll check my SPAM folder that's so

966
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:17,579
weird

967
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,960
27

968
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:24,240
he said it's two seven two four two

969
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,250
ones that were stationed there I talked

970
00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:33,540
to two ladies they said that their dad

971
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:35,400
drove two of those butts the ones I

972
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:36,540
mentioned that were driving down the

973
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200
road

974
00:42:41,569 --> 00:42:39,119
they said they were the one that made

975
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:44,810
'll do it both the dirt run

976
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,780
um

977
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,960
so I'm almost certain that they were

978
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:50,880
brought to Area 51 because if you look

979
00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:52,680
at the I sent you a map we'll see it

980
00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:54,420
like when the email goes through

981
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:58,260
but the trucks there is no other reason

982
00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:59,819
there's nothing out there I can think of

983
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:01,800
why you would leave healing the north

984
00:43:05,569 --> 00:43:03,780
eastern part of the state you would go

985
00:43:08,089 --> 00:43:05,579
to the center of the state

986
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,099
uh if you're heading that way

987
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:09,599
the only thing that's over that way is

988
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,940
if you go down south you can drive a

989
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:13,619
couple more hours like four more hours

990
00:43:18,829 --> 00:43:16,020
you'd get the Nellis Air Force Base

991
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:18,839
if you stop halfway again you're at Area

992
00:43:24,290 --> 00:43:21,960
51 but it wasn't top secret everything

993
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,300
like it is nowadays

994
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:26,160
um

995
00:43:30,530 --> 00:43:28,859
okay now I got for some reason your

996
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,540
messages are going straight into my

997
00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:32,640
trash and I don't know why that is but

998
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,200
uh I will

999
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:36,540
this must be the Men in Black one second

1000
00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:40,140
we are going to uh I will get them up

1001
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:49,550
no this is fine I I'm showing it looks

1002
00:44:03,290 --> 00:43:51,720
like a big Rod or cylinder that's the

1003
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:08,050
it was just a cylinder

1004
00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:11,569
did it land this way or like the typical

1005
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:14,520
cigar-shaped UFO on its side on that

1006
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:19,790
playing flat almost exactly flat is what

1007
00:44:24,109 --> 00:44:22,140
I was told okay but not like this image

1008
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,119
that you sent me like laying flat like

1009
00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:26,480
that okay yeah

1010
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,460
okay and we have the Ely map which shows

1011
00:44:36,770 --> 00:44:32,400
where the UFO crash allegedly took place

1012
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:36,780
and McGill McGill Nevada is 27 minutes

1013
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:39,240
away from roof Nevada

1014
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,410
no I understand but it still it gives us

1015
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:50,400
it gives us some uh and we have a plant

1016
00:45:00,829 --> 00:44:58,190
the first one that showed up on the

1017
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:00,839
scene that's he and you interviewed him

1018
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,900
and got these stories directly from him

1019
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,480
I talked to his dog because he was he

1020
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:07,980
had passed away by the time I talked to

1021
00:45:18,220 --> 00:45:13,970
and then we see Robinson District

1022
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,230
courtesy of the white pine Public Museum

1023
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:28,430
okay

1024
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:30,230
yeah I'm looking through the pictures

1025
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:32,240
that are in this email

1026
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,730
um yeah I don't think so not right at

1027
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:41,440
the moment

1028
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,490
as far as I can zoom in okay we'll go

1029
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:51,200
back one sure

1030
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:58,190
still back another

1031
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:00,349
okay that's it that's what you've got on

1032
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,349
one dump is on there it should be off on

1033
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:11,220
your left side of the screen and it's in

1034
00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:14,460
the future side of new Ruth okay

1035
00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:17,640
so P he would have been patrolling I

1036
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:19,140
don't know if you see the one with it

1037
00:46:24,410 --> 00:46:21,420
shows uh the purple line on it it's like

1038
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,849
okay

1039
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:27,540
Okay click that

1040
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:30,180
it's kind of my all right hold on one

1041
00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:36,109
I have the one with the red now you want

1042
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:38,180
one with a purple line on it

1043
00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:47,210
okay you got the one with the purple

1044
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,380
okay so the purple that's the route that

1045
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:50,880
feet would have been driving somewhere

1046
00:46:54,890 --> 00:46:53,700
in that area when that UFO came down

1047
00:46:57,530 --> 00:46:54,900
uh

1048
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:57,540
P of course said that it was eventually

1049
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,640
somewhere over by the Keystone belt so

1050
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,200
he must have been somewhere off to the

1051
00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:03,839
right side of the screen so that purple

1052
00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:05,880
when it came down

1053
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:07,800
um there's a tall mountain called rib

1054
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,140
Hill I circled it on there in red okay

1055
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:12,960
Red Hill yeah I see it here on the right

1056
00:47:18,349 --> 00:47:16,020
yeah yeah so Rim Hill would have blocked

1057
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:18,359
anyone on that side

1058
00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:21,300
from seeing that UFO patch the original

1059
00:47:25,790 --> 00:47:23,700
story say that crash near an old ghost

1060
00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:25,800
town called Bright House and I have the

1061
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,260
arrow pointing for its right now so the

1062
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:30,240
Original Stories

1063
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:32,280
the original investigator found he said

1064
00:47:36,109 --> 00:47:33,780
that he thinks it came down near right

1065
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,050
um if you go to

1066
00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:41,839
I have one that says Ward Mountain

1067
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:43,859
Campground there's like one with red and

1068
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:45,359
there's one without the red

1069
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:46,859
okay

1070
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,589
so

1071
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,119
I have witnesses that were when Boy

1072
00:48:01,309 --> 00:47:59,280
Scouts at the time and they were camping

1073
00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:01,319
out on board Mountain

1074
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,480
and uh

1075
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:05,040
the boys that were camping out on board

1076
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:07,020
mountains that they saw this object fly

1077
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:08,940
overhead and they start to go into the

1078
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:12,480
mine so I haven't found the crash site

1079
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,579
from this yet I have a general punch

1080
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,280
where it's at but I haven't found this

1081
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,440
so I know it's not in the right count

1082
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:20,880
because Red Hill would have been

1083
00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:22,260
blocking it and that's why it was

1084
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:24,300
circled in at the red arrow on the other

1085
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:27,180
picture so I seem to think if you look

1086
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,400
at the picture it has Red Hills

1087
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:31,200
in the way and you see like I have like

1088
00:48:36,170 --> 00:48:34,260
a red line pointing to a circle

1089
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,180
that circle is roughly where right Town

1090
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:38,400
used to be I think it went off to the

1091
00:48:43,069 --> 00:48:39,960
right

1092
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,079
closer to the Keystone Dot

1093
00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:45,599
okay

1094
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,370
because

1095
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:57,359
it really kills them

1096
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:00,420
I'm trying to find the name of the

1097
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:02,040
witness for you real quick yeah and

1098
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:04,140
there's a just so people are aware you

1099
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:05,880
know the area that this is in there's

1100
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,119
there's mines there's uh a reservation

1101
00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:11,280
there's campgrounds it's very remote

1102
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:14,339
sort of Wilderness Area right out in the

1103
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,960
middle of the desert oh yeah

1104
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,480
no one hardly lives up there ely's the

1105
00:49:22,730 --> 00:49:20,280
biggest town in the area and it only has

1106
00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:22,740
3 500 people

1107
00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:30,589
so

1108
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,480
this object comes down like I said I

1109
00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:35,760
seem to think

1110
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:38,860
if you click on

1111
00:49:50,809 --> 00:49:48,290
click on what click on Robinson mine

1112
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,819
curly 1960s it's the other one with the

1113
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:52,319
mine in black and white

1114
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:55,440
okay we'll try and find that one now now

1115
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,000
I'm looking at a wrecking crane it must

1116
00:50:02,450 --> 00:49:59,040
be further back

1117
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,460
this is the Ruth duck water

1118
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:05,040
this is the black and white with the

1119
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,089
I'm not sure what it is that you're

1120
00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:13,440
looking for to for me to show

1121
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:15,660
oh it's like a it shows like an aerial

1122
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:17,640
view of the Mind from the 1960s it's

1123
00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:19,619
just like the other one with the one

1124
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:21,060
that had like the red and the purple and

1125
00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:22,680
stuff on it but it doesn't have the

1126
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:25,079
lines on it from the six yeah I've

1127
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,569
Yes No Maybe

1128
00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:37,140
we should have did this in a slideshow

1129
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,060
because you know I'm no expert you're

1130
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,280
sending me a lot of random images and

1131
00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:43,440
it's tough to figure out which one you

1132
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:50,930
I have a black and white version of this

1133
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,980
says Robinson District courtesy of the

1134
00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:55,200
white pine Public Museum this other one

1135
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,960
is another overhead view

1136
00:51:11,329 --> 00:50:59,760
or black and white one that shows the

1137
00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:13,250
you could see how the mind developed

1138
00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:15,480
over like the next few years you can see

1139
00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:16,920
where it says old Bruce and where the

1140
00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:18,420
Keystone dump is

1141
00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:20,700
I believe that the crash site's over

1142
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,859
where that word new Ruth is it's got to

1143
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:25,200
be right there or on those Hills right

1144
00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:28,260
behind the new roof that is what I think

1145
00:51:32,569 --> 00:51:29,400
um

1146
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,579
they said they put the processing plant

1147
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:34,319
for the Mind ended up being put for

1148
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,660
right hand used to be that's why I put

1149
00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:38,880
that picture of the processing plant on

1150
00:51:42,049 --> 00:51:40,020
there

1151
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,059
okay it's Kimberly and right down were

1152
00:51:45,710 --> 00:51:43,440
ghost towns and they ended up getting

1153
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:45,720
demolished

1154
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,880
um

1155
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:49,920
I'm looking through my pictures real

1156
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:51,660
quick do you have the article I sent you

1157
00:52:06,049 --> 00:51:55,740
it says lightning and Healy 1953 yes and

1158
00:52:11,329 --> 00:52:08,390
I have the exact project but

1159
00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:11,339
this is the date January 16th it would

1160
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:17,150
um it describes a snowstorm

1161
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:19,680
bottle of snow storm a rainstorm it says

1162
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:21,059
all the power went out in the city

1163
00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:22,980
temporarily

1164
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:24,900
they don't know why

1165
00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:26,760
it's towards the bottom of the article I

1166
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:27,900
don't know if you can zoom in and if you

1167
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:30,900
can't zoom in it's it's a just do the

1168
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:33,780
best you can yeah I can't zoom on this

1169
00:52:37,370 --> 00:52:35,640
you sent me this in Gmail I'd have to

1170
00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:37,380
put it somewhere else and yeah I could

1171
00:52:41,329 --> 00:52:39,240
try I mean I can put all these together

1172
00:52:42,410 --> 00:52:41,339
in a package for the listeners after the

1173
00:52:45,049 --> 00:52:42,420
show

1174
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:45,059
yeah that's fine yeah if someone wants

1175
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:47,220
to read the article it'll be in a Google

1176
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,260
Drive Link all these images that we're

1177
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,119
sharing tonight we'll I'll put them in a

1178
00:52:59,210 --> 00:52:54,480
Google uh Drive Link and everybody can

1179
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:01,370
yes so the original article it talks

1180
00:53:06,290 --> 00:53:04,140
about there's a snowstorm it talks about

1181
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,300
there's a rainstorm and a snowstorm it

1182
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,680
says the power is temporarily knocked

1183
00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:09,119
out and they said that they saw

1184
00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,500
lightning

1185
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,079
supposedly strike the area and that's

1186
00:53:16,670 --> 00:53:15,119
what caused the power outage and of

1187
00:53:18,349 --> 00:53:16,680
course the power outage it says it's

1188
00:53:20,089 --> 00:53:18,359
right around 10 o'clock which is the

1189
00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:20,099
same time that the miners were saying

1190
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:22,920
that this thing came over again

1191
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:23,819
um

1192
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:26,819
I do have another stories about UFOs

1193
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:28,920
flying overs cities and the street

1194
00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:31,260
lights go out Kevin Randall actually

1195
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:34,140
about people in a UFO crash the Las

1196
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,920
Vegas UFO crash in the 1960s and she

1197
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:39,920
actually said that an object flew over

1198
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:43,440
uh Sydney and Utah I forget which one

1199
00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:45,300
exactly like I said I've read it before

1200
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,160
I have the article saved on my computer

1201
00:53:51,710 --> 00:53:49,680
but the UFO flies over and all the

1202
00:53:54,049 --> 00:53:51,720
street lights throughout the city I'm

1203
00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:54,059
pretty sure that's what happened in this

1204
00:53:59,210 --> 00:53:56,099
case I believe

1205
00:54:01,010 --> 00:53:59,220
oh that's bizarre

1206
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:01,020
yeah that's bizarre and there's often

1207
00:54:06,049 --> 00:54:03,420
for some reason there's often reports of

1208
00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:06,059
like people's cars stopping running all

1209
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:08,579
electric in a house going off when a UFO

1210
00:54:11,569 --> 00:54:09,720
is over it

1211
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,579
so I've often wondered if there's some

1212
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:13,520
kind of distortion Field

1213
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:17,520
Time space energy magnetic electrical

1214
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:20,760
who knows that causes these these

1215
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:23,099
weird electrical effects in the area

1216
00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:25,859
that the UFOs are spotted in or

1217
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,680
are flying in right that's weird that's

1218
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,480
a weird part of this whole phenomenon

1219
00:54:37,730 --> 00:54:33,599
and it happens a lot

1220
00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:40,910
it's that day or how do I know that it

1221
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:43,319
wasn't the original date

1222
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:45,960
I think that it's this January date only

1223
00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:48,180
because the original date was in August

1224
00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:51,059
of 1952.

1225
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:53,220
um of course this took place in a

1226
00:54:56,690 --> 00:54:55,140
snowstorm or a snowhead snow storm had

1227
00:54:58,190 --> 00:54:56,700
just gone through and it's not gonna

1228
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:58,200
there's not going to be no snowstorm in

1229
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,920
August so first thing it's not it's not

1230
00:55:06,010 --> 00:55:04,559
in August the miners were saying that

1231
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,020
they're saying it was after Christmas

1232
00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:08,400
and of course January's after Christmas

1233
00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:10,740
they described the snowstorm had flown

1234
00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:13,380
through and they were describing this in

1235
00:55:17,630 --> 00:55:14,940
the newspaper article

1236
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,640
of course they said that there was some

1237
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:19,440
strange lightning that had struck the

1238
00:55:22,609 --> 00:55:20,520
ground

1239
00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:22,619
I think that that specifically that's

1240
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,490
the address

1241
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:30,720
and the date's pretty close to what all

1242
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,240
of the miners would say

1243
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:35,280
well that is pretty interesting so you

1244
00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:37,859
sort of correctly identified the date

1245
00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:41,160
that this event occurred yes and the

1246
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:43,859
location that the event likely occurred

1247
00:55:49,630 --> 00:55:47,220
and spoken to all these Witnesses I'm

1248
00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:49,640
still I'm still interested in

1249
00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:52,500
where did it go and what happened so it

1250
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:55,260
sort of disappeared into the into The

1251
00:56:00,410 --> 00:55:57,780
Black Vault to Pardon upon John

1252
00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:00,420
Greenwald it disappeared Into The Black

1253
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:03,240
Vault of government secrecy after this

1254
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,319
you think

1255
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:06,240
for the most part I don't really know

1256
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:09,000
where it would once it I seem to think

1257
00:56:12,349 --> 00:56:10,380
it went to White Patterson because

1258
00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:12,359
that's what the Hill Air Force guy told

1259
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:14,220
me but I don't have 100 proof that it

1260
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:15,540
did that

1261
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,819
um well all four in technology like for

1262
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:20,400
example if a Russian satellite crashes

1263
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,160
or airplane is recovered somewhere in

1264
00:56:28,990 --> 00:56:26,160
the world or Chinese or any foreign

1265
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,000
adversary technology foreign technology

1266
00:56:34,609 --> 00:56:31,920
all of that would certainly go to

1267
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:34,619
Wright-Patterson Air Force who studies

1268
00:56:40,490 --> 00:56:36,420
foreign technology

1269
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:40,500
that's clearly established and you know

1270
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:43,500
it's interesting that Skeptics will use

1271
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,380
that to say it must have been just

1272
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:48,720
Chinese satellite or Russian satellite

1273
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:51,839
or some Russian adverse you know some

1274
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,900
adversaries technology that crashed and

1275
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:55,920
that's why they took it to

1276
00:57:02,329 --> 00:56:58,440
Wright-Patterson not because it was

1277
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:02,339
alien in origin right but yeah exactly I

1278
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:03,839
can't think of anything more foreign

1279
00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:08,809
is

1280
00:57:13,549 --> 00:57:11,460
yeah

1281
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:13,559
so this next story is kind of

1282
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:14,760
controversial

1283
00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:23,270
uh I'll tell the story but I gotta admit

1284
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:25,140
I'll get to the part that's kind of

1285
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,300
shaky here in a moment I was on a radio

1286
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:29,280
show called the talk with the [\h__\h] show

1287
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,319
in 2013. and on the show uh he had a

1288
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:36,720
co-host her last name was branwin

1289
00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:38,520
I think with Lynn Brandman was her name

1290
00:57:42,829 --> 00:57:40,260
I have to look through my notes I could

1291
00:57:45,049 --> 00:57:42,839
find it so

1292
00:57:46,790 --> 00:57:45,059
she actually called this after the show

1293
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:46,800
was over and she wanted me and my friend

1294
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:48,240
to go meet up with her at a local

1295
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:50,280
restaurant to go discuss what we had

1296
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,900
just talked about with this excuse me

1297
00:57:55,069 --> 00:57:54,000
face because the stories changed a

1298
00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:55,079
little bit over time because you know

1299
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:56,700
you talk to more witnesses you sort

1300
00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:58,559
through the ones that

1301
00:58:01,250 --> 00:58:00,180
the ones that are no good are the ones

1302
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:01,260
that you think

1303
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:04,200
the ones you think are lying sure you

1304
00:58:06,770 --> 00:58:05,880
end up meeting up with this lady at a

1305
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:06,780
restaurant

1306
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:10,079
and she tells us that in the 1990s

1307
00:58:15,049 --> 00:58:13,680
supposedly her dad handled pieces she

1308
00:58:20,089 --> 00:58:15,059
didn't say the whole crap she said

1309
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,099
pieces of this specific UFO at area 51.

1310
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:22,319
um she didn't give me any proof that he

1311
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,760
weren't there and because of course like

1312
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:25,440
I said I was young and dumb I just

1313
00:58:30,109 --> 00:58:27,240
started doing this

1314
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,119
I didn't ask for any kind of proof but

1315
00:58:35,329 --> 00:58:32,160
she was saying that supposedly her dad

1316
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:35,339
handled pieces of this back in the 1990s

1317
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:36,780
okay

1318
00:58:40,430 --> 00:58:37,859
so

1319
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:40,440
of course they said the UFO is picked up

1320
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,599
and and one gigantic piece because he

1321
00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:44,640
didn't say his blew up or anything so if

1322
00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:46,020
they had pieces of it I don't know if

1323
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,940
they would have taken it apart or maybe

1324
00:58:52,910 --> 00:58:50,160
there was pieces of it but they just

1325
00:58:55,069 --> 00:58:52,920
didn't see them the miners didn't see it

1326
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:55,079
I'm not 100 sure

1327
00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:56,220
but

1328
00:59:00,650 --> 00:58:58,740
she seems to she was telling me that she

1329
00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:00,660
believed that her dad touched it and she

1330
00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:02,040
said that her dad used to talk about it

1331
00:59:05,329 --> 00:59:03,000
all

1332
00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:05,339
but her dad was deceased she was telling

1333
00:59:08,450 --> 00:59:06,780
me so of course I could have talked to

1334
00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:08,460
him so I can't really

1335
00:59:12,289 --> 00:59:10,260
elaborate on it very much because

1336
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,299
there's not really any proof to show

1337
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,400
that she's telling the truth or not but

1338
00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:15,839
the story I thought was interesting and

1339
00:59:18,829 --> 00:59:17,160
worth mentioning

1340
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:18,839
okay

1341
00:59:24,289 --> 00:59:22,079
so uh did did she was she able to

1342
00:59:26,450 --> 00:59:24,299
produce some of those pieces or any

1343
00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:26,460
evidence or proof that

1344
00:59:29,579 --> 00:59:38,270
uh

1345
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:40,730
information like his old paperwork and

1346
00:59:44,750 --> 00:59:42,540
stuff but like I said I was only like 18

1347
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:44,760
or 19 years old whatever so I didn't

1348
00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:46,440
think about taking pictures of it or

1349
00:59:53,450 --> 00:59:51,109
um

1350
00:59:54,770 --> 00:59:53,460
yeah that's one of those Jeremy that's

1351
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:54,780
one of those that's one of those

1352
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:57,839
tantalizing maybe proof you know

1353
01:00:02,690 --> 01:00:00,240
because like how did this random woman

1354
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,700
know about this crash and then I guess

1355
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:04,319
she heard you on a podcast and then

1356
01:00:11,809 --> 01:00:08,880
called you to tell you that oh okay so

1357
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:11,819
so well that she's a UFO person and

1358
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:13,740
maybe that explains it but it's it's

1359
01:00:17,710 --> 01:00:15,480
still an interesting story I would want

1360
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:17,720
to verify her father's military

1361
01:00:23,329 --> 01:00:20,880
credentials and and uh try to find proof

1362
01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:23,339
that he was at Area 51 when she claims

1363
01:00:28,010 --> 01:00:26,339
that he uh handled pieces of the

1364
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,020
wreckage did she give you any indication

1365
01:00:31,849 --> 01:00:30,000
of what they were doing with it or what

1366
01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:31,859
her father she said something about

1367
01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:34,680
something about electricity or he was

1368
01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:36,540
some kind of like an electric engineer

1369
01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:38,819
of some kind I think she was saying that

1370
01:00:42,530 --> 01:00:40,619
there was some kind of wires going

1371
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:42,540
through the device and they're trying to

1372
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,940
figure out how the wires were but she

1373
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:46,799
kept talking about the wires

1374
01:01:04,130 --> 01:01:02,450
I was told by Willard McIntyre he was

1375
01:01:05,569 --> 01:01:04,140
the very first one like I said that

1376
01:01:08,089 --> 01:01:05,579
investigated this

1377
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:08,099
he says that there's a lady named Paris

1378
01:01:12,109 --> 01:01:10,260
Sonu s-o-t-u

1379
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:12,119
she grew up on the gulf water Indian

1380
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:13,380
Reservation

1381
01:01:18,289 --> 01:01:15,660
and she had told him back in the 70s

1382
01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:18,299
that this thing had happened I guess and

1383
01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:19,740
that's how he originally found out about

1384
01:01:24,049 --> 01:01:22,500
it supposedly the MPS are going door to

1385
01:01:26,809 --> 01:01:24,059
door in route Nevada and they're going

1386
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:26,819
door to door and got water and there's a

1387
01:01:31,010 --> 01:01:29,460
specific guy that she said that she

1388
01:01:35,390 --> 01:01:31,020
remembers who had a thorough handled

1389
01:01:37,789 --> 01:01:35,400
sidearm and this man was really

1390
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:37,799
he was really interested in finding out

1391
01:01:41,150 --> 01:01:39,839
what they saw when her kids were out in

1392
01:01:43,069 --> 01:01:41,160
the road

1393
01:01:45,230 --> 01:01:43,079
and she said this man came back to her

1394
01:01:47,089 --> 01:01:45,240
house about three different times and

1395
01:01:49,549 --> 01:01:47,099
she said that he wasn't holding his gun

1396
01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:49,559
in his hand but he I guess his pistol

1397
01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:51,839
was like in his holster in his pocket or

1398
01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:54,180
something and he had his hand on it she

1399
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:55,980
said this man

1400
01:02:01,970 --> 01:01:59,520
pardon me well that's okay

1401
01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:04,250
and they mentioned seeing the man with

1402
01:02:10,609 --> 01:02:08,630
Pro so there must have been

1403
01:02:12,829 --> 01:02:10,619
a Benny guys but it must have been a

1404
01:02:14,690 --> 01:02:12,839
very big group because multiple people

1405
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:14,700
reported seeing this man with a pearl

1406
01:02:18,289 --> 01:02:16,680
handled Scion

1407
01:02:20,089 --> 01:02:18,299
wouldn't that be a little odd for the

1408
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,099
time that somebody has a pearl handled

1409
01:02:32,750 --> 01:02:22,799
sidearm I don't know I don't know I

1410
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:35,510
sidearm did exist in the military back

1411
01:02:38,329 --> 01:02:36,780
then that would have had to have been

1412
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:38,339
privately owned but it wasn't something

1413
01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:40,559
that the military would have given that

1414
01:02:47,390 --> 01:02:43,500
is what he was saying

1415
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:47,400
okay and this person this mysterious

1416
01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:49,380
individual was with what government

1417
01:02:56,030 --> 01:02:52,980
agency did do we know he was a

1418
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:07,730
okay

1419
01:03:14,270 --> 01:03:10,089
well that's pretty interesting and when

1420
01:03:15,710 --> 01:03:14,280
so what was what was you talked to

1421
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:15,720
multiple people that were sort of

1422
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:17,880
interrogated about this event and what

1423
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:19,920
was the what were those conversations

1424
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:20,819
like

1425
01:03:25,970 --> 01:03:23,760
irrigated uh two of them were in roof

1426
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:25,980
and two of them were over on Duck water

1427
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:28,079
on the Indian Reservation well that's

1428
01:03:32,569 --> 01:03:29,520
pretty good if three or four people are

1429
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:32,579
saying that this interrogation sort of

1430
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:45,530
years later if they were

1431
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:47,510
so a lot of them couldn't tell me like

1432
01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:49,680
details about they some of them were

1433
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:51,000
pretty good and new names and stuff but

1434
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:52,559
not all of them

1435
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,359
some of them you can tell me like the

1436
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,400
general story but they would be old and

1437
01:04:00,650 --> 01:03:58,319
kind of forget

1438
01:04:02,510 --> 01:04:00,660
yeah yeah it's unfortunate and then

1439
01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:02,520
you're you're sort of I've heard that

1440
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:04,140
described from Roswell researchers

1441
01:04:07,789 --> 01:04:06,000
you're sort of Chasing The Undertaker

1442
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:07,799
trying to get to these Witnesses before

1443
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:09,540
they pass away

1444
01:04:14,329 --> 01:04:12,720
oh yeah but did you found that they were

1445
01:04:16,490 --> 01:04:14,339
all of them were willing to tell you

1446
01:04:18,349 --> 01:04:16,500
that they saw this thing the government

1447
01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:18,359
came in and interrogated them about it

1448
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:21,420
in the form of a mysterious uh Air Force

1449
01:04:26,510 --> 01:04:24,359
MP with a pearl handled sidearm that's a

1450
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:26,520
weird that's like from a movie this is

1451
01:04:29,390 --> 01:04:27,359
weird

1452
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:29,400
very interesting story I have two really

1453
01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:30,960
interesting stories I don't know if you

1454
01:04:34,190 --> 01:04:32,520
call these men in black or if you call

1455
01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:34,200
them military

1456
01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:36,660
um there's an individual named Claude

1457
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:37,980
house

1458
01:04:42,289 --> 01:04:40,559
uh he was on that story with Ed Pierce

1459
01:04:44,690 --> 01:04:42,299
and he talked about when he was a kid he

1460
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:44,700
remembers his parents talking about the

1461
01:04:55,069 --> 01:04:53,329
that he had called him and I was going

1462
01:04:57,170 --> 01:04:55,079
to set up an interview with him on like

1463
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:57,180
a Saturday or Sunday because I live in

1464
01:05:00,530 --> 01:04:58,799
Vegas right now so you know it's like a

1465
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,540
weekend ordeal to go up there and stay

1466
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:02,880
the weekend to talk to a lot of people

1467
01:05:05,809 --> 01:05:04,559
yeah a lot of them are still there

1468
01:05:07,309 --> 01:05:05,819
because their families live there for

1469
01:05:09,049 --> 01:05:07,319
like generations and just so everybody's

1470
01:05:10,849 --> 01:05:09,059
clear you've made like many trips to

1471
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:10,859
this area trying to get to the truth of

1472
01:05:16,430 --> 01:05:13,920
this thing right I mean exaggerating

1473
01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:16,440
yeah I gotta respect the fact that you

1474
01:05:20,030 --> 01:05:17,940
were willing to do that to try to get to

1475
01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:20,040
the truth of this story and obviously

1476
01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:22,440
you have you have more information about

1477
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,900
this specific crash than anybody else

1478
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:26,160
I've ever heard of that's why I was

1479
01:05:32,650 --> 01:05:28,319
anxious to talk to you

1480
01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:35,470
I'll save it for later

1481
01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:39,900
what he said so well first well just to

1482
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:41,579
remind the audience first he told the

1483
01:05:46,250 --> 01:05:43,619
audience that you would find no evidence

1484
01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:46,260
of this and it was a myth and here you

1485
01:05:51,289 --> 01:05:48,780
find he George Knapp was completely

1486
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:51,299
totally wrong then because you found

1487
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,240
original Witnesses you found children of

1488
01:05:57,950 --> 01:05:56,160
original Witnesses interviewed them all

1489
01:06:01,130 --> 01:05:57,960
you found people that were interrogated

1490
01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:01,140
by the members of the United States

1491
01:06:04,910 --> 01:06:03,720
government looking investigating this

1492
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,920
event

1493
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:07,680
you found people who saw the UFO being

1494
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,559
loaded onto a a flatbed and taken

1495
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:12,960
somewhere you found people that saw the

1496
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,900
military Convoy taking this UFO on a

1497
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,000
flatbed somewhere I'd call that a lot of

1498
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:19,680
evidence so it's obvious that George

1499
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:22,200
Knapp was totally wrong

1500
01:06:25,849 --> 01:06:24,299
yeah it's all because of my I have to

1501
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:25,859
thank my friend Steve with the radio

1502
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:27,720
show I have to thank my grandma about

1503
01:06:31,609 --> 01:06:30,119
people because they're the ones that and

1504
01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:31,619
the elite Times newspaper that's what

1505
01:06:38,690 --> 01:06:36,170
I think because the people up there

1506
01:06:41,089 --> 01:06:38,700
don't they don't really like Vegas in

1507
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:41,099
general because Vegas runs the state and

1508
01:06:45,170 --> 01:06:42,720
of course maybe this is a big city and

1509
01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:45,180
they're like rural people there's like a

1510
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:46,980
lot of cowboys and miners all around the

1511
01:06:50,450 --> 01:06:48,480
whole northern part of the state

1512
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:50,460
so I think the fact that George now

1513
01:06:55,069 --> 01:06:53,220
comes out there wanting to fill guns

1514
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:55,079
blazing with cameras and he wants to

1515
01:06:59,329 --> 01:06:57,660
take the story and leave town and never

1516
01:07:01,309 --> 01:06:59,339
talk to him again I think that's part of

1517
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,319
the big reason why these people don't

1518
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:03,839
never talk to George I think

1519
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,000
yeah interesting and then he try to

1520
01:07:10,490 --> 01:07:07,920
poach the story from you I heard or

1521
01:07:12,109 --> 01:07:10,500
something like that George wait just to

1522
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:12,119
be I just want to be very clear on this

1523
01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:15,119
point George Knapp is kind of slimy in

1524
01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:16,920
my opinion because first he told you

1525
01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:18,900
it's all a myth you won't find any

1526
01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:21,660
evidence but then once you did all the

1527
01:07:25,609 --> 01:07:23,460
work for him and found all this evidence

1528
01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:25,619
then he wanted to take the story from

1529
01:07:31,490 --> 01:07:27,780
you yeah right

1530
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,890
military and these men in black thing in

1531
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:35,280
just a minute but yeah the door snap

1532
01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:37,980
thing so at one point I was on the Art

1533
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,299
Bell show in 2013. and me and Art Bell

1534
01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:44,400
got into it it was actually really not a

1535
01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:45,539
very good interview it's probably one of

1536
01:07:49,609 --> 01:07:48,059
the worst interviews I ever seen but I

1537
01:07:52,130 --> 01:07:49,619
was just starting out doing interviews

1538
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:52,140
so again I was still learning and I was

1539
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:53,280
still trying to figure out how this

1540
01:07:56,809 --> 01:07:54,480
thing worked

1541
01:07:58,730 --> 01:07:56,819
but I did this interview with art and

1542
01:08:00,410 --> 01:07:58,740
art to make a long story short hung up

1543
01:08:03,470 --> 01:08:00,420
on me in the middle of the interview but

1544
01:08:08,089 --> 01:08:05,390
um I would say about

1545
01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:08,099
a week or two later I started getting

1546
01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:10,740
emails from fans saying that Art Bell

1547
01:08:15,890 --> 01:08:13,380
was giving the case to a real researcher

1548
01:08:17,570 --> 01:08:15,900
and they gave the case giving all the

1549
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:17,580
details I had told him to lend the

1550
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:24,650
so so wait first these UFO celebrities

1551
01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:26,279
told you there's no evidence of this

1552
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,500
then you go on our Bell and start giving

1553
01:08:32,749 --> 01:08:30,480
him details of all the evidence you

1554
01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:32,759
found and then he says he's giving the

1555
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:34,859
case to a real researcher and that real

1556
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:36,120
researcher

1557
01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:39,540
uh friends was Linda Moulton Howe who

1558
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,980
tried to post this story so you've got

1559
01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:43,199
two big UFO celebrities trying to poach

1560
01:08:47,950 --> 01:08:45,299
the story off of the guy who did all the

1561
01:08:51,410 --> 01:08:47,960
work on the story great

1562
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,420
so for one moment too Jeremy one moment

1563
01:08:55,849 --> 01:08:54,000
we just want to thank uh we have Channel

1564
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:55,859
memberships here that everybody can

1565
01:08:59,630 --> 01:08:57,600
support the show and become a member of

1566
01:09:01,490 --> 01:08:59,640
our Channel and we like to shout them

1567
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:01,500
out and thank them when they do that and

1568
01:09:06,169 --> 01:09:03,660
tonight cynical Observer became a new

1569
01:09:07,550 --> 01:09:06,179
channel member and YouTube members so we

1570
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:07,560
just want to shout them out and thank

1571
01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:10,560
him for his support and I'm sorry on

1572
01:09:14,829 --> 01:09:12,600
with this now it's getting good we're

1573
01:09:19,070 --> 01:09:14,839
getting to the good stuff you know

1574
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:19,080
go ahead Jeremy yeah so Linda Moulton

1575
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,460
Howe

1576
01:09:25,329 --> 01:09:23,759
uh she actually wouldn't write me back I

1577
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:25,339
was told that she was actually

1578
01:09:30,829 --> 01:09:28,500
researching this page so

1579
01:09:32,150 --> 01:09:30,839
I end up emailing some of the people I

1580
01:09:33,709 --> 01:09:32,160
write some of the people but even though

1581
01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:33,719
it's kind of I guess I call it hate mail

1582
01:09:37,070 --> 01:09:35,339
or they're like dashing on me because I

1583
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:37,080
pissed that part though whatever

1584
01:09:40,669 --> 01:09:38,460
so

1585
01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:40,679
I'm trying not to fight with them and

1586
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:42,420
they start telling me Oh well she says

1587
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:44,460
that this UFO was buried out in the

1588
01:09:47,329 --> 01:09:45,600
desert and they just started describing

1589
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,339
stuff has nothing to do with what I'm

1590
01:09:51,470 --> 01:09:49,440
talking about everybody like what I was

1591
01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:51,480
just saying and I was thinking what are

1592
01:09:55,550 --> 01:09:53,580
you talking about lady and then they

1593
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:55,560
start saying oh well she's using the

1594
01:09:59,810 --> 01:09:58,020
witnesses like where I said that it

1595
01:10:02,450 --> 01:09:59,820
happened in a copper mine and that there

1596
01:10:05,209 --> 01:10:02,460
was a Convoy but she started saying that

1597
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,219
it was some kind of a convoy out in

1598
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:07,679
Baker Nevada which is 100 miles away

1599
01:10:14,030 --> 01:10:12,000
almost like nowhere near kiwi and she

1600
01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:14,040
starts posting this story saying a giant

1601
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,460
UFO crash it was 160 feet long and they

1602
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,800
had a massive amount of soldiers with

1603
01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:22,080
shovels not power not like a tractors or

1604
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,420
anything like shovel hand shovels dug

1605
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:26,400
this big hole around this object and

1606
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,020
buried it Underground

1607
01:10:33,950 --> 01:10:31,440
and she puts an ex she literally told

1608
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:33,960
everyone I attend this spot right here I

1609
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:36,480
know it's in this spot

1610
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:39,060
and it's about a hundred miles away from

1611
01:10:44,209 --> 01:10:42,420
the thing I just described yeah so Linda

1612
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,219
Mo inhale just to be clear she takes the

1613
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:46,800
she takes the idea of the story or the

1614
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:49,020
Genesis of the story and the details of

1615
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:51,540
the witnesses from you and then she

1616
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:54,000
invents a whole new story I remember

1617
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:56,880
this she told this incredible story of

1618
01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:58,860
all these military men with shovels that

1619
01:11:06,130 --> 01:11:01,140
basically dug a huge hole and buried

1620
01:11:11,810 --> 01:11:09,470
wow can you imagine how many men have to

1621
01:11:14,930 --> 01:11:11,820
take with shovels to do all this before

1622
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:14,940
people find out about it

1623
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:18,120
yeah that's crazy it's crazy how she

1624
01:11:28,729 --> 01:11:26,870
because Houston's just downright

1625
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:28,739
pathetic I have no other words but it's

1626
01:11:32,510 --> 01:11:31,260
just pathetic oh no you got a special on

1627
01:11:34,610 --> 01:11:32,520
that then what happened with George

1628
01:11:36,590 --> 01:11:34,620
Knapp with the story after you got all

1629
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:36,600
the after you got all the evidence that

1630
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:38,580
he said didn't exist what what happened

1631
01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:51,530
at that point I was like I'm doing this

1632
01:11:55,850 --> 01:11:53,400
for five years spending thousands of

1633
01:11:57,530 --> 01:11:55,860
dollars going back and forth from Ely

1634
01:11:59,390 --> 01:11:57,540
talking to all these people just to give

1635
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:59,400
you the story I was like no

1636
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:01,199
but then I didn't really hear from him

1637
01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:02,760
for about

1638
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,860
six months to a year

1639
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,840
and at this point my grandma was still

1640
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:09,360
living over in Eureka Nevada

1641
01:12:12,890 --> 01:12:10,080
um

1642
01:12:15,229 --> 01:12:12,900
I guess Elite tourism according to my

1643
01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:15,239
Grandma had contacted her

1644
01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:17,940
and said George Knapp was saying if my

1645
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:21,719
if if George could do the Ely story and

1646
01:12:25,790 --> 01:12:24,000
put it on if and put put it on his

1647
01:12:28,910 --> 01:12:25,800
radial in that bridge put on his news

1648
01:12:31,610 --> 01:12:28,920
story in Las Vegas that

1649
01:12:33,169 --> 01:12:31,620
the Ely tourism was guaranteed some kind

1650
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:33,179
of a shout out or they would do a news

1651
01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:35,699
story about their some kind of event

1652
01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:37,080
they had coming on for I think it was

1653
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:38,340
Veterans Day

1654
01:12:43,729 --> 01:12:42,000
wow so just to be clear so George not

1655
01:12:45,709 --> 01:12:43,739
trying to George and I have tried to

1656
01:12:52,270 --> 01:12:45,719
lean on your grandmother to get you to

1657
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:56,450
to ask me to convince me to film this

1658
01:13:01,610 --> 01:12:59,880
story wow tourism I guess because of the

1659
01:13:03,649 --> 01:13:01,620
small town the people from Healy tourism

1660
01:13:05,649 --> 01:13:03,659
are trying to contact my grandma

1661
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:05,659
I thought it was but that like this is

1662
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:07,860
yeah and I've been saying I've been

1663
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:09,659
saying for a long time that these UFO

1664
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:11,820
celebrities will do anything to get a

1665
01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:13,860
story that they could sell and make

1666
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,140
money from and here we have a new

1667
01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:18,480
example that even I think is a little

1668
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:19,980
too much calling up people's

1669
01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:21,960
grandmothers trying to get the Grandmom

1670
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:23,820
to lean on the person with all the

1671
01:13:28,490 --> 01:13:25,560
evidence so that you could sell the

1672
01:13:30,110 --> 01:13:28,500
story and make money amazing

1673
01:13:31,729 --> 01:13:30,120
and what I was thinking you know when he

1674
01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:31,739
when when he was contacting me I was

1675
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:33,780
thinking Pat myself on the back but like

1676
01:13:38,930 --> 01:13:36,960
Mike bro I got he has like you had the

1677
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:38,940
chance to help me but he chose not to do

1678
01:13:52,130 --> 01:13:46,370
yeah that's pretty pretty out there did

1679
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:53,870
it happened today actually I'll explain

1680
01:13:58,130 --> 01:13:56,040
that later on that spot that might be

1681
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,140
even better than

1682
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:01,199
but um but as far as the elite crashed

1683
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,300
like did you or have you you've been

1684
01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:05,280
investigating this for a long time and

1685
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:07,380
and by your own admission you've been

1686
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,060
there 50 times you've interviewed all

1687
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:11,520
these Witnesses you've spent your own

1688
01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:14,400
money you haven't you know cashed in on

1689
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,400
this story and try to sell it really or

1690
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,679
just intensely interested in getting to

1691
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:22,800
the truth you know like I guess my

1692
01:14:27,050 --> 01:14:24,719
question is what kind of conclusions

1693
01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:27,060
have you drawn from this event do you

1694
01:14:31,729 --> 01:14:28,500
really think this was an alien

1695
01:14:33,709 --> 01:14:31,739
spacecraft was it a Russian satellite do

1696
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:33,719
we not you just haven't reached that

1697
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:36,239
determination or what do you think it

1698
01:14:41,090 --> 01:14:36,960
was

1699
01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:41,100
related like from another world I guess

1700
01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:43,620
would be the way like alien related I do

1701
01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:46,260
think so but I can see why someone would

1702
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,060
think that it might not be because no

1703
01:14:53,209 --> 01:14:49,920
one has ever told me that there was

1704
01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:53,219
alien bodies at this 1950s track site

1705
01:14:58,490 --> 01:14:56,460
and no one has ever told me that there

1706
01:14:59,689 --> 01:14:58,500
was flaming wreckage or there was like

1707
01:15:01,729 --> 01:14:59,699
Roswell or they said there was record

1708
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:01,739
there no one told me anything like that

1709
01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:04,260
about this this object whatever it was

1710
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:06,179
kind of just hit the ground and just

1711
01:15:10,189 --> 01:15:08,100
stayed there not to say that there might

1712
01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:10,199
have been some aliens inside the crowd

1713
01:15:14,510 --> 01:15:12,840
that I don't know about but as far as I

1714
01:15:16,010 --> 01:15:14,520
know no one that was there that night

1715
01:15:17,870 --> 01:15:16,020
supported and seeing at least for

1716
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:17,880
civilians that I talked

1717
01:15:22,669 --> 01:15:19,920
no one has ever told me about alien

1718
01:15:24,830 --> 01:15:22,679
bodies so when they say 16 in bodies I

1719
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:24,840
have no idea where they got them yeah

1720
01:15:29,689 --> 01:15:26,940
that's the legend the legend was this

1721
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:29,699
thing crashed in Ely and 16 alien bodies

1722
01:15:33,770 --> 01:15:30,900
were

1723
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:33,780
yeah somehow ejected from the craft or

1724
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:35,820
they recovered these 16 alien bodies

1725
01:15:39,950 --> 01:15:37,380
I've heard that story many many times

1726
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,960
but it's usually the less incredible

1727
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:42,000
people who haven't actually investigated

1728
01:15:46,130 --> 01:15:44,040
anything who are just repeating things

1729
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:46,140
they've heard in your case you've

1730
01:15:50,330 --> 01:15:47,760
actually interviewed all of the original

1731
01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:50,340
witnesses that you could the people who

1732
01:15:54,590 --> 01:15:52,260
were integ interrogated by the

1733
01:15:58,130 --> 01:15:54,600
government after the event the people

1734
01:16:01,010 --> 01:15:58,140
who saw the uh flat beds and the the

1735
01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:01,020
truck Convoy hightailing it out of there

1736
01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:03,239
with this thing under a tarp on a

1737
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:06,360
flatbed that you know I I think I would

1738
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,940
believe you about what actually may have

1739
01:16:12,649 --> 01:16:10,560
happened there before I believe somebody

1740
01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:12,659
just repeating stories of alien bodies

1741
01:16:16,750 --> 01:16:15,540
with no references and didn't do the

1742
01:16:18,649 --> 01:16:16,760
work right

1743
01:16:20,090 --> 01:16:18,659
exactly

1744
01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:20,100
well

1745
01:16:25,250 --> 01:16:22,620
so going back a little bit I started

1746
01:16:28,669 --> 01:16:25,260
mentioning that that those MPS are going

1747
01:16:31,070 --> 01:16:28,679
door to door uh so that guy Claude house

1748
01:16:34,490 --> 01:16:31,080
he had done this story with Ed Pierce

1749
01:16:35,870 --> 01:16:34,500
from aolo over in Reno uh like I said I

1750
01:16:37,250 --> 01:16:35,880
told him I would talk to him on a

1751
01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:37,260
Saturday or a Sunday I don't remember

1752
01:16:40,729 --> 01:16:39,540
when I wanted to do I was gonna say the

1753
01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:40,739
weekend and short version I was going to

1754
01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:42,120
go to Ely for the weekend and I was

1755
01:16:46,669 --> 01:16:43,860
going to interview him as far as part of

1756
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:46,679
the part of the deal so

1757
01:16:51,530 --> 01:16:48,840
my friend Nick was the one that used to

1758
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:51,540
do the UFOs with me and he was the kid

1759
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,040
mainly if I need someone to go with me

1760
01:16:57,530 --> 01:16:54,719
he's like your writer diaphragm that'll

1761
01:16:59,169 --> 01:16:57,540
go with you to go do whatever Ah that's

1762
01:17:01,250 --> 01:16:59,179
a good friend

1763
01:17:03,229 --> 01:17:01,260
he's he's your writer about your friend

1764
01:17:04,729 --> 01:17:03,239
that'll go be your partner if you need

1765
01:17:07,149 --> 01:17:04,739
some help with them

1766
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:07,159
so

1767
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:11,460
I called him I would say

1768
01:17:15,050 --> 01:17:13,199
I talked to him at the beginning of the

1769
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:15,060
week it would be a Monday Monday or

1770
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:17,280
Tuesday and he was fine doing this

1771
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:18,560
interview

1772
01:17:25,070 --> 01:17:22,800
and she was talking to me about doing

1773
01:17:28,010 --> 01:17:25,080
the interview and all this stuff and

1774
01:17:30,050 --> 01:17:28,020
then suddenly he goes wait what are you

1775
01:17:31,550 --> 01:17:30,060
asking about I said well I saw yeah I

1776
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:31,560
started explaining again well I saw you

1777
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:33,780
on this news story and I was wondering

1778
01:17:37,010 --> 01:17:36,060
if you had additional information that

1779
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:37,020
man

1780
01:17:42,590 --> 01:17:40,320
broke down crying hysterically crying

1781
01:17:44,209 --> 01:17:42,600
and he starts freaking out like trantic

1782
01:17:46,850 --> 01:17:44,219
and he says they told me not to talk

1783
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,860
about it they were here and they told me

1784
01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,719
that if I talked about it they were

1785
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,060
going to hurt me and that guy Mr that

1786
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:52,860
guy from that video freaked out on me

1787
01:17:57,410 --> 01:17:55,560
and I never heard from him again

1788
01:17:58,910 --> 01:17:57,420
I don't know what that's he kept saying

1789
01:18:00,830 --> 01:17:58,920
hey I don't know if he's paying saying

1790
01:18:03,649 --> 01:18:00,840
the government or the military

1791
01:18:06,050 --> 01:18:03,659
uh that the guy really was he's fine the

1792
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:06,060
person even if I talked to him and then

1793
01:18:08,990 --> 01:18:07,560
he kind of double took like I said and

1794
01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:09,000
goes wait what are you talking about and

1795
01:18:14,750 --> 01:18:11,940
then he started crying and freaking out

1796
01:18:16,370 --> 01:18:14,760
so wow that's interesting so maybe he

1797
01:18:18,410 --> 01:18:16,380
got maybe they got to him and he got

1798
01:18:20,209 --> 01:18:18,420
intimidated by the so-called Men In

1799
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:20,219
Black or whoever is in charge of

1800
01:18:40,669 --> 01:18:37,970
but he said someone confronted him and

1801
01:18:42,830 --> 01:18:40,679
scared the crap out of therapy

1802
01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:42,840
and one thing I'd like to note though

1803
01:18:48,410 --> 01:18:45,420
his dad also is named quad house and his

1804
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:48,420
dad was named in the newspaper a few

1805
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:51,060
days after that storm particle I sent

1806
01:18:56,090 --> 01:18:53,760
you there's a random UFO sighting in

1807
01:18:58,130 --> 01:18:56,100
Alien his dad was named in it so it

1808
01:18:59,689 --> 01:18:58,140
really did live there at the time his

1809
01:19:01,729 --> 01:18:59,699
family's mentioned in that he was a

1810
01:19:04,610 --> 01:19:01,739
newspaper article wow

1811
01:19:06,590 --> 01:19:04,620
so so you can establish he lived there

1812
01:19:08,510 --> 01:19:06,600
at the time you he he's been an

1813
01:19:11,149 --> 01:19:08,520
established witness of this event and

1814
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,159
now you can establish that he broke down

1815
01:19:15,229 --> 01:19:12,960
crying saying he didn't want to talk

1816
01:19:18,590 --> 01:19:15,239
about this because somebody threatened

1817
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,600
him that's crazy yes that's crazy part

1818
01:19:22,610 --> 01:19:20,880
of this whole thing yeah he said that

1819
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:22,620
was recent though that's what was weird

1820
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:24,600
about it

1821
01:19:30,649 --> 01:19:28,320
so the next one

1822
01:19:32,930 --> 01:19:30,659
um I was gonna call one of the Rosa beer

1823
01:19:36,830 --> 01:19:32,940
fam and they have a ranch in the area

1824
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:36,840
near Preston cust in Nevada so

1825
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,520
I was supposed to meet with the woman

1826
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,280
and she had known she had known that her

1827
01:19:44,689 --> 01:19:43,199
I think it was her husband her husband

1828
01:19:46,610 --> 01:19:44,699
it was in fact

1829
01:19:49,250 --> 01:19:46,620
must have been working at the mine that

1830
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:49,260
night when it's being cracked

1831
01:19:52,910 --> 01:19:50,640
well

1832
01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:52,920
I had talked to her at the beginning of

1833
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,360
the week like I said about him I always

1834
01:19:57,709 --> 01:19:56,159
but most of the time I'll do a Friday

1835
01:19:59,390 --> 01:19:57,719
through Monday or like a Thursday

1836
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,400
through Sunday

1837
01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:01,440
so I was I called this woman at the

1838
01:20:03,530 --> 01:20:02,580
beginning of the week set up this

1839
01:20:06,110 --> 01:20:03,540
interview

1840
01:20:08,030 --> 01:20:06,120
to talk about her husband and she was

1841
01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:08,040
fine doing this interview

1842
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:11,159
and I would say around Thursday

1843
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:13,199
Wednesday Thursday I got a call from the

1844
01:20:16,270 --> 01:20:14,940
woman thanking me for doing an interview

1845
01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:16,280
with her

1846
01:20:21,169 --> 01:20:19,380
wow that's bizarre so somebody got to

1847
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:21,179
her first and interviewed her

1848
01:20:25,250 --> 01:20:23,460
yeah she says me and Nick had just left

1849
01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:25,260
her house and we had just talked to her

1850
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:26,520
and interviewed her

1851
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,440
and I told her like well we didn't we

1852
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:30,000
didn't we didn't go up there we're still

1853
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,440
in Las Vegas

1854
01:20:35,630 --> 01:20:33,360
and it scared the crap out of her she

1855
01:20:37,010 --> 01:20:35,640
she hung up on me I never heard from her

1856
01:20:39,649 --> 01:20:37,020
again she did the same thing the other

1857
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,659
guy did so she started freaking out it's

1858
01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:41,280
like crying and saying she didn't know

1859
01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:43,260
who came to her house and said to leave

1860
01:20:46,430 --> 01:20:44,760
her alone and all this stuff so I don't

1861
01:20:48,590 --> 01:20:46,440
know who came to her house

1862
01:20:51,050 --> 01:20:48,600
but again that's weird circumstances and

1863
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,060
if over it was pretending to be me and

1864
01:20:55,370 --> 01:20:52,560
my friend Nick

1865
01:21:04,729 --> 01:20:55,380
so that's bizarre

1866
01:21:10,970 --> 01:21:07,669
100 sure what happened but she was

1867
01:21:16,910 --> 01:21:14,390
yeah interesting and so you know we

1868
01:21:18,770 --> 01:21:16,920
talked about what your conclusions are

1869
01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:18,780
you you believe that it was some kind of

1870
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,820
alien spacecraft

1871
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,560
you know I think it was you don't think

1872
01:21:25,970 --> 01:21:24,239
it could have been like a V2 that

1873
01:21:28,490 --> 01:21:25,980
crashed there because that could also

1874
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:28,500
explain all the secrecy or

1875
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,820
well or some other top secret human made

1876
01:21:38,030 --> 01:21:35,040
I'm sorry I mean you know

1877
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:38,040
I I I get what I understand your

1878
01:21:43,790 --> 01:21:40,560
perspective but for me I don't like

1879
01:21:45,890 --> 01:21:43,800
going straight to aliens you know this

1880
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:45,900
could have been a satellite it could

1881
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:48,900
have been a V2 it could have been some

1882
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:51,600
other early drone tests or technology

1883
01:22:01,370 --> 01:21:55,260
early stealth tests or technology being

1884
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:04,250
yeah so the witness testimonies May uh

1885
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,679
May differ from or may make that not a

1886
01:22:12,590 --> 01:22:10,080
really good possibility so I guess

1887
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:12,600
yeah I understand why why you think what

1888
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:14,280
you think because that that's definitely

1889
01:22:27,770 --> 01:22:25,910
that we're molten I I I seem to think of

1890
01:22:30,110 --> 01:22:27,780
some kind of molten metal of some kind I

1891
01:22:32,510 --> 01:22:30,120
don't know if it was a reaction to being

1892
01:22:34,370 --> 01:22:32,520
in the snow I don't know if it was

1893
01:22:37,130 --> 01:22:34,380
I don't know what bit of what kind of

1894
01:22:39,229 --> 01:22:37,140
that dripping liquid was that's what I

1895
01:22:40,729 --> 01:22:39,239
don't that's what I kind of wonder

1896
01:22:42,830 --> 01:22:40,739
what do you think that will end Steve

1897
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:42,840
I'd like to see your opinion I I don't

1898
01:22:46,669 --> 01:22:44,880
know well I mean if if you're talking

1899
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:46,679
about if you're talking about an

1900
01:22:53,630 --> 01:22:49,440
airplane crash with jet fuel that can

1901
01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:53,640
melt metal and appear that way maybe or

1902
01:22:56,570 --> 01:22:55,320
there could be some sort of fire on the

1903
01:22:58,610 --> 01:22:56,580
inside of the craft I mean there's a

1904
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:58,620
million possibilities but it is

1905
01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:01,440
compelling all all of this information

1906
01:23:06,590 --> 01:23:04,140
taken together is compelling but I'm

1907
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:06,600
cautious to connect all the dots you

1908
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,400
know because it's easy to do that right

1909
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:10,080
to say well the government intimidate

1910
01:23:13,310 --> 01:23:11,820
the witnesses must be aliens well

1911
01:23:15,649 --> 01:23:13,320
something crashed we don't know what it

1912
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,659
is we must have been aliens it was

1913
01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:17,520
silent we don't know that they had

1914
01:23:21,649 --> 01:23:19,500
silent craft and you know all of these

1915
01:23:24,050 --> 01:23:21,659
things to connect the dots I'd like I I

1916
01:23:27,709 --> 01:23:24,060
would love nothing more than it to be an

1917
01:23:30,729 --> 01:23:27,719
alien spacecraft but uh you know it's

1918
01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:30,739
maybe a little bit of a bridge too far

1919
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:34,260
but there's that people interviewing

1920
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:36,719
people before you did and and sort of

1921
01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:40,440
trying to manipulate the the situation

1922
01:23:45,649 --> 01:23:42,840
and the release of the information about

1923
01:23:48,410 --> 01:23:45,659
the crash is very compelling to me but

1924
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:48,420
absence of evidence is not really I try

1925
01:23:53,330 --> 01:23:50,760
to not make absence of evidence evidence

1926
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:53,340
you know or connect those docs try to be

1927
01:23:57,649 --> 01:23:56,159
a little cautious but I understand how

1928
01:23:59,630 --> 01:23:57,659
people could draw those conclusions

1929
01:24:02,209 --> 01:23:59,640
based on all this stuff we're hearing

1930
01:24:04,610 --> 01:24:02,219
it's like a great compelling story you

1931
01:24:05,870 --> 01:24:04,620
know it sounds like a spy novel or

1932
01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:05,880
something

1933
01:24:11,930 --> 01:24:07,380
oh yeah

1934
01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:11,940
yeah so the next part of the story

1935
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:13,260
um I'll go on to the next part of the

1936
01:24:19,490 --> 01:24:16,080
story so that's the majority of

1937
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,500
the basic story of the 1953 UFO crash

1938
01:24:22,130 --> 01:24:20,880
over in this month

1939
01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:22,140
okay

1940
01:24:26,030 --> 01:24:23,880
so this next thing is going to sound

1941
01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:26,040
totally irrelevant to your listeners but

1942
01:24:31,970 --> 01:24:28,679
it'll come full circle that problem

1943
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:31,980
so the next thing involves us

1944
01:24:36,110 --> 01:24:34,140
probably about an Air Force and that's

1945
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:36,120
the joint project called object hybrid

1946
01:24:41,930 --> 01:24:39,199
project high range began

1947
01:24:43,729 --> 01:24:41,940
plane was already made in their find a

1948
01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:43,739
replacement for the YouTube so they

1949
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:45,420
started designing this airplane called

1950
01:24:50,209 --> 01:24:48,719
the X-15 rocket plane yeah we talked

1951
01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:50,219
about that I'm very well aware of the

1952
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:52,140
X-15 rocket plane

1953
01:24:56,270 --> 01:24:54,300
and I'll uh I'll show some images of

1954
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:56,280
that in a moment

1955
01:25:00,290 --> 01:24:59,040
yeah so the the how how fast the

1956
01:25:01,729 --> 01:25:00,300
airplane goes and everything it's kind

1957
01:25:03,169 --> 01:25:01,739
of Irrelevant for the story we're going

1958
01:25:04,370 --> 01:25:03,179
to talk about but I'll just give like a

1959
01:25:05,570 --> 01:25:04,380
basic description for the for the for

1960
01:25:07,850 --> 01:25:05,580
the viewers

1961
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:07,860
basically this is an airplane it's a

1962
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,260
test airplane it would get dropped out

1963
01:25:15,410 --> 01:25:13,199
of a specially designed B-52 bomber and

1964
01:25:17,450 --> 01:25:15,420
this airplane was basically a rocket

1965
01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:17,460
like a pilot literally sitting on top of

1966
01:25:21,890 --> 01:25:19,320
a rocket if it's flying the lower

1967
01:25:23,630 --> 01:25:21,900
atmosphere and then if it kind of Glide

1968
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:23,640
and land on a regular Runway like a

1969
01:25:28,910 --> 01:25:26,880
regular airplane would but this thing

1970
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:28,920
set records at the time for breaking

1971
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:31,440
speed barriers and speed records

1972
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:32,580
so

1973
01:25:38,209 --> 01:25:34,560
in order to test this airplane it would

1974
01:25:42,830 --> 01:25:40,550
Ogden where Hill Air Force bases in Utah

1975
01:25:44,270 --> 01:25:42,840
and then it would come back down so

1976
01:25:46,370 --> 01:25:44,280
basically it's flying from Southern

1977
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:46,380
California to Northern Utah

1978
01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:49,199
and they built facilities to track this

1979
01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:51,179
airplane they built a radar tracking

1980
01:25:55,850 --> 01:25:53,820
facility in Edwards Air Force Base one

1981
01:25:58,129 --> 01:25:55,860
in baby Nevada and one on top of

1982
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:58,139
Kimberly mountain and Ealing about

1983
01:26:09,709 --> 01:26:00,239
so construction of these began in the

1984
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:12,950
at the Ely station on Kimberly Mountain

1985
01:26:18,050 --> 01:26:15,600
so the facility was run by NASA in the

1986
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:18,060
United States Air Force until 1979 I

1987
01:26:20,930 --> 01:26:19,260
believe it was

1988
01:26:22,729 --> 01:26:20,940
that's when the Air Force started

1989
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:22,739
running it by themselves

1990
01:26:27,530 --> 01:26:25,920
the facility officially closed in 1992.

1991
01:26:31,250 --> 01:26:27,540
so

1992
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:31,260
this radar was an early radar and it had

1993
01:26:36,590 --> 01:26:34,560
a typical range of 25 miles in order to

1994
01:26:38,510 --> 01:26:36,600
make the get double the range to 50

1995
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,520
miles you'd have to double the amount of

1996
01:26:44,090 --> 01:26:41,280
power going into this radar station

1997
01:26:45,890 --> 01:26:44,100
so this would cause lots of cancer and

1998
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:45,900
the guys that worked at these stations

1999
01:26:49,790 --> 01:26:48,000
and get some major health risks all

2000
01:26:51,649 --> 01:26:49,800
around they were dangerous they would

2001
01:26:53,090 --> 01:26:51,659
catch on fire because of the high power

2002
01:26:55,070 --> 01:26:53,100
going through anything yeah and this is

2003
01:26:56,530 --> 01:26:55,080
what year it's before people knew about

2004
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:56,540
all the dangers of all this

2005
01:27:02,570 --> 01:27:00,719
electromagnetic radiation yeah

2006
01:27:04,490 --> 01:27:02,580
yeah so

2007
01:27:10,370 --> 01:27:04,500
I talked to I talked to several other

2008
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:13,490
and Ramsey they did the Aztec UFO UFO

2009
01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:16,560
crash and they did a really good job at

2010
01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:18,840
making the making documentaries and

2011
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:20,940
books on this they said there was one in

2012
01:27:26,209 --> 01:27:23,760
White Sands and one near Roswell and of

2013
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:26,219
course there's a Roswell UFO crash as we

2014
01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:28,199
all know in the same general area where

2015
01:27:32,510 --> 01:27:29,880
this radar Tower works there's two radar

2016
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:32,520
Towers Harry Drew he does a good job

2017
01:27:37,129 --> 01:27:35,520
with the Kingman UFO crash and he said

2018
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,139
that there was one tower on a place

2019
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:39,120
called radar Hill right outside of town

2020
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:42,239
and that UFO supposedly crashed there

2021
01:27:46,669 --> 01:27:44,040
and then Leonard Stringfield brought up

2022
01:27:48,250 --> 01:27:46,679
the idea and some of his early I guess

2023
01:27:50,689 --> 01:27:48,260
you call him his retrieval reports

2024
01:27:51,890 --> 01:27:50,699
saying that he thought that these Powers

2025
01:27:53,330 --> 01:27:51,900
might have something to do with these

2026
01:27:54,970 --> 01:27:53,340
UFOs crash

2027
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:54,980
well

2028
01:28:00,410 --> 01:27:57,360
this power Kimberly mountain is

2029
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:00,420
overlooked the exact area

2030
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:03,360
where the 1950s UFO had come down in the

2031
01:28:08,209 --> 01:28:04,880
stopper mine

2032
01:28:10,010 --> 01:28:08,219
and like I said they had the juice in

2033
01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:10,020
this thing to make it go about between

2034
01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:12,960
25 and 50 miles

2035
01:28:19,129 --> 01:28:15,420
so they're tracking this X-15 rocket

2036
01:28:20,330 --> 01:28:19,139
plane I was told once the project ended

2037
01:28:23,629 --> 01:28:20,340
that they started tracking cruise

2038
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,639
missile tests over in the in that

2039
01:28:26,930 --> 01:28:24,960
general part of the state they started

2040
01:28:28,910 --> 01:28:26,940
tracking cruise missile tests

2041
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:28,920
and sometimes if they see something

2042
01:28:34,370 --> 01:28:31,199
weird on the radar whether it be a UFO

2043
01:28:36,590 --> 01:28:34,380
or an unknown flying object of some kind

2044
01:28:38,750 --> 01:28:36,600
whether it was spars or someone else's

2045
01:28:40,129 --> 01:28:38,760
they would track it using those radar

2046
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,139
Towers they kind of Bounce them off of

2047
01:28:44,990 --> 01:28:43,440
each other and tracked things

2048
01:28:47,930 --> 01:28:45,000
so

2049
01:28:50,090 --> 01:28:47,940
remember that like I said I was about 25

2050
01:28:54,050 --> 01:28:50,100
to 50 mile rate

2051
01:28:57,410 --> 01:28:54,060
okay so in 1964

2052
01:28:59,629 --> 01:28:57,420
another UFO incident happened

2053
01:29:01,610 --> 01:28:59,639
it was featured in the evening and paper

2054
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:01,620
once again talking about the mining

2055
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:03,679
crash that I had just told you guys

2056
01:29:09,770 --> 01:29:07,560
and one morning I got a call from a man

2057
01:29:12,110 --> 01:29:09,780
and he starts telling me a story about

2058
01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:12,120
this UFO incident that I have never

2059
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,520
heard about I had no idea what he was

2060
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:15,840
talking about it's nowhere on the

2061
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:19,440
internet so this guy he basically tells

2062
01:29:22,250 --> 01:29:20,340
me

2063
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:22,260
he's a great man on a Nevada Northern

2064
01:29:26,450 --> 01:29:24,480
Railway train and just so you guys from

2065
01:29:27,709 --> 01:29:26,460
just in case you guys I don't know if

2066
01:29:30,169 --> 01:29:27,719
you guys remember

2067
01:29:31,970 --> 01:29:30,179
the copper mine but I just said that I

2068
01:29:33,229 --> 01:29:31,980
think crashed they would mind the copper

2069
01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:33,239
and back

2070
01:29:37,790 --> 01:29:35,699
near near roof they mine it in the mine

2071
01:29:39,290 --> 01:29:37,800
they would have a railroad station where

2072
01:29:42,590 --> 01:29:39,300
they keep these trains that would hold

2073
01:29:44,510 --> 01:29:42,600
the ore in Ely so this train would pick

2074
01:29:46,910 --> 01:29:44,520
up the horn and bring it over to Mcgill

2075
01:29:50,270 --> 01:29:46,920
and then McGill is when they would turn

2076
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:50,280
this this copper ore into they'd smelt

2077
01:29:55,250 --> 01:29:52,500
it into usable product

2078
01:29:57,050 --> 01:29:55,260
so this guy says he was driving one of

2079
01:29:58,850 --> 01:29:57,060
these trains after the Ore had already

2080
01:30:01,310 --> 01:29:58,860
been smelted and they're going up north

2081
01:30:03,649 --> 01:30:01,320
asked McGill to bring it to mark

2082
01:30:05,209 --> 01:30:03,659
and he said they came around to bend in

2083
01:30:07,729 --> 01:30:05,219
the tracks and he said that you could

2084
01:30:09,770 --> 01:30:07,739
see trouble up ahead his exact words

2085
01:30:11,930 --> 01:30:09,780
were the tracks were thrown around and

2086
01:30:14,090 --> 01:30:11,940
bent my pretzels and he said you could

2087
01:30:17,450 --> 01:30:14,100
see there was gone everywhere

2088
01:30:19,550 --> 01:30:17,460
so he hit the brakes on the train and

2089
01:30:21,169 --> 01:30:19,560
the train partially derails when it

2090
01:30:24,830 --> 01:30:21,179
comes to a stop

2091
01:30:27,050 --> 01:30:24,840
and he says off to your left you can see

2092
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:27,060
there's a farmer's field with all kinds

2093
01:30:32,570 --> 01:30:30,480
of strange debris what he said this is

2094
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,580
probably one of the most

2095
01:30:38,090 --> 01:30:34,560
parts of the story

2096
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:38,100
so there's debris off to the left

2097
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:39,840
and

2098
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:42,000
over to your right

2099
01:30:48,010 --> 01:30:45,360
he says the base of this hill he said

2100
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:48,020
there was a cigar-shaped object

2101
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:51,360
there's a cigar-shaped object but upside

2102
01:30:56,330 --> 01:30:54,239
down and basically half of this object

2103
01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:56,340
is totally disintegrated and blown open

2104
01:31:00,050 --> 01:30:58,080
and he said there's small fire

2105
01:31:02,229 --> 01:31:00,060
smoldering like this thing has crashed

2106
01:31:06,050 --> 01:31:02,239
somewhat recently

2107
01:31:07,970 --> 01:31:06,060
train stops there was three or four the

2108
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:07,980
guy couldn't remember three or four

2109
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:10,980
female ranchers that were on Horseback

2110
01:31:14,270 --> 01:31:13,199
and they rode away when they saw this

2111
01:31:16,250 --> 01:31:14,280
train pull up

2112
01:31:18,290 --> 01:31:16,260
I don't know if they were scared or I

2113
01:31:20,689 --> 01:31:18,300
don't know what the case is but we'll

2114
01:31:24,290 --> 01:31:20,699
talk more about them in a moment

2115
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:24,300
so they use their radio and they call it

2116
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:26,400
Dispatch over an Ely

2117
01:31:30,410 --> 01:31:27,900
Haley

2118
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:30,420
they said a wrecking crane over there

2119
01:31:33,410 --> 01:31:31,920
which is the wrecking crane if you want

2120
01:31:35,090 --> 01:31:33,420
to show the picture Stephen of some of

2121
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:35,100
the pictures of the wrecking cream yeah

2122
01:31:38,030 --> 01:31:36,719
I will get those

2123
01:31:39,709 --> 01:31:38,040
yeah

2124
01:31:41,390 --> 01:31:39,719
so that he sent some of the pictures

2125
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:41,400
they sent the wrecking crane out there

2126
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:42,960
they thought this was some kind of

2127
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:45,960
railroad accident a wrecking crane

2128
01:31:49,610 --> 01:31:48,060
test for your listeners they're not

2129
01:31:52,910 --> 01:31:49,620
everyone's familiar with this stuff a

2130
01:31:55,129 --> 01:31:52,920
wrecking crane is basically a crane on a

2131
01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:55,139
box car a railroad box car

2132
01:32:01,010 --> 01:31:58,440
and what it would do was pick a pivot

2133
01:32:03,050 --> 01:32:01,020
it could move left it can move right

2134
01:32:04,910 --> 01:32:03,060
it can pick things up on one track and

2135
01:32:06,890 --> 01:32:04,920
move them to another and it's steam

2136
01:32:09,290 --> 01:32:06,900
powered this thing was built in the

2137
01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:09,300
early 1900s but for some reason it was

2138
01:32:13,550 --> 01:32:11,460
the strongest Crane in that part of the

2139
01:32:15,890 --> 01:32:13,560
state yeah and I'm showing an image of

2140
01:32:18,410 --> 01:32:15,900
that right now

2141
01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:18,420
yep

2142
01:32:20,990 --> 01:32:19,679
and

2143
01:32:23,209 --> 01:32:21,000
um

2144
01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:23,219
so they bring in a crane and do what

2145
01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:25,260
pick up the object and put it somewhere

2146
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:27,780
yeah they don't

2147
01:32:30,530 --> 01:32:28,860
they didn't know before they got like

2148
01:32:32,510 --> 01:32:30,540
the military involved they thought that

2149
01:32:33,890 --> 01:32:32,520
this train partially derailed so they

2150
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:33,900
sent the wrecking crane in the picture

2151
01:32:38,450 --> 01:32:36,120
you're seeing right there they sent that

2152
01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:38,460
frame down the tracks and they thought

2153
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,600
that they're going to move the train

2154
01:32:43,550 --> 01:32:41,280
back on the track say that partial

2155
01:32:45,229 --> 01:32:43,560
derail

2156
01:32:47,450 --> 01:32:45,239
okay well

2157
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:47,460
he of course pulled up to the site and

2158
01:32:52,490 --> 01:32:49,560
they see that this object

2159
01:32:54,350 --> 01:32:52,500
there's no train there's they see that

2160
01:32:57,290 --> 01:32:54,360
it's some kind of uh something that was

2161
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,300
flying or a hand fly they didn't see it

2162
01:33:00,410 --> 01:32:59,280
flying but obviously it was

2163
01:33:01,970 --> 01:33:00,420
because they don't know how else it

2164
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:01,980
would have gotten there

2165
01:33:08,090 --> 01:33:05,520
and they end up calling the Ely National

2166
01:33:10,970 --> 01:33:08,100
Guard gets called out once again

2167
01:33:12,890 --> 01:33:10,980
from the same Armory over and Healy nice

2168
01:33:15,010 --> 01:33:12,900
pictures of the armory on my website too

2169
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:15,020
if your viewers are interested in that

2170
01:33:30,410 --> 01:33:25,129
I'll tell you just a moment

2171
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,030
okay

2172
01:33:36,169 --> 01:33:34,800
engines that were involved in the in the

2173
01:33:38,570 --> 01:33:36,179
crash

2174
01:33:42,890 --> 01:33:38,580
choral one and the 201

2175
01:33:47,390 --> 01:33:45,169
yeah that's that's an interesting part

2176
01:33:49,970 --> 01:33:47,400
of this story so you investigated this

2177
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:49,980
and even found the trains that have been

2178
01:33:54,229 --> 01:33:52,560
sort of restored and put in a museum and

2179
01:33:55,729 --> 01:33:54,239
they're still around and you have photos

2180
01:33:58,250 --> 01:33:55,739
of that here

2181
01:34:00,050 --> 01:33:58,260
oh yeah the wrecking crane is on display

2182
01:34:01,729 --> 01:34:00,060
at the Museum they sometimes do

2183
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:01,739
demonstrations like the picture that you

2184
01:34:08,930 --> 01:34:07,490
one is that a

2185
01:34:10,669 --> 01:34:08,940
Museum in Seattle

2186
01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:10,679
but they're shipping it back here and

2187
01:34:14,209 --> 01:34:12,480
the 401 has already arrived they already

2188
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:14,219
got it shipped back

2189
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:17,040
interesting but uh it kind of spooked me

2190
01:34:21,229 --> 01:34:18,480
to go walk up to him after you know what

2191
01:34:23,090 --> 01:34:21,239
was going on yeah the fact that these

2192
01:34:25,129 --> 01:34:23,100
that these old trains may have been

2193
01:34:27,410 --> 01:34:25,139
involved in the crash of an alien

2194
01:34:29,149 --> 01:34:27,420
spacecraft that would be Eerie to see

2195
01:34:31,970 --> 01:34:29,159
them and they're all completely restored

2196
01:34:35,090 --> 01:34:31,980
just as if they were just like they

2197
01:34:36,649 --> 01:34:35,100
would have appeared at that time all

2198
01:34:38,030 --> 01:34:36,659
those years ago

2199
01:34:39,950 --> 01:34:38,040
yeah

2200
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:39,960
this is kind of irrelevant but kind of

2201
01:34:45,530 --> 01:34:42,480
interesting the 201 which is the yellow

2202
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:45,540
one the 201 was used to go into the

2203
01:34:48,830 --> 01:34:47,340
month because it could take it's smaller

2204
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,840
it could take like the type turns and

2205
01:34:53,209 --> 01:34:50,639
everything so the two old one was used

2206
01:34:55,310 --> 01:34:53,219
more than the 401 the 401 bulky but it's

2207
01:34:56,990 --> 01:34:55,320
stronger so what they would do is the

2208
01:35:00,050 --> 01:34:57,000
401 would kind of go the long distance

2209
01:35:01,370 --> 01:35:00,060
and the 201 would be more locally and

2210
01:35:03,229 --> 01:35:01,380
what they would do is sometimes they

2211
01:35:05,149 --> 01:35:03,239
would put them together they call it mu

2212
01:35:07,250 --> 01:35:05,159
I don't know what those abbreviation

2213
01:35:09,709 --> 01:35:07,260
means that's M the letter M the letter U

2214
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:09,719
the Foster BD that's the abbreviation

2215
01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:11,280
when they hook them together

2216
01:35:15,410 --> 01:35:13,380
yeah I don't recall what that means

2217
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:15,420
either but I know my father was a

2218
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:17,760
trained guy and they would put two

2219
01:35:22,610 --> 01:35:20,159
engines I know for I know this from my

2220
01:35:25,850 --> 01:35:22,620
father they would put two engines

2221
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:25,860
at the front of a very very heavy overs

2222
01:35:31,550 --> 01:35:29,520
or oversized load to ensure that it

2223
01:35:34,189 --> 01:35:31,560
would be able to travel down the rails

2224
01:35:36,590 --> 01:35:34,199
safely more than enough power was used

2225
01:35:38,030 --> 01:35:36,600
instead of they always aired on the side

2226
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:38,040
of caution if they weren't sure they

2227
01:35:48,050 --> 01:35:45,410
those are the actual engines that were

2228
01:35:50,030 --> 01:35:48,060
used as Paul tilby was the engineer that

2229
01:35:54,169 --> 01:35:50,040
they he was driving those trained people

2230
01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:54,179
those specific engine numbers and every

2231
01:35:58,610 --> 01:35:55,920
okay

2232
01:36:00,729 --> 01:35:58,620
so anyway so something to think so the

2233
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:00,739
train pulls up the wrecking paints there

2234
01:36:05,270 --> 01:36:03,360
they're strange debris out into this

2235
01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:05,280
field I've been in just a moment there's

2236
01:36:10,129 --> 01:36:07,860
this crap they said they said the frame

2237
01:36:12,530 --> 01:36:10,139
looked like it was like a cylinder or

2238
01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:12,540
like a cigar shape and they said that

2239
01:36:18,709 --> 01:36:16,260
half of it was blown open so this thing

2240
01:36:20,530 --> 01:36:18,719
from what it sounds like and from what

2241
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:20,540
the right of from what the wreckage

2242
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:24,480
describes it hit one of the ends hit

2243
01:36:28,189 --> 01:36:25,920
first into the ground and this thing

2244
01:36:29,870 --> 01:36:28,199
flipped around and around and over and

2245
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:29,880
through whatever was inside all over

2246
01:36:35,450 --> 01:36:32,400
this Farmer's field never hit this

2247
01:36:37,850 --> 01:36:35,460
Farmer's field it bounced up an

2248
01:36:40,250 --> 01:36:37,860
embankment and hit this railroad tracks

2249
01:36:41,870 --> 01:36:40,260
and it kept going and smashed into this

2250
01:36:44,090 --> 01:36:41,880
hill

2251
01:36:46,189 --> 01:36:44,100
yeah that's bizarre

2252
01:36:49,490 --> 01:36:46,199
oh yeah

2253
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:49,500
let me see which email number I sent you

2254
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,030
it would be

2255
01:37:00,410 --> 01:36:58,850
email number three all right I'll see if

2256
01:37:03,470 --> 01:37:00,420
I can't find that and we'll share those

2257
01:37:09,410 --> 01:37:07,070
sure and so so I just so I'm sure I

2258
01:37:12,169 --> 01:37:09,420
understand so this thing crashes the top

2259
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:12,179
is is ripped off there's little fires

2260
01:37:16,970 --> 01:37:14,400
all around and they and it's right near

2261
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:16,980
the rails so they pull in these trains

2262
01:37:20,209 --> 01:37:19,260
with this huge Crane and then what

2263
01:37:22,490 --> 01:37:20,219
happens

2264
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:22,500
well the trains were pulling a load of

2265
01:37:26,090 --> 01:37:24,719
four or a load of a copper that was

2266
01:37:28,189 --> 01:37:26,100
smelted they were going to bring it up

2267
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,199
to Seattle to go spring it to the docks

2268
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:30,239
the center of Japan for Market

2269
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:32,880
and uh the train that you just saw in

2270
01:37:36,110 --> 01:37:34,320
the picture one of the two trains

2271
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:36,120
derailed so they've sent that Wrecking

2272
01:37:40,129 --> 01:37:37,920
Crane in to

2273
01:37:42,169 --> 01:37:40,139
put the trains back on the track so they

2274
01:37:43,729 --> 01:37:42,179
could either back up to Ely or so they

2275
01:37:45,770 --> 01:37:43,739
could keep going since they recorded

2276
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:45,780
this accident

2277
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:46,560
um

2278
01:37:51,649 --> 01:37:48,960
so of course yeah we're sharing your

2279
01:37:53,570 --> 01:37:51,659
your website and your portfolio with the

2280
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,580
gallery with descriptions of the images

2281
01:37:58,370 --> 01:37:56,400
but right now I'm sharing on screen the

2282
01:38:00,649 --> 01:37:58,380
images from email number three which

2283
01:38:04,610 --> 01:38:00,659
shows the area that this crash took

2284
01:38:04,620 --> 01:38:13,250
okay so you're looking at right now

2285
01:38:17,149 --> 01:38:15,830
an indentation in there and it's kind of

2286
01:38:18,530 --> 01:38:17,159
Swampy because it doesn't rain

2287
01:38:20,810 --> 01:38:18,540
themselves a lot up there it's kind of

2288
01:38:24,890 --> 01:38:20,820
gross nasty like it's like almost it's

2289
01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:27,410
so um

2290
01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:29,580
well that could be evidence of an alien

2291
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:32,280
space crash or it could be evidence of

2292
01:38:38,450 --> 01:38:35,280
bad drainage you know I'm not sure about

2293
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:38,460
that so

2294
01:38:42,290 --> 01:38:40,800
so I'll describe the crash site after

2295
01:38:43,550 --> 01:38:42,300
I'll tell the basic story and then we'll

2296
01:38:44,570 --> 01:38:43,560
go back and describe it back inside

2297
01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:44,580
that's probably better so doesn't

2298
01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:46,260
confuse

2299
01:38:49,850 --> 01:38:47,940
me okay so

2300
01:38:51,709 --> 01:38:49,860
object hits that Farmer's field and

2301
01:38:54,830 --> 01:38:51,719
that's what that indentate in the dark

2302
01:38:56,810 --> 01:38:54,840
areas on there it took out

2303
01:38:58,129 --> 01:38:56,820
so they had some old Telegraph polls

2304
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,139
that weren't being used but they still

2305
01:39:02,990 --> 01:39:00,480
existed and that's what that dark hole

2306
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,000
is right there is a telegraph poll that

2307
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:05,280
was destroyed when this object was

2308
01:39:08,510 --> 01:39:07,260
flying through the air and you can see

2309
01:39:10,129 --> 01:39:08,520
the railroad tracks that's what they

2310
01:39:13,010 --> 01:39:10,139
look like nowadays because they stopped

2311
01:39:14,810 --> 01:39:13,020
using the railroad tracks in 1982. okay

2312
01:39:17,149 --> 01:39:14,820
so whatever this object is is a HIPAA

2313
01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:17,159
area or through those telephone poles

2314
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,739
destroyed the tracks right off screen to

2315
01:39:24,890 --> 01:39:21,840
the right of where that railroad track

2316
01:39:26,450 --> 01:39:24,900
is and it plowed into this mountain

2317
01:39:29,629 --> 01:39:26,460
so

2318
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:29,639
the railroad company in the Nevada

2319
01:39:32,990 --> 01:39:31,199
Northern Railway they end up calling the

2320
01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:33,000
illegal Police Department who eventually

2321
01:39:38,870 --> 01:39:35,460
again followed the Healey Armory

2322
01:39:41,209 --> 01:39:38,880
so this Battalion the battery a

2323
01:39:43,310 --> 01:39:41,219
battalion the National Guard people I

2324
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:43,320
was mentioned in the other Story the

2325
01:39:47,689 --> 01:39:46,320
Navy they arrive on site except for at

2326
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:47,699
this point

2327
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:50,159
there is an Airfield over an Italy

2328
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,139
called Yellen field which they were

2329
01:39:59,090 --> 01:39:54,960
using to test bombers for the Korean War

2330
01:40:01,550 --> 01:39:59,100
so they did have an actual place in the

2331
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:01,560
caban bombers at this point so I was

2332
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:02,880
told that

2333
01:40:07,550 --> 01:40:05,280
an actual Convoy came from Hill Air

2334
01:40:09,649 --> 01:40:07,560
Force Base but this time when the Convoy

2335
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,659
came they actually picked up the pieces

2336
01:40:13,970 --> 01:40:12,480
of this UFO and they wanted to yell in

2337
01:40:14,930 --> 01:40:13,980
the shield and they just flew it off in

2338
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:14,940
an airplane

2339
01:40:18,890 --> 01:40:17,520
versus having to drive the drive it back

2340
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:18,900
well it must not have been very big if

2341
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:20,159
they could fly it off in an airplane

2342
01:40:26,270 --> 01:40:24,239
then right but I mean I guess a C-130 or

2343
01:40:29,870 --> 01:40:26,280
something like that or equivalent at the

2344
01:40:31,729 --> 01:40:29,880
time yeah could take a tank or a uh or a

2345
01:40:37,010 --> 01:40:31,739
you know uh

2346
01:40:39,709 --> 01:40:37,020
tank maybe a a transport or you know a

2347
01:40:42,110 --> 01:40:39,719
Jeep or a vehicle but nothing that much

2348
01:40:44,689 --> 01:40:42,120
bigger so did you have any details about

2349
01:40:47,450 --> 01:40:44,699
the size of this thing and you said

2350
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:47,460
there was the top was ripped off and

2351
01:41:00,830 --> 01:40:59,090
people got there they ended up taking

2352
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:00,840
all of the guys off the train they

2353
01:41:04,250 --> 01:41:02,639
brought up to the elite jail of all

2354
01:41:05,090 --> 01:41:04,260
places and they interviewed them in this

2355
01:41:07,250 --> 01:41:05,100
jail

2356
01:41:08,270 --> 01:41:07,260
they didn't bring them like I don't know

2357
01:41:09,709 --> 01:41:08,280
if they brought him to the jail because

2358
01:41:11,930 --> 01:41:09,719
it was the most secure area where they

2359
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:11,940
could talk to private or what they

2360
01:41:15,110 --> 01:41:13,440
brought them to the EB jail the guys on

2361
01:41:16,729 --> 01:41:15,120
the train were saying and they

2362
01:41:19,250 --> 01:41:16,739
interrogated these guys and they were

2363
01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:19,260
asking them what they saw uh they're not

2364
01:41:22,669 --> 01:41:21,780
supposed to talk about it it's that type

2365
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:22,679
of thing

2366
01:41:26,330 --> 01:41:24,239
so

2367
01:41:28,430 --> 01:41:26,340
they have this they have a convoy

2368
01:41:30,050 --> 01:41:28,440
driving from Hill airport space and they

2369
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,060
also have the plane not eventually land

2370
01:41:34,430 --> 01:41:32,400
to pick them up so again they have about

2371
01:41:37,010 --> 01:41:34,440
a three or four hour window for these

2372
01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:37,020
National Guard men are sitting at this

2373
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:40,070
[Music]

2374
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:40,800
um

2375
01:41:45,770 --> 01:41:42,719
which other pictures do you have Stephen

2376
01:41:48,530 --> 01:41:45,780
like put up another one uh sure the next

2377
01:41:52,490 --> 01:41:50,330
the next one here shows some sort of

2378
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:52,500
metal thing protruding from a field oh

2379
01:42:04,790 --> 01:41:56,209
okay

2380
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,070
put the thing actually ended up bouncing

2381
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:09,360
I went over the railroad tracks it just

2382
01:42:13,310 --> 01:42:11,040
slip and hand over hand and smashed into

2383
01:42:14,030 --> 01:42:13,320
that fur I'll explain that in just a

2384
01:42:16,669 --> 01:42:14,040
moment

2385
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:16,679
about you your your viewers can see but

2386
01:42:20,990 --> 01:42:18,600
what the area looks like

2387
01:42:22,189 --> 01:42:21,000
so this Convoy is coming from Hill Air

2388
01:42:23,870 --> 01:42:22,199
Force Base

2389
01:42:26,689 --> 01:42:23,880
and

2390
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,699
I told Stephen the oh I'm sorry I'm

2391
01:42:30,770 --> 01:42:28,320
sharing the wrong picture let me let me

2392
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:30,780
get the right one

2393
01:42:51,169 --> 01:42:39,649
now we have the burn photo on screen

2394
01:42:56,510 --> 01:42:54,649
there's no dog unit and I love you a

2395
01:42:58,250 --> 01:42:56,520
little bit about him on the phone so

2396
01:42:59,930 --> 01:42:58,260
this one witness I do want to be

2397
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:59,940
anonymous I hope Steve a little bit

2398
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:01,500
about it

2399
01:43:07,550 --> 01:43:04,980
he steps into this opened end of this

2400
01:43:08,930 --> 01:43:07,560
craft and he's and I guess it's since

2401
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:08,940
it's flipped upside down he would

2402
01:43:13,010 --> 01:43:10,560
technically be standing on the roof he's

2403
01:43:14,689 --> 01:43:13,020
inside this thing and he goes in with

2404
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:14,699
one other guy

2405
01:43:19,010 --> 01:43:17,280
and the way he described it

2406
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:19,020
was that it looked like you were

2407
01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:21,360
standing on the desert floor

2408
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:23,040
it looked like there was no walls around

2409
01:43:27,290 --> 01:43:24,960
you but you could tell you were in some

2410
01:43:29,390 --> 01:43:27,300
kind of uh a room because it was he said

2411
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:29,400
look like modern day night vision where

2412
01:43:40,430 --> 01:43:32,639
it's kind of like the black and green

2413
01:43:44,030 --> 01:43:41,810
he slowed down

2414
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:44,040
season in there

2415
01:43:48,530 --> 01:43:46,380
have any proof of that but that was kind

2416
01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:48,540
of cool cool dimension

2417
01:43:52,370 --> 01:43:50,639
um so you you interviewed somebody that

2418
01:43:54,649 --> 01:43:52,380
claims they stepped into the craft they

2419
01:43:56,510 --> 01:43:54,659
felt some sort of time distortion

2420
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:56,520
and what they saw around them looked

2421
01:44:07,129 --> 01:44:03,350
oh that is weird

2422
01:44:09,169 --> 01:44:07,139
so I end up talking to some of the guys

2423
01:44:11,209 --> 01:44:09,179
on the battery a second automatic

2424
01:44:13,490 --> 01:44:11,219
weapons were coming in before I haven't

2425
01:44:14,930 --> 01:44:13,500
talked to very many of the actual guys

2426
01:44:16,970 --> 01:44:14,940
Phil Air Force Base

2427
01:44:18,590 --> 01:44:16,980
I've talked to a lot of the people that

2428
01:44:21,890 --> 01:44:18,600
were part of the garden a lot of them

2429
01:44:24,050 --> 01:44:21,900
still live in that general area

2430
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,060
um they said that there was strange

2431
01:44:29,209 --> 01:44:26,880
bodies in the farmer's field in that

2432
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,219
dark spot that I was that we pulled up

2433
01:44:33,770 --> 01:44:31,199
earlier in that whole general area

2434
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,780
they said that basically what they

2435
01:44:37,609 --> 01:44:35,280
described they said there was small

2436
01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:37,619
creatures of what one guy said and he

2437
01:44:41,689 --> 01:44:39,900
said the creatures were tan colored he

2438
01:44:45,530 --> 01:44:41,699
said that they were about four foot tall

2439
01:44:48,109 --> 01:44:45,540
they had big eyes and he said that there

2440
01:44:50,810 --> 01:44:48,119
was no blood or anything but he says

2441
01:44:52,669 --> 01:44:50,820
that you could see that clearly that

2442
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,679
they were mutilated that when this thing

2443
01:44:56,510 --> 01:44:54,480
blew up it must have formed those things

2444
01:44:59,149 --> 01:44:56,520
to shred and he said that there was

2445
01:45:01,209 --> 01:44:59,159
pieces of what looked like glass all in

2446
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:01,219
the dirt where the railroad tracks

2447
01:45:04,810 --> 01:45:02,880
interesting they said that there was

2448
01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:04,820
small fires everywhere

2449
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:08,159
and some of the guys started crying when

2450
01:45:10,910 --> 01:45:09,360
I would talk to them because they said

2451
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:10,920
that I guess this was traumatizing to

2452
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:13,920
them and one guy said one of the one of

2453
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:16,080
the beings or creatures I guess you

2454
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:17,280
would call him he said one of them he

2455
01:45:21,290 --> 01:45:19,199
thought was gurgling like I don't know

2456
01:45:23,450 --> 01:45:21,300
if it was if it was alive yeah so just

2457
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:23,460
just to be clear so you're interviewing

2458
01:45:28,669 --> 01:45:26,400
these on the record in Witnesses who

2459
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,679
were witness to this event and they're

2460
01:45:32,270 --> 01:45:30,719
telling you one told you he stepped into

2461
01:45:35,149 --> 01:45:32,280
the craft felt some sort of time

2462
01:45:36,830 --> 01:45:35,159
Distortion and and strange effects and

2463
01:45:40,129 --> 01:45:36,840
these other people who witnessed the

2464
01:45:42,410 --> 01:45:40,139
event are telling you that they saw

2465
01:45:47,090 --> 01:45:42,420
four foot tall humanoid

2466
01:45:49,070 --> 01:45:47,100
bodies with tan skin and big eyes your

2467
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:49,080
your typical description I suppose of

2468
01:45:57,050 --> 01:45:55,070
I have quite a few people that reported

2469
01:45:58,669 --> 01:45:57,060
him at this the guys that were on the

2470
01:46:00,649 --> 01:45:58,679
train reported them

2471
01:46:02,750 --> 01:46:00,659
they they just call them victims and

2472
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:02,760
they call them preachers and victims and

2473
01:46:12,169 --> 01:46:10,609
um apparently all of the creatures were

2474
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:12,179
laying in that field there was none of

2475
01:46:16,850 --> 01:46:14,820
the creatures in this Sandy area where

2476
01:46:18,169 --> 01:46:16,860
the tracks are

2477
01:46:20,570 --> 01:46:18,179
so

2478
01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:20,580
the Convoy eventually rise from Hill Air

2479
01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:22,260
Force Base same thing happens they take

2480
01:46:25,970 --> 01:46:24,000
all these guys the

2481
01:46:28,850 --> 01:46:25,980
National Guard guys are told to leave

2482
01:46:31,370 --> 01:46:28,860
and the military handles it they pick up

2483
01:46:32,810 --> 01:46:31,380
all the pieces pieces as much as they

2484
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,820
could you could see the area the way the

2485
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:34,320
sagebrush and stuff but there's no way

2486
01:46:36,830 --> 01:46:35,520
you're going to get everything out of

2487
01:46:37,790 --> 01:46:36,840
there

2488
01:46:40,129 --> 01:46:37,800
um

2489
01:46:42,169 --> 01:46:40,139
so they pick up as much as they can they

2490
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:42,179
think they got it all I seem to think

2491
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:43,199
there might be something out there

2492
01:46:47,149 --> 01:46:45,360
whether it's be tiny or whatever but if

2493
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,159
you look at that area there's no way I

2494
01:46:51,229 --> 01:46:49,440
don't think you could get everything

2495
01:46:53,689 --> 01:46:51,239
so

2496
01:46:55,370 --> 01:46:53,699
this object is eventually loaded onto a

2497
01:46:58,129 --> 01:46:55,380
bomber of some kind and flown at a

2498
01:47:00,290 --> 01:46:58,139
Yellen feel and my information on that

2499
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:00,300
comes from the the guy that was leading

2500
01:47:04,430 --> 01:47:02,880
that National Guard unit okay I told you

2501
01:47:08,570 --> 01:47:04,440
why in private why I'm not going to say

2502
01:47:12,770 --> 01:47:10,850
Stephen you there yeah I'm here I'm I'm

2503
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:12,780
just listening and and I'm sure you

2504
01:47:16,189 --> 01:47:13,920
understand that there's some very

2505
01:47:18,109 --> 01:47:16,199
skeptical people in the audience oh yeah

2506
01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:18,119
and and one person mentioned we're all

2507
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,340
waiting for a picture of a crash Flying

2508
01:47:25,370 --> 01:47:22,860
Saucer on the ground with alien bodies

2509
01:47:27,709 --> 01:47:25,380
around it and you don't have it

2510
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:27,719
to be fair you don't have that you have

2511
01:47:33,290 --> 01:47:30,719
witnesses who describe this to you

2512
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:33,300
yes and what about the veracity and the

2513
01:47:39,050 --> 01:47:35,520
ethics

2514
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,060
sure but what about the you know the

2515
01:47:43,250 --> 01:47:41,520
witnesses themselves did you verify that

2516
01:47:46,010 --> 01:47:43,260
they were living in the area at the time

2517
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:46,020
working near there would have been

2518
01:47:51,410 --> 01:47:49,440
able to to be a witness

2519
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:51,420
so you did the background and these

2520
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:56,930
efforts about everyone that's worked for

2521
01:48:00,109 --> 01:47:58,320
the Nevada everyone that's worked for

2522
01:48:01,250 --> 01:48:00,119
the mind their records are in the the

2523
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:01,260
Nevada

2524
01:48:08,450 --> 01:48:06,480
Railway Museum in Ely they have a whole

2525
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,460
building a gigantic building just full

2526
01:48:12,530 --> 01:48:11,040
of archives of people everything every

2527
01:48:13,970 --> 01:48:12,540
piece of paper that was produced from

2528
01:48:15,649 --> 01:48:13,980
the day they opened to the moment they

2529
01:48:17,629 --> 01:48:15,659
closed is in that bill

2530
01:48:21,169 --> 01:48:17,639
and I've gone there tons of times and

2531
01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:21,179
spent about another Railway thing the

2532
01:48:24,290 --> 01:48:23,040
they can go on their website if you go

2533
01:48:26,750 --> 01:48:24,300
on their website you can even see

2534
01:48:37,970 --> 01:48:26,760
pictures of the archives on here okay

2535
01:48:42,169 --> 01:48:40,490
hold there uh I found some of the guys

2536
01:48:44,090 --> 01:48:42,179
that were in the truck that they brought

2537
01:48:46,669 --> 01:48:44,100
back

2538
01:48:49,129 --> 01:48:46,679
um Paul Kilby's the guy who was driving

2539
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:49,139
the train I found his records kind of

2540
01:48:53,209 --> 01:48:51,840
the Railroad Museum so I just want to

2541
01:48:55,129 --> 01:48:53,219
clearly establish that these weren't

2542
01:48:56,870 --> 01:48:55,139
just a bunch of Nutters in the town who

2543
01:48:59,149 --> 01:48:56,880
were telling you this story you tracked

2544
01:49:00,830 --> 01:48:59,159
these people down you verified that they

2545
01:49:01,729 --> 01:49:00,840
were there at the time working in the

2546
01:49:04,250 --> 01:49:01,739
area

2547
01:49:13,609 --> 01:49:04,260
they're not just random people telling

2548
01:49:18,770 --> 01:49:15,350
these times or they can go to the white

2549
01:49:20,270 --> 01:49:18,780
pine Public Museum and find out yeah and

2550
01:49:22,129 --> 01:49:20,280
no no offense we're just trying to

2551
01:49:24,169 --> 01:49:22,139
establish that these are good witnesses

2552
01:49:25,729 --> 01:49:24,179
that told you and how many witnesses

2553
01:49:29,689 --> 01:49:25,739
would you say you interviewed that told

2554
01:49:32,209 --> 01:49:31,490
um but you verified were they at the

2555
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:32,219
time

2556
01:49:37,250 --> 01:49:35,520
probably about n about ten so we've got

2557
01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:37,260
ten Witnesses

2558
01:49:41,870 --> 01:49:39,540
and they're all telling similar or the

2559
01:49:43,790 --> 01:49:41,880
same stories and they're all telling

2560
01:49:45,649 --> 01:49:43,800
similar the same stories about seeing

2561
01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:45,659
bodies and the descriptions are similar

2562
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:47,880
that they're giving you yes one of the

2563
01:49:53,930 --> 01:49:50,639
most compelling stories I have actually

2564
01:49:58,129 --> 01:49:53,940
I again Times paper for a different

2565
01:50:01,790 --> 01:49:58,139
story and a guy named Daniel found

2566
01:50:03,709 --> 01:50:01,800
Daniel grew up on a ranch about two

2567
01:50:04,910 --> 01:50:03,719
miles from these pictures that you were

2568
01:50:06,830 --> 01:50:04,920
showing where it shows like the

2569
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:06,840
indentation in the ground and whatnot

2570
01:50:12,169 --> 01:50:10,800
uh-huh and she says that back when he

2571
01:50:14,090 --> 01:50:12,179
was a kid

2572
01:50:16,970 --> 01:50:14,100
his mom used to tell him stories about

2573
01:50:20,990 --> 01:50:16,980
in the 19 early 1960s he thought it was

2574
01:50:23,810 --> 01:50:21,000
1962 but I seem to think that 1964. but

2575
01:50:27,950 --> 01:50:23,820
anyways he says that in the early 1960s

2576
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:27,960
his mom saw alien bodies and she saw a

2577
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:30,480
crashed Flying Saucer

2578
01:50:36,530 --> 01:50:33,300
and that she had witnessed it he said

2579
01:50:39,890 --> 01:50:36,540
that she was she took her ranch hand and

2580
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:39,900
she rode out to a site where a UFO had

2581
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:42,719
and she described the UFO just like the

2582
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,239
train guys that she said it was

2583
01:50:49,550 --> 01:50:47,119
cylindrical but half of it was destroyed

2584
01:50:52,189 --> 01:50:49,560
and she said that she thought she

2585
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:52,199
thought was demons at the time demons on

2586
01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:53,520
the ground

2587
01:50:58,250 --> 01:50:56,400
and that she was picked up pieces over

2588
01:51:00,770 --> 01:50:58,260
there I guess her and another woman I

2589
01:51:03,229 --> 01:51:00,780
guess stepped on part of it they're

2590
01:51:04,729 --> 01:51:03,239
climbing on it or stepping on it but

2591
01:51:07,550 --> 01:51:04,739
they tried to climb up on the side of

2592
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:07,560
this thing but I don't think they could

2593
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:10,560
but they picked up small pieces of this

2594
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,000
and they put it in their pocket and

2595
01:51:16,669 --> 01:51:14,400
while they're doing all this he told me

2596
01:51:18,649 --> 01:51:16,679
that a train from the Nevada Northern

2597
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:18,659
Railway came right in

2598
01:51:22,490 --> 01:51:21,119
and he says that his mom

2599
01:51:24,649 --> 01:51:22,500
got scared that she was going to get

2600
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,659
arrested and she rode away

2601
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,639
and supposedly

2602
01:51:31,609 --> 01:51:29,040
he said his mom still has these visas

2603
01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:31,619
somewhere like I've never seen him

2604
01:51:38,209 --> 01:51:36,350
I've seen them I haven't seen him he

2605
01:51:40,729 --> 01:51:38,219
said supposedly she still has them I've

2606
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:40,739
tried to contact them he won't answer my

2607
01:51:44,209 --> 01:51:42,000
calls and he doesn't want to talk about

2608
01:51:46,669 --> 01:51:44,219
the pieces anymore

2609
01:51:49,070 --> 01:51:46,679
cases that he described he said that

2610
01:51:50,930 --> 01:51:49,080
they were green with what looked like

2611
01:51:52,850 --> 01:51:50,940
yellow specks in them

2612
01:51:55,609 --> 01:51:52,860
and if you remember

2613
01:51:56,930 --> 01:51:55,619
the guys that walked into the front they

2614
01:51:58,250 --> 01:51:56,940
said it looked like modern day night

2615
01:52:00,530 --> 01:51:58,260
vision where it was like the green

2616
01:52:01,490 --> 01:52:00,540
greenish looking color and the green and

2617
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:01,500
black

2618
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,880
so

2619
01:52:06,649 --> 01:52:04,800
that guy

2620
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,659
at that point in time didn't know I had

2621
01:52:11,810 --> 01:52:08,639
talked to the guys on the train or the

2622
01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:11,820
military guys only because this wasn't

2623
01:52:15,709 --> 01:52:13,320
published I didn't have that many

2624
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:15,719
interviews about this at that point

2625
01:52:20,209 --> 01:52:18,480
so he described something very similar

2626
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:20,219
to what the military guys described when

2627
01:52:24,890 --> 01:52:22,860
they went inside the front

2628
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:24,900
and the story is almost the same exact

2629
01:52:28,609 --> 01:52:26,400
story that the guy on the train said but

2630
01:52:30,649 --> 01:52:28,619
it's from that woman's point of view

2631
01:52:32,510 --> 01:52:30,659
and that guy on the train verified that

2632
01:52:33,950 --> 01:52:32,520
his mom was there because he started the

2633
01:52:35,810 --> 01:52:33,960
same that those ranchers were there and

2634
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,820
they rode on

2635
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:37,440
and then of course the ranch is about

2636
01:52:47,149 --> 01:52:45,709
so after so so what we've established is

2637
01:52:49,149 --> 01:52:47,159
that you've got all these Witnesses they

2638
01:52:52,430 --> 01:52:49,159
see this crash they see strange bodies

2639
01:52:55,790 --> 01:52:52,440
and then you're saying that the the rail

2640
01:52:57,490 --> 01:52:55,800
company comes with the crane and what

2641
01:53:00,649 --> 01:52:57,500
happens then

2642
01:53:03,169 --> 01:53:00,659
so in the middle of all this so the the

2643
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:03,179
rail company Railway they sent us

2644
01:53:07,490 --> 01:53:05,040
wrecking train up there there I think

2645
01:53:09,890 --> 01:53:07,500
praying has to pick up the engine and

2646
01:53:11,689 --> 01:53:09,900
put it back on the track so then what

2647
01:53:14,510 --> 01:53:11,699
they did was

2648
01:53:15,410 --> 01:53:14,520
if you see the additional pictures of

2649
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:15,420
the ones that you know how you're

2650
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:17,040
showing like the field on there like the

2651
01:53:21,050 --> 01:53:19,440
field pictures

2652
01:53:22,970 --> 01:53:21,060
okay

2653
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:22,980
a fish next to that feeling uh you can't

2654
01:53:26,450 --> 01:53:24,480
see it on the picture I'm looking at

2655
01:53:28,370 --> 01:53:26,460
where it shows like the tracks the fold

2656
01:53:29,810 --> 01:53:28,380
and the indentation on the other side of

2657
01:53:31,790 --> 01:53:29,820
the tracks going towards the field

2658
01:53:34,010 --> 01:53:31,800
there's a big ditch filled with water

2659
01:53:35,390 --> 01:53:34,020
okay so they needed to use the wrecking

2660
01:53:40,189 --> 01:53:35,400
crane

2661
01:53:40,199 --> 01:53:43,850
and use it they didn't send us

2662
01:53:49,070 --> 01:53:46,370
send it there so they ended up using it

2663
01:53:51,649 --> 01:53:49,080
so they they use the crane and they pick

2664
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:51,659
up the pieces of this thing

2665
01:53:59,090 --> 01:53:55,440
and put it where on a on another flatbed

2666
01:54:04,609 --> 01:54:02,330
did the witnesses

2667
01:54:06,890 --> 01:54:04,619
the big open area yeah

2668
01:54:08,570 --> 01:54:06,900
and where the witnesses did they see

2669
01:54:10,370 --> 01:54:08,580
them picking this thing up with the

2670
01:54:12,530 --> 01:54:10,380
crane and putting it on these flatbeds

2671
01:54:14,330 --> 01:54:12,540
and these military trucks and what

2672
01:54:15,649 --> 01:54:14,340
happened to the bodies

2673
01:54:17,870 --> 01:54:15,659
when they were getting ready to leave

2674
01:54:19,250 --> 01:54:17,880
the wrecking crane pulled up and the

2675
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:19,260
National Guard guys were there and they

2676
01:54:21,950 --> 01:54:20,639
started sealing out the area and the

2677
01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:21,960
wrecking thing was already there and

2678
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,760
moving the engines and everything okay

2679
01:54:27,169 --> 01:54:25,440
and then what happened what happened to

2680
01:54:28,669 --> 01:54:27,179
the bodies because you don't need a

2681
01:54:30,830 --> 01:54:28,679
crane to pick up the bodies were those

2682
01:54:38,209 --> 01:54:30,840
picked up by people what happened to

2683
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:41,209
they were trying to get the main bulk of

2684
01:54:44,990 --> 01:54:43,260
the wreckage in one spot so when the

2685
01:54:47,629 --> 01:54:45,000
Hill Air Force Base guys got there it

2686
01:54:49,490 --> 01:54:47,639
was easier for them I guess they picked

2687
01:54:51,410 --> 01:54:49,500
up all the bodies and they scooted them

2688
01:54:53,570 --> 01:54:51,420
all not in a pile but it's like side by

2689
01:54:55,850 --> 01:54:53,580
side somewhere in that field

2690
01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:55,860
and uh I was brought out to that

2691
01:55:00,590 --> 01:54:58,380
specific site by the break man the

2692
01:55:05,209 --> 01:55:00,600
engineer and I brought out there by the

2693
01:55:06,770 --> 01:55:05,219
guy that ran that National Guard unit

2694
01:55:08,570 --> 01:55:06,780
um

2695
01:55:11,870 --> 01:55:08,580
Okay so

2696
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,880
the site so the reason why I know that's

2697
01:55:15,590 --> 01:55:13,440
the site besides not bringing me out

2698
01:55:17,330 --> 01:55:15,600
there I know I was telling you on the

2699
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:17,340
phone the other day

2700
01:55:24,169 --> 01:55:20,480
so we are given a specific mile marker

2701
01:55:26,510 --> 01:55:24,179
which I told you on the phone I don't

2702
01:55:29,689 --> 01:55:26,520
know who owns that Farmland presentation

2703
01:55:32,030 --> 01:55:29,699
so I've seen thousand things out there

2704
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,040
from time to time so I don't usually say

2705
01:55:36,350 --> 01:55:34,560
the specific mile marker because I don't

2706
01:55:39,290 --> 01:55:36,360
want people to go on that price Lane

2707
01:55:42,050 --> 01:55:39,300
sure but it's private property after all

2708
01:55:44,570 --> 01:55:42,060
we have to observe it

2709
01:55:54,590 --> 01:55:44,580
too and the museum still owns those

2710
01:56:00,350 --> 01:55:57,709
shelter was demolished in the 80s

2711
01:56:03,050 --> 01:56:00,360
the line still owns that lane

2712
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,060
so what happened was

2713
01:56:06,649 --> 01:56:05,520
the mind would smell the ore is a usable

2714
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:06,659
product

2715
01:56:10,250 --> 01:56:08,760
and whatever was not whatever was the

2716
01:56:12,590 --> 01:56:10,260
trash product

2717
01:56:14,750 --> 01:56:12,600
the whoever was left over like the trash

2718
01:56:16,129 --> 01:56:14,760
material they would dump in these piles

2719
01:56:18,530 --> 01:56:16,139
outside of town

2720
01:56:22,490 --> 01:56:18,540
and they have who knows how many piles

2721
01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:23,830
um

2722
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,360
so remember that so we got a specific

2723
01:56:32,510 --> 01:56:29,280
mile marker we drove out this mile

2724
01:56:34,910 --> 01:56:32,520
marker on this surface Road that's all

2725
01:56:37,250 --> 01:56:34,920
messed up

2726
01:56:38,629 --> 01:56:37,260
and the ground is kind of that light

2727
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:38,639
color I'm looking at a picture right now

2728
01:56:42,410 --> 01:56:40,080
that you have on there it shows like a

2729
01:56:44,209 --> 01:56:42,420
light colored gray dirt

2730
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:44,219
and keep is that the picture you have on

2731
01:56:48,770 --> 01:56:46,320
right now Stephen yeah I mean you gave

2732
01:56:51,229 --> 01:56:48,780
me four pictures of of uh you know

2733
01:56:53,330 --> 01:56:51,239
desert stuff I can cycle through them to

2734
01:56:54,830 --> 01:56:53,340
make sure we're sick we've already seen

2735
01:56:56,570 --> 01:56:54,840
all these pictures though I think people

2736
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:56,580
are getting very anxious and somebody is

2737
01:57:01,609 --> 01:56:59,280
asking you're you're saying that the

2738
01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:01,619
National Guard recovered this object you

2739
01:57:05,870 --> 01:57:04,080
have like on the record testimonies from

2740
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:05,880
those National Guard members that they

2741
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,159
recovered this strange object

2742
01:57:12,589 --> 01:57:10,800
some of them I do okay yeah I'm just

2743
01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:12,599
asking for my skeptical friend Gunner

2744
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:15,300
here who's a military man so he wants

2745
01:57:20,270 --> 01:57:16,320
you know

2746
01:57:22,129 --> 01:57:20,280
more than just your word

2747
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:22,139
like the road turns up ahead and it's

2748
01:57:25,550 --> 01:57:24,480
just like a light color novel like light

2749
01:57:27,229 --> 01:57:25,560
colored dirt

2750
01:57:29,870 --> 01:57:27,239
okay

2751
01:57:32,089 --> 01:57:29,880
when you're driving on the service road

2752
01:57:34,189 --> 01:57:32,099
and the the whole ground is kind of like

2753
01:57:36,109 --> 01:57:34,199
that life color and all of a sudden you

2754
01:57:38,330 --> 01:57:36,119
get to one spot in the road close to

2755
01:57:41,629 --> 01:57:38,340
that mile marker and it turns into a

2756
01:57:43,850 --> 01:57:41,639
dark copper colored strip

2757
01:57:48,109 --> 01:57:43,860
and I remember the first time we found

2758
01:57:48,119 --> 01:57:52,609
there we go go ahead I'm sorry

2759
01:57:56,330 --> 01:57:54,589
to your left when you get to this copper

2760
01:57:58,609 --> 01:57:56,340
colored strip of dirt you see that

2761
01:58:01,550 --> 01:57:58,619
indentation in the field

2762
01:58:03,290 --> 01:58:01,560
and then you see that copper colored

2763
01:58:05,209 --> 01:58:03,300
strip is it goes under the railroad

2764
01:58:07,550 --> 01:58:05,219
tracks and it kind of runs over to that

2765
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:07,560
area where that burn was destroyed Okay

2766
01:58:11,689 --> 01:58:09,119
so

2767
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:11,699
what happened was

2768
01:58:15,890 --> 01:58:13,679
object first like I was saying earlier

2769
01:58:17,629 --> 01:58:15,900
hit where that indentation is

2770
01:58:19,129 --> 01:58:17,639
and that's what in my opinion that's

2771
01:58:21,169 --> 01:58:19,139
what caused the indentation

2772
01:58:23,089 --> 01:58:21,179
you can see the telegraph poles in

2773
01:58:25,250 --> 01:58:23,099
either direction as far as you can see

2774
01:58:27,890 --> 01:58:25,260
in either direction until you get to

2775
01:58:30,350 --> 01:58:27,900
that spot the two telegraphicals are

2776
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,360
formed down looks like something ripped

2777
01:58:34,669 --> 01:58:32,880
them down or hit them or something

2778
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:34,679
um and then there's a picture I sent you

2779
01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:36,480
looks like a like a melted fence post

2780
01:58:46,189 --> 01:58:44,050
there was a there was small fence

2781
01:58:49,370 --> 01:58:46,199
keeping people from going into that

2782
01:58:51,290 --> 01:58:49,380
ditch and whatever hit down in that

2783
01:58:52,970 --> 01:58:51,300
ditch had tore through those telephone

2784
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:52,980
breath poles they're made out of wood

2785
01:58:57,229 --> 01:58:55,679
and then whatever it was a clean cut

2786
01:58:59,930 --> 01:58:57,239
across that fence

2787
01:59:03,109 --> 01:58:59,940
and that metal fence post if you look at

2788
01:59:04,850 --> 01:59:03,119
it it's almost melted it looks like it

2789
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:04,860
was like a clean cut that's for some

2790
01:59:08,689 --> 01:59:07,199
reason melted this metal fence post and

2791
01:59:09,649 --> 01:59:08,699
that's going up towards the railroad

2792
01:59:11,990 --> 01:59:09,659
track

2793
01:59:13,729 --> 01:59:12,000
yeah that picture that's my friend Nick

2794
01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:13,739
okay but just to be clear again because

2795
01:59:18,050 --> 01:59:15,679
I'm a little unclear on this I asked you

2796
01:59:20,450 --> 01:59:18,060
what happened to the bodies we've got

2797
01:59:23,330 --> 01:59:20,460
people saying they saw the bodies then

2798
01:59:25,550 --> 01:59:23,340
they see the the trains coming and the

2799
01:59:28,250 --> 01:59:25,560
you know National Guard there with

2800
01:59:29,810 --> 01:59:28,260
flatbeds and they're loading portions of

2801
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:29,820
this craft

2802
01:59:34,370 --> 01:59:32,159
into the flatbeds but what about the

2803
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:34,380
bodies the National Guard or military

2804
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,750
there and then they're the ones

2805
01:59:53,450 --> 01:59:47,390
okay and where did they go from there do

2806
01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:55,550
it was like an air force bomber training

2807
02:00:00,410 --> 01:59:58,320
area for the Korean War so they loaded

2808
02:00:02,750 --> 02:00:00,420
the bodies onto these bombers at Yellen

2809
02:00:04,250 --> 02:00:02,760
field and then from yellowfield I don't

2810
02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:04,260
know where they go

2811
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:06,480
but I do know they were taken onto some

2812
02:00:11,209 --> 02:00:08,639
kind of these bombers at gallons field

2813
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:11,219
and you have National Guardsmen who will

2814
02:00:16,189 --> 02:00:14,159
testify that they loaded what they

2815
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:16,199
believed to be alien bodies or something

2816
02:00:20,270 --> 02:00:18,000
like that

2817
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:20,280
guy the guy that runs the National Guard

2818
02:00:24,830 --> 02:00:22,560
group he was the one that told me like

2819
02:00:26,810 --> 02:00:24,840
what he was giving orders to do when he

2820
02:00:28,609 --> 02:00:26,820
got there and he was the one that said

2821
02:00:31,070 --> 02:00:28,619
they picked up the big pieces that they

2822
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:31,080
could that they could carry without I

2823
02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:32,639
guess without needing all kinds of power

2824
02:00:37,310 --> 02:00:34,560
tools and things and they put them all

2825
02:00:38,810 --> 02:00:37,320
into one big hunk of the metal I think

2826
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:38,820
the big piece of metal they put in a big

2827
02:00:42,350 --> 02:00:41,280
pile the body they kind of put side by

2828
02:00:45,229 --> 02:00:42,360
side

2829
02:00:47,330 --> 02:00:45,239
and I guess the wrapping crane was used

2830
02:00:49,490 --> 02:00:47,340
to pick up the big the whole the main

2831
02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:49,500
part that wasn't destroyed when the

2832
02:00:53,570 --> 02:00:51,119
military got there they used it to put

2833
02:00:56,510 --> 02:00:53,580
it on the truck

2834
02:00:57,709 --> 02:00:56,520
okay and you bet you have no idea what

2835
02:01:01,370 --> 02:00:57,719
happened to the bodies of The Craft

2836
02:01:06,350 --> 02:01:03,830
so again if this is

2837
02:01:08,750 --> 02:01:06,360
it disappearing these aliens

2838
02:01:10,669 --> 02:01:08,760
alien bodies and this is what is so

2839
02:01:13,189 --> 02:01:10,679
tantalizing to me about these stories

2840
02:01:15,050 --> 02:01:13,199
Jeremy because you know I'm not

2841
02:01:16,850 --> 02:01:15,060
discounting the witness testimony but

2842
02:01:18,470 --> 02:01:16,860
that what we always have and not just

2843
02:01:20,930 --> 02:01:18,480
these your the stories you've

2844
02:01:24,410 --> 02:01:20,940
investigated but many like Kecksburg and

2845
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:24,420
Roswell it just seems like the um the

2846
02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:27,119
the absolute Smoking Gun proof or

2847
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:29,280
evidence of these stories always seems

2848
02:01:34,370 --> 02:01:32,159
to elude us and we get penalizing maybe

2849
02:01:38,030 --> 02:01:34,380
proof and really convincing witness

2850
02:01:41,570 --> 02:01:38,040
testimony but then the the alien bodies

2851
02:01:44,330 --> 02:01:41,580
tissue samples the the technology the

2852
02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:44,340
craft always seems to disappear

2853
02:01:48,169 --> 02:01:46,080
into

2854
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:48,179
um some sort of government Black Vault

2855
02:01:52,870 --> 02:01:50,880
whether it be Area 51 some say whether

2856
02:01:57,649 --> 02:01:52,880
it be Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

2857
02:02:00,950 --> 02:01:57,659
and and the trail ends at the government

2858
02:02:02,930 --> 02:02:00,960
recovering this stuff and taking it away

2859
02:02:06,109 --> 02:02:02,940
have you asked the National Guard for

2860
02:02:11,169 --> 02:02:06,119
comment on this event or

2861
02:02:11,179 --> 02:02:20,149
what's that I'm sorry

2862
02:02:20,159 --> 02:02:38,050
hahaha

2863
02:02:41,990 --> 02:02:40,729
so I know he really was in the guard

2864
02:02:47,270 --> 02:02:42,000
group and he was the one that was

2865
02:02:51,950 --> 02:02:49,490
okay

2866
02:02:53,209 --> 02:02:51,960
so going back to the site

2867
02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:53,219
so

2868
02:02:58,850 --> 02:02:57,360
see the fence post and the telegraph

2869
02:03:01,070 --> 02:02:58,860
poles that are gone there's an

2870
02:03:04,430 --> 02:03:01,080
indentation in the ground there's the

2871
02:03:05,689 --> 02:03:04,440
copper colored strip under the track

2872
02:03:08,450 --> 02:03:05,699
then

2873
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:08,460
uh I told you that the Nevada North has

2874
02:03:13,070 --> 02:03:09,840
been not the Nevada Northern Railway

2875
02:03:15,350 --> 02:03:13,080
Canada dumped their waste product

2876
02:03:16,910 --> 02:03:15,360
in that big area next to the tracks and

2877
02:03:17,629 --> 02:03:16,920
it goes pretty much as far as you can

2878
02:03:19,010 --> 02:03:17,639
see

2879
02:03:21,290 --> 02:03:19,020
so

2880
02:03:23,390 --> 02:03:21,300
whatever that object was hit one of

2881
02:03:25,129 --> 02:03:23,400
those burn I call it a berm it's kind of

2882
02:03:28,729 --> 02:03:25,139
more like a sand pick sand pile but it's

2883
02:03:32,030 --> 02:03:28,739
piled up all the way down so that object

2884
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:32,040
destroyed the sand pile and I don't know

2885
02:03:38,450 --> 02:03:35,760
if that copper colored strip it looks

2886
02:03:40,669 --> 02:03:38,460
like someone repaired the repaired the

2887
02:03:43,129 --> 02:03:40,679
tracks in order to repair the tracks

2888
02:03:45,950 --> 02:03:43,139
they filled in the damaged area with

2889
02:03:47,209 --> 02:03:45,960
that dirt from those copper waste files

2890
02:03:51,109 --> 02:03:47,219
and

2891
02:03:52,790 --> 02:03:51,119
company were two separate entities they

2892
02:03:55,370 --> 02:03:52,800
weren't owned by the same people

2893
02:03:57,410 --> 02:03:55,380
so there was no there is no reason why

2894
02:03:59,330 --> 02:03:57,420
the train company would be taking

2895
02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:59,340
material owned by a sole separate

2896
02:04:03,229 --> 02:04:01,440
company and using it to repair their

2897
02:04:04,729 --> 02:04:03,239
railroad tracks and not to mention

2898
02:04:07,129 --> 02:04:04,739
there's chemicals from the from the

2899
02:04:09,950 --> 02:04:07,139
smelting process in the tiles of dirt

2900
02:04:10,910 --> 02:04:09,960
so there is no reason why that I could

2901
02:04:12,649 --> 02:04:10,920
thank them

2902
02:04:14,270 --> 02:04:12,659
unless you're doing something illegal

2903
02:04:15,950 --> 02:04:14,280
why they would be taking that dirt and

2904
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:15,960
filling in that area of the tracks

2905
02:04:20,030 --> 02:04:18,239
unless it was something like I said

2906
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:20,040
unless it was something extraordinary

2907
02:04:24,290 --> 02:04:22,080
like this or it was some kind of real

2908
02:04:25,490 --> 02:04:24,300
emergency

2909
02:04:29,149 --> 02:04:25,500
so

2910
02:04:31,970 --> 02:04:29,159
that definitely is the size

2911
02:04:33,890 --> 02:04:31,980
yeah we have a former military man who

2912
02:04:36,109 --> 02:04:33,900
says he never researched the Utah or

2913
02:04:37,129 --> 02:04:36,119
Nevada National Guard records for this

2914
02:04:39,229 --> 02:04:37,139
incident

2915
02:04:41,810 --> 02:04:39,239
that's a fair question but Gunner please

2916
02:04:44,270 --> 02:04:41,820
be more respectful with the guests you

2917
02:04:47,030 --> 02:04:44,280
know people uh some people here are very

2918
02:04:49,669 --> 02:04:47,040
we have a Jeremy you I I talk to you

2919
02:04:52,490 --> 02:04:49,679
about this we have a large Spectrum some

2920
02:04:54,950 --> 02:04:52,500
of the people that watch are are fervent

2921
02:04:57,350 --> 02:04:54,960
Believers in all all of this and some of

2922
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:57,360
them are art and Skeptics

2923
02:05:02,750 --> 02:04:59,760
and uh I'm sure you understand a

2924
02:05:05,030 --> 02:05:02,760
military man saying did you did you uh

2925
02:05:09,050 --> 02:05:05,040
research the Utah Nevada National air

2926
02:05:13,729 --> 02:05:11,270
um not the Air National Guard I the the

2927
02:05:15,350 --> 02:05:13,739
results not the result the records for

2928
02:05:17,089 --> 02:05:15,360
the Armory are in Healy though the

2929
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:17,099
Armory still exists and it was running

2930
02:05:22,609 --> 02:05:20,639
up until about 10 years ago

2931
02:05:24,830 --> 02:05:22,619
and that guy Steve I told you the one

2932
02:05:27,770 --> 02:05:24,840
that runs the radio station he was one

2933
02:05:31,850 --> 02:05:27,780
of the last commanders of that bar

2934
02:05:37,729 --> 02:05:33,830
know a lot of how they operate from him

2935
02:05:42,620 --> 02:05:39,410
with and I talked to the guy that ran

2936
02:05:43,790 --> 02:05:42,630
the guard unit in like the 50s and 60s

2937
02:05:46,370 --> 02:05:43,800
[Music]

2938
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:46,380
okay so but where does that leave us

2939
02:05:51,890 --> 02:05:48,719
with this case again

2940
02:05:54,109 --> 02:05:51,900
what do you think your conclusions are

2941
02:05:55,550 --> 02:05:54,119
based on interviewing you said 10

2942
02:06:01,970 --> 02:05:55,560
Witnesses

2943
02:06:03,830 --> 02:06:01,980
uh described the alien bodies to you in

2944
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,840
similar ways so

2945
02:06:07,490 --> 02:06:05,520
and you interviewed them separately

2946
02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:07,500
right like you didn't put them all in a

2947
02:06:12,350 --> 02:06:09,540
room together most of the stories about

2948
02:06:14,570 --> 02:06:12,360
as far as crash and the bodies and

2949
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:14,580
things that didn't come out until I

2950
02:06:18,350 --> 02:06:15,840
would say around the time I went on the

2951
02:06:20,629 --> 02:06:18,360
Art Bell show and so for the last couple

2952
02:06:22,070 --> 02:06:20,639
of years before that I was interviewing

2953
02:06:26,390 --> 02:06:22,080
Witnesses and things and a lot of them

2954
02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:27,350
um

2955
02:06:30,770 --> 02:06:28,860
so

2956
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:30,780
as far as the witnesses go that's not

2957
02:06:36,169 --> 02:06:33,360
the bodies I have about four people on

2958
02:06:38,390 --> 02:06:36,179
the train that's the reported body I

2959
02:06:39,530 --> 02:06:38,400
have the main National Guard guy that

2960
02:06:42,169 --> 02:06:39,540
was there

2961
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:42,179
I have

2962
02:06:45,169 --> 02:06:43,440
let me think

2963
02:06:46,490 --> 02:06:45,179
I forgot on the train I have the

2964
02:06:49,370 --> 02:06:46,500
National Guard the couple National

2965
02:06:50,990 --> 02:06:49,380
Guardsmen the most tantalizing witness

2966
02:06:53,870 --> 02:06:51,000
though is the guy that was leading the

2967
02:06:56,750 --> 02:06:53,880
National Guard but out the child I'll

2968
02:06:58,430 --> 02:06:56,760
show you after the show and I have the

2969
02:07:00,830 --> 02:06:58,440
female Ranchers

2970
02:07:02,930 --> 02:07:00,840
I have people that saw the trucks

2971
02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:02,940
leaving the leaving the road the service

2972
02:07:07,070 --> 02:07:04,920
road but they don't have the bodies that

2973
02:07:10,010 --> 02:07:07,080
they report having to crap on the trucks

2974
02:07:10,669 --> 02:07:10,020
bringing to Yellen field

2975
02:07:12,350 --> 02:07:10,679
um

2976
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:12,360
so I talked to quite a bit of people

2977
02:07:16,850 --> 02:07:15,119
it's not easy to find the witnesses

2978
02:07:18,109 --> 02:07:16,860
though like it's actually super hard to

2979
02:07:21,050 --> 02:07:18,119
find them especially something that

2980
02:07:24,649 --> 02:07:21,060
happened this long ago yeah yeah but so

2981
02:07:26,629 --> 02:07:24,659
I guess you know to to uh to we're over

2982
02:07:28,129 --> 02:07:26,639
time already but I I mean I could talk

2983
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:28,139
to you for another five hours about this

2984
02:07:34,910 --> 02:07:31,679
so what we have is two separate strange

2985
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:34,920
UFO crash events all within the same

2986
02:07:41,570 --> 02:07:38,880
area within a 20-year period and in both

2987
02:07:44,209 --> 02:07:41,580
cases it appears that witness witness

2988
02:07:46,609 --> 02:07:44,219
testimony would indicate that the

2989
02:07:49,070 --> 02:07:46,619
government swooped in like in many other

2990
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:49,080
cases like Kecksburg and Roswell cleaned

2991
02:07:54,350 --> 02:07:51,840
up all the debris interviewed Witnesses

2992
02:07:56,270 --> 02:07:54,360
in some cases may be intimidated people

2993
02:07:59,089 --> 02:07:56,280
into silence

2994
02:08:05,450 --> 02:07:59,099
uh took the wreckage the bodies whatever

2995
02:08:05,460 --> 02:08:08,390
that's cool

2996
02:08:10,669 --> 02:08:09,410
um mentioned I don't know if you need to

2997
02:08:12,470 --> 02:08:10,679
end the show right now if I could say

2998
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:12,480
like one or two more things yeah no sure

2999
02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:22,250
at least three or four UFO and Flash

3000
02:08:27,890 --> 02:08:24,719
investigators I you said that for some

3001
02:08:31,310 --> 02:08:27,900
reason they don't know why but some they

3002
02:08:34,490 --> 02:08:31,320
think that those radar Towers possibly

3003
02:08:36,589 --> 02:08:34,500
cause these UFOs to crash so the first

3004
02:08:38,089 --> 02:08:36,599
one I think crashed is by pure chance up

3005
02:08:39,530 --> 02:08:38,099
there this other one I think has

3006
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,540
something to do with that radar power

3007
02:08:42,830 --> 02:08:42,000
yeah and just so just so everybody's

3008
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,840
aware

3009
02:08:47,149 --> 02:08:44,400
Hospital sir yeah and just so

3010
02:08:49,970 --> 02:08:47,159
everybody's aware there have been claims

3011
02:08:52,910 --> 02:08:49,980
that these high power radar stations

3012
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:52,920
somehow interfered with these UFO craft

3013
02:08:59,089 --> 02:08:57,119
in the case of Roswell and Aztec stories

3014
02:09:00,410 --> 02:08:59,099
and somehow caused them to crash you

3015
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:00,420
believe that may have had something to

3016
02:09:12,530 --> 02:09:10,430
saved one more he meant that happened if

3017
02:09:15,470 --> 02:09:12,540
you want me to say another time or yeah

3018
02:09:17,229 --> 02:09:15,480
quickly sure we'll conclude that

3019
02:09:20,629 --> 02:09:17,239
I'll try to do a quick version of this

3020
02:09:24,589 --> 02:09:20,639
so I got calls when I was in the evening

3021
02:09:26,089 --> 02:09:24,599
Daily Times paper again uh I guess in

3022
02:09:28,250 --> 02:09:26,099
the winter this makes this goes along

3023
02:09:28,970 --> 02:09:28,260
with with the lights going out in the

3024
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:28,980
mine

3025
02:09:33,950 --> 02:09:32,400
in the 1970s I guess this happened on a

3026
02:09:36,169 --> 02:09:33,960
winter night during the graveyard shift

3027
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:36,179
in the late 70s

3028
02:09:39,770 --> 02:09:38,159
I guess the story was given to me by

3029
02:09:41,629 --> 02:09:39,780
some Hall truck drivers and some

3030
02:09:45,229 --> 02:09:41,639
mechanics and welders over at the mine

3031
02:09:47,209 --> 02:09:45,239
over in Ely okay uh the specifics where

3032
02:09:49,490 --> 02:09:47,219
I'm gonna say is from one of the mine

3033
02:09:52,850 --> 02:09:49,500
Haul truck drivers points of view

3034
02:09:54,530 --> 02:09:52,860
he says that he was he was at work one

3035
02:09:56,930 --> 02:09:54,540
day at the graveyard shift and he said

3036
02:09:58,310 --> 02:09:56,940
the lights shut off in the morning and

3037
02:10:00,649 --> 02:09:58,320
he said a few minutes later they came

3038
02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:00,659
back on and I guess everyone kind of

3039
02:10:04,490 --> 02:10:02,880
shrugged it off and kept working well I

3040
02:10:05,930 --> 02:10:04,500
guess the Mundelein shut up a second

3041
02:10:09,890 --> 02:10:05,940
time

3042
02:10:11,209 --> 02:10:09,900
came back on again and then the foreman

3043
02:10:13,669 --> 02:10:11,219
that was running the mine started

3044
02:10:15,950 --> 02:10:13,679
telling people they needed to go home so

3045
02:10:18,050 --> 02:10:15,960
the majority of the miners go up the

3046
02:10:19,970 --> 02:10:18,060
lights shut off again

3047
02:10:21,770 --> 02:10:19,980
and this keeps happening with a shutting

3048
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:21,780
on and off periodically

3049
02:10:26,089 --> 02:10:24,239
and this Foreman starts getting mad he

3050
02:10:27,530 --> 02:10:26,099
says you need to leave

3051
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:27,540
and then he starts raising his voice

3052
02:10:31,070 --> 02:10:29,040
start saying well you need to leave then

3053
02:10:32,750 --> 02:10:31,080
he says well okay well you guys only to

3054
02:10:34,910 --> 02:10:32,760
the point to where he starts yelling at

3055
02:10:36,169 --> 02:10:34,920
these these workers

3056
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:36,179
so

3057
02:10:38,810 --> 02:10:37,679
they get in their truck and they start

3058
02:10:40,729 --> 02:10:38,820
leaving

3059
02:10:43,310 --> 02:10:40,739
and the hollow truck driver is in the

3060
02:10:44,990 --> 02:10:43,320
truck and he says they're rough roughly

3061
02:10:48,109 --> 02:10:45,000
about

3062
02:10:51,709 --> 02:10:48,119
mile and a half two miles from the mine

3063
02:10:53,089 --> 02:10:51,719
and he says suddenly I guess they pulled

3064
02:10:56,209 --> 02:10:53,099
over on the side of the road because

3065
02:10:59,089 --> 02:10:56,219
they saw what looked like a glowing disc

3066
02:11:02,209 --> 02:10:59,099
came from Duck free which is on the

3067
02:11:04,430 --> 02:11:02,219
other side from Ely it came from duckery

3068
02:11:06,050 --> 02:11:04,440
and landed in the mining set didn't

3069
02:11:09,649 --> 02:11:06,060
crash it landed

3070
02:11:11,870 --> 02:11:09,659
and how big was the mine how big was the

3071
02:11:14,570 --> 02:11:11,880
mine entrance that a flying spaceship

3072
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:14,580
could land inside it it might massive

3073
02:11:18,589 --> 02:11:16,320
it's the second biggest copper mine in

3074
02:11:21,410 --> 02:11:18,599
the country oh okay what about the

3075
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:21,420
entrance to the mine have you seen that

3076
02:11:30,770 --> 02:11:28,010
the entrance itself but

3077
02:11:32,810 --> 02:11:30,780
so this object or this is straight this

3078
02:11:34,250 --> 02:11:32,820
this is something kind of different from

3079
02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:34,260
what I just mentioned but it'll make

3080
02:11:38,810 --> 02:11:36,480
sense in just a moment so this object

3081
02:11:40,970 --> 02:11:38,820
doesn't crash it lands in the mind and

3082
02:11:42,530 --> 02:11:40,980
the guy says within several minutes he

3083
02:11:45,109 --> 02:11:42,540
says there's helicopters are coming over

3084
02:11:47,810 --> 02:11:45,119
the mountain and they land in the mine

3085
02:11:49,609 --> 02:11:47,820
behind this object almost like they were

3086
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:49,619
tracking it or like they knew this thing

3087
02:11:52,010 --> 02:11:51,119
was coming

3088
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:52,020
um

3089
02:11:57,530 --> 02:11:54,560
in about two or three days later

3090
02:11:59,629 --> 02:11:57,540
the object was seen being carried off in

3091
02:12:01,729 --> 02:11:59,639
broad daylight kind of double-bladed

3092
02:12:03,109 --> 02:12:01,739
helicopter with some passports he said

3093
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:03,119
they weren't trying to hide it all

3094
02:12:07,310 --> 02:12:05,280
everyone in downtown B we saw this thing

3095
02:12:09,649 --> 02:12:07,320
so whatever it was I think it was

3096
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:09,659
man-made whatever

3097
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:12,000
I don't think that was something alien

3098
02:12:16,189 --> 02:12:14,159
but he said that they were carrying it

3099
02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:16,199
south of town and south of town is

3100
02:12:19,129 --> 02:12:17,940
roughly where Area 51 and so I don't

3101
02:12:20,990 --> 02:12:19,139
know if that's really brought it but

3102
02:12:22,430 --> 02:12:21,000
that seems to be what the witnesses

3103
02:12:23,870 --> 02:12:22,440
thinking

3104
02:12:25,850 --> 02:12:23,880
um he said they were told not to go to

3105
02:12:28,070 --> 02:12:25,860
work for two weeks and the military

3106
02:12:30,169 --> 02:12:28,080
showed up periodically all winter long

3107
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:30,179
he said doing different tests in the

3108
02:12:33,430 --> 02:12:32,159
area

3109
02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:33,440
so

3110
02:12:38,030 --> 02:12:35,760
do you what what leads you to believe

3111
02:12:40,669 --> 02:12:38,040
that these other two crashes were aliens

3112
02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:40,679
but this one was uh some sort of

3113
02:12:44,870 --> 02:12:42,239
human-made craft

3114
02:12:47,510 --> 02:12:44,880
the thing that I can't get past is the

3115
02:12:49,609 --> 02:12:47,520
one had like the weird molten metal

3116
02:12:51,290 --> 02:12:49,619
stuff that was Dripping

3117
02:12:54,109 --> 02:12:51,300
the other one they reported the alien

3118
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:55,669
bullet area is right on it and they were

3119
02:12:59,629 --> 02:12:58,079
there so quick I don't know I they would

3120
02:13:02,030 --> 02:12:59,639
have to be tracking it somehow or in

3121
02:13:03,050 --> 02:13:02,040
Communications with if it was a man-made

3122
02:13:04,970 --> 02:13:03,060
object

3123
02:13:07,129 --> 02:13:04,980
the thing is like I said this is a big

3124
02:13:08,350 --> 02:13:07,139
mountainous area yeah and just going to

3125
02:13:11,930 --> 02:13:08,360
crash landing

3126
02:13:13,550 --> 02:13:11,940
just to be clear people are uh just to

3127
02:13:15,770 --> 02:13:13,560
be clear Jeremy people are sending me

3128
02:13:17,930 --> 02:13:15,780
pictures of of what appears to be UFOs

3129
02:13:19,550 --> 02:13:17,940
on the back of a flatbed I can't verify

3130
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:19,560
the authenticity of it but this one's

3131
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:22,800
from Bill you house and a quote quote

3132
02:13:27,470 --> 02:13:25,440
UFO was hauled like a house captain bill

3133
02:13:29,390 --> 02:13:27,480
you house I don't know what case this is

3134
02:13:33,530 --> 02:13:29,400
from or if it's a real picture I'm

3135
02:13:35,569 --> 02:13:33,540
giving you my uh buyer beware warning

3136
02:13:38,689 --> 02:13:35,579
but at least there's some sort of

3137
02:13:41,450 --> 02:13:38,699
imagery and we've seen images even

3138
02:13:44,750 --> 02:13:41,460
though many may have been artist images

3139
02:13:48,169 --> 02:13:44,760
of the Kecksburg crash being hauled away

3140
02:13:50,569 --> 02:13:48,179
on a flatbed and Roswell and other

3141
02:13:55,850 --> 02:13:50,579
crashes apparently being hauled away on

3142
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:58,370
yeah

3143
02:14:03,290 --> 02:14:01,440
so I guess object like I said I don't

3144
02:14:04,970 --> 02:14:03,300
I don't necessarily I didn't do as much

3145
02:14:06,169 --> 02:14:04,980
research into this case as the other two

3146
02:14:08,629 --> 02:14:06,179
but I thought that was kind of full

3147
02:14:10,669 --> 02:14:08,639
worth noting because it sounds like to

3148
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:10,679
me that this was something man-made and

3149
02:14:13,729 --> 02:14:12,000
if you were going to do a controlled

3150
02:14:15,169 --> 02:14:13,739
Landing or a crash of some kind you

3151
02:14:16,490 --> 02:14:15,179
would want to go near that copper mine

3152
02:14:18,169 --> 02:14:16,500
that's one of the only areas that's not

3153
02:14:20,149 --> 02:14:18,179
covered in Boulders and trees and things

3154
02:14:22,729 --> 02:14:20,159
because you're high in the mountain

3155
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:25,490
so so that one you investigated and

3156
02:14:29,810 --> 02:14:27,679
thought it was something Earthly for

3157
02:14:31,490 --> 02:14:29,820
what I thought was Earth

3158
02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:31,500
but I thought the most powerful story

3159
02:14:36,109 --> 02:14:34,440
though yes and it is clearly established

3160
02:14:38,330 --> 02:14:36,119
is that you don't jump right to aliens

3161
02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:38,340
for every case like like many would I

3162
02:14:41,209 --> 02:14:39,119
suppose

3163
02:14:43,069 --> 02:14:41,219
like to note that I don't I know I don't

3164
02:14:45,950 --> 02:14:43,079
know if you're witness did your

3165
02:14:48,410 --> 02:14:45,960
listeners notice but I know if I don't

3166
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:48,420
have like lots of evidence the fruit

3167
02:14:52,189 --> 02:14:50,159
just use this or this definition

3168
02:14:54,530 --> 02:14:52,199
for if I don't have proof for instance

3169
02:14:56,030 --> 02:14:54,540
of the guy working at Harry 51 I'll

3170
02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:56,040
usually tell you as long as I remember

3171
02:15:00,589 --> 02:14:58,800
I'll tell you yeah no it's important to

3172
02:15:03,890 --> 02:15:00,599
establish it's important to establish

3173
02:15:06,109 --> 02:15:03,900
and and for for those unaware having

3174
02:15:08,750 --> 02:15:06,119
looked into his work and his research I

3175
02:15:12,649 --> 02:15:08,760
I you know B Baker mentioned this

3176
02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,659
in the live chat and that is the mark of

3177
02:15:17,450 --> 02:15:14,400
a grifter is that they don't have a real

3178
02:15:19,569 --> 02:15:17,460
job outside of this and they're always

3179
02:15:22,069 --> 02:15:19,579
trying to push something and make money

3180
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:22,079
selling the stories that they're pushing

3181
02:15:26,810 --> 02:15:24,239
you haven't done that you've got a real

3182
02:15:28,430 --> 02:15:26,820
job you've spent your own money to

3183
02:15:30,649 --> 02:15:28,440
investigate these things and try to get

3184
02:15:33,470 --> 02:15:30,659
to the proof of them oh yeah and your

3185
02:15:35,330 --> 02:15:33,480
own time and largely except for some

3186
02:15:37,970 --> 02:15:35,340
guest appearances where you're talking

3187
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:37,980
about your research in these events I

3188
02:15:44,750 --> 02:15:41,040
just don't see the grift angle from you

3189
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:44,760
so far but Jeremy I reserve the right if

3190
02:15:49,129 --> 02:15:47,280
I find out your Grifton buddy I'm gonna

3191
02:15:51,770 --> 02:15:49,139
let everybody know because that's what

3192
02:15:53,930 --> 02:15:51,780
we do here but you know that

3193
02:15:56,330 --> 02:15:53,940
oh yeah I I do

3194
02:15:59,209 --> 02:15:56,340
sometimes

3195
02:16:01,550 --> 02:15:59,219
no no no it's fine and you can but you

3196
02:16:04,510 --> 02:16:01,560
know I I want to clearly establish to

3197
02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:04,520
people listening and watching that

3198
02:16:10,250 --> 02:16:08,159
you're a little you're uh uh you know a

3199
02:16:11,629 --> 02:16:10,260
bird of a different feather here than

3200
02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:11,639
we're used to

3201
02:16:15,890 --> 02:16:14,400
because you know one can understand if

3202
02:16:18,109 --> 02:16:15,900
somebody doesn't have a real job and

3203
02:16:21,050 --> 02:16:18,119
they gotta sell UFO stories to make

3204
02:16:23,450 --> 02:16:21,060
money they fight fast and loose with the

3205
02:16:25,850 --> 02:16:23,460
facts they lie by Omission for example

3206
02:16:28,010 --> 02:16:25,860
when you admit it that you hadn't

3207
02:16:29,569 --> 02:16:28,020
verified this person worked at Area 51

3208
02:16:31,850 --> 02:16:29,579
for sure but this is a story you were

3209
02:16:33,950 --> 02:16:31,860
told you admitted that a grifter would

3210
02:16:36,290 --> 02:16:33,960
have just not even mentioned that just

3211
02:16:38,509 --> 02:16:36,300
said yeah yeah he worked at Area 51 and

3212
02:16:39,169 --> 02:16:38,519
he told me he handled pieces of that you

3213
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:39,179
know

3214
02:16:44,270 --> 02:16:42,240
oh yeah and and and and sometimes I'm a

3215
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,280
victim of my own

3216
02:16:49,849 --> 02:16:46,800
yeah and sometimes here we are a victim

3217
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:49,859
of our own making or you know devising

3218
02:16:56,629 --> 02:16:53,519
here uh I encourage everybody to be very

3219
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:56,639
skeptical but sometimes people uh take

3220
02:17:00,110 --> 02:16:58,559
it a little too far and they aren't very

3221
02:17:02,509 --> 02:17:00,120
kind to the guests and if that happened

3222
02:17:04,370 --> 02:17:02,519
tonight I do apologize to you and we're

3223
02:17:06,770 --> 02:17:04,380
trying to get people to keep an open

3224
02:17:09,709 --> 02:17:06,780
mind be kind to the guests even if you

3225
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:09,719
disagree with them uh but everybody's

3226
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:11,760
used to pouncing on the grifters so

3227
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,160
maybe that's part of it too you know I

3228
02:17:18,889 --> 02:17:16,800
don't get that from Jeremy so far he's

3229
02:17:22,129 --> 02:17:18,899
been very honest with me both on air

3230
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:22,139
tonight and off air and with you our our

3231
02:17:26,929 --> 02:17:24,000
viewers you know and that's all we can

3232
02:17:29,450 --> 02:17:26,939
do and I understand people are maybe

3233
02:17:31,129 --> 02:17:29,460
frustrated because of this what I talked

3234
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:31,139
about we have this tantalizing maybe

3235
02:17:35,389 --> 02:17:33,359
proof tantalizing maybe evidence

3236
02:17:38,209 --> 02:17:35,399
tantalizing witness testimony but

3237
02:17:40,969 --> 02:17:38,219
nothing physical solid no no images no

3238
02:17:43,610 --> 02:17:40,979
videos no we don't get the Smoking Gun

3239
02:17:44,570 --> 02:17:43,620
in the in these stories but people are

3240
02:17:48,469 --> 02:17:44,580
free to

3241
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,479
to look at the evidence and and decide

3242
02:17:52,610 --> 02:17:50,399
where it leads them and what they

3243
02:17:55,129 --> 02:17:52,620
believe happened here but it is a great

3244
02:17:57,230 --> 02:17:55,139
mystery Jeremy both of these are and I

3245
02:18:08,349 --> 02:17:57,240
love all of them I I love great

3246
02:18:13,490 --> 02:18:10,549
incidents I have a lot of information on

3247
02:18:15,530 --> 02:18:13,500
this I try to do

3248
02:18:17,389 --> 02:18:15,540
um other UFO crashes like I said not all

3249
02:18:19,070 --> 02:18:17,399
of them are alien stuff I do admit that

3250
02:18:21,950 --> 02:18:19,080
I don't want everyone thinking I think

3251
02:18:26,209 --> 02:18:21,960
everything is aliens sure yeah that's

3252
02:18:28,370 --> 02:18:26,219
fair yeah yeah so Linda Moulton Howe

3253
02:18:30,589 --> 02:18:28,380
called me out so

3254
02:18:31,969 --> 02:18:30,599
her thing is about 100 miles from this

3255
02:18:33,290 --> 02:18:31,979
so I think one of the next ones I'm

3256
02:18:35,570 --> 02:18:33,300
going to spend some time doing I'm going

3257
02:18:37,849 --> 02:18:35,580
to try to look into that oh and can we

3258
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:37,859
tell can we tell people about your plans

3259
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:40,080
with this lindemone house story because

3260
02:18:45,589 --> 02:18:43,200
I think this is this no let me let me

3261
02:18:47,209 --> 02:18:45,599
say something first so for those unaware

3262
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:47,219
and just to recap

3263
02:18:54,169 --> 02:18:50,880
uh Jeremy has spent years of his life

3264
02:18:56,509 --> 02:18:54,179
his own money thousands of dollars and

3265
02:19:00,349 --> 02:18:56,519
he's interviewed like 50 people about

3266
02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:00,359
these UFO crashes first first year

3267
02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:02,639
George Knapp says you won't find any

3268
02:19:07,790 --> 02:19:06,000
evidence it's all a myth then Jeremy

3269
02:19:09,889 --> 02:19:07,800
goes on Art Bell and starts telling the

3270
02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:09,899
story of his research and including

3271
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:12,240
things like witness names and testimony

3272
02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:16,080
and and then somehow Art Bell says he's

3273
02:19:20,810 --> 02:19:18,660
giving this story to a real researcher

3274
02:19:23,270 --> 02:19:20,820
Linda Moulton Howe who he worked with

3275
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:23,280
and God bless our Bell I love him but

3276
02:19:28,910 --> 02:19:26,639
this is wacky then Linda monhell takes

3277
02:19:32,209 --> 02:19:28,920
the story and somehow changes it to the

3278
02:19:33,770 --> 02:19:32,219
to a story about a 130 foot UFO that

3279
02:19:36,589 --> 02:19:33,780
crashed in the desert and all these

3280
02:19:39,770 --> 02:19:36,599
people got shovels and dug a huge hole

3281
02:19:41,389 --> 02:19:39,780
and put the UFO or the spaceship into

3282
02:19:44,330 --> 02:19:41,399
into this huge hole and she even

3283
02:19:46,129 --> 02:19:44,340
identified with an x on a map where the

3284
02:19:47,410 --> 02:19:46,139
UFO was buried

3285
02:19:49,429 --> 02:19:47,420
and this

3286
02:19:52,490 --> 02:19:49,439
latitude yes

3287
02:19:55,010 --> 02:19:52,500
there yes and she so so basically she

3288
02:19:57,950 --> 02:19:55,020
took she took Jeremy's research and his

3289
02:19:59,570 --> 02:19:57,960
story and she bastardized the story to

3290
02:20:02,750 --> 02:19:59,580
tell some other story that has nothing

3291
02:20:04,969 --> 02:20:02,760
to do with the truth of these cases and

3292
02:20:07,070 --> 02:20:04,979
she claims to this day I remember her

3293
02:20:08,090 --> 02:20:07,080
telling the story that the UFO to this

3294
02:20:10,849 --> 02:20:08,100
day

3295
02:20:12,370 --> 02:20:10,859
is still buried out there in the desert

3296
02:20:16,070 --> 02:20:12,380
and so

3297
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:16,080
Jeremy has a plan to see if we can do

3298
02:20:20,690 --> 02:20:18,000
something about Linda Moulton Howe and

3299
02:20:23,090 --> 02:20:20,700
her story of the 130 foot spaceship

3300
02:20:25,250 --> 02:20:23,100
buried in the desert that she did give

3301
02:20:28,310 --> 02:20:25,260
the location for right Jeremy she gave

3302
02:20:32,510 --> 02:20:28,320
the longitude and latitude yeah

3303
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:36,170
tell people

3304
02:20:36,180 --> 02:20:39,190
yes

3305
02:20:50,990 --> 02:20:41,510
so wait a minute wait a minute wait a

3306
02:20:54,309 --> 02:20:52,670
and see if there's anything under the

3307
02:20:56,750 --> 02:20:54,319
ground

3308
02:20:58,429 --> 02:20:56,760
so you heard it here first friends

3309
02:21:10,910 --> 02:20:58,439
another

3310
02:21:16,010 --> 02:21:14,270
yes so just to be clear friends we have

3311
02:21:18,170 --> 02:21:16,020
another true Seekers exclusive story

3312
02:21:20,510 --> 02:21:18,180
because I've already made Jeremy promise

3313
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:20,520
that if he indeed gets the ground

3314
02:21:24,530 --> 02:21:22,560
penetrating radar and goes out to where

3315
02:21:26,570 --> 02:21:24,540
Linda Moulton house swore there was an

3316
02:21:28,670 --> 02:21:26,580
alien spaceship buried in the desert

3317
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:28,680
with x marks the spot and here's the

3318
02:21:32,030 --> 02:21:30,479
longitude and here's the latitude and

3319
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,040
the GPS coordinates of where the

3320
02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:35,040
spaceship got buried Jeremy's going out

3321
02:21:41,150 --> 02:21:38,700
there with ground penetrating radar and

3322
02:21:44,929 --> 02:21:41,160
he is going to come back here once he's

3323
02:21:47,389 --> 02:21:44,939
done that and Report the results and see

3324
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:47,399
if he can find Linda Milton House alien

3325
02:22:04,010 --> 02:22:01,670
she made him up she makes up fake

3326
02:22:06,170 --> 02:22:04,020
sources but I can't wait we're gonna get

3327
02:22:08,330 --> 02:22:06,180
the ground penetrating radar that's

3328
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:08,340
either going to prove or disprove that

3329
02:22:15,050 --> 02:22:12,000
Linda's story is fake we'll prove it

3330
02:22:17,270 --> 02:22:15,060
either way and Jeremy if you if you do

3331
02:22:19,130 --> 02:22:17,280
happen to find an alien spaceship I get

3332
02:22:21,950 --> 02:22:19,140
the exclusive story on that [\h__\h] too

3333
02:22:24,349 --> 02:22:21,960
because that would be some views I want

3334
02:22:26,809 --> 02:22:24,359
it I want the story either way and

3335
02:22:29,630 --> 02:22:26,819
Jeremy kindly has agreed that he's going

3336
02:22:31,790 --> 02:22:29,640
to do this friends this is something he

3337
02:22:33,710 --> 02:22:31,800
is going to take a story

3338
02:22:36,170 --> 02:22:33,720
oh that's a great story a great

3339
02:22:38,330 --> 02:22:36,180
interview he is going to take he's going

3340
02:22:40,370 --> 02:22:38,340
to take Linda moltenham's word for for

3341
02:22:42,050 --> 02:22:40,380
rare x marks the spot where that

3342
02:22:44,330 --> 02:22:42,060
spaceship was buried and we're going to

3343
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:44,340
find out if we can catch Linda mon Howe

3344
02:22:50,270 --> 02:22:48,240
selling yet another 100 fake story

3345
02:22:51,889 --> 02:22:50,280
confidence it's there why is it why

3346
02:22:54,290 --> 02:22:51,899
didn't she do the ground penetrating

3347
02:22:56,630 --> 02:22:54,300
radar why didn't she I dude if I really

3348
02:22:59,330 --> 02:22:56,640
thought I knew exactly where a spaceship

3349
02:23:01,910 --> 02:22:59,340
was buried I would go out there with a

3350
02:23:02,570 --> 02:23:01,920
freaking shovel the next day that's you

3351
02:23:05,570 --> 02:23:02,580
know

3352
02:23:08,210 --> 02:23:05,580
did you ever hear about the alien and uh

3353
02:23:09,590 --> 02:23:08,220
buried in Aurora Texas or the legends of

3354
02:23:12,590 --> 02:23:09,600
it

3355
02:23:15,290 --> 02:23:12,600
dude I don't know how nobody has taken a

3356
02:23:16,849 --> 02:23:15,300
shovel and tried to bury dig it up but

3357
02:23:19,150 --> 02:23:16,859
apparently it was moved or something

3358
02:23:21,530 --> 02:23:19,160
According to Jim Mars yeah

3359
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:21,540
why didn't Linda mode help go out there

3360
02:23:31,210 --> 02:23:23,280
with a shovel and show us the spaceship

3361
02:23:31,220 --> 02:23:43,309
no my pleasure go ahead sure this

3362
02:23:46,670 --> 02:23:44,750
is this you want to be a speaker for our

3363
02:23:48,889 --> 02:23:46,680
conference just write us an email you

3364
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:48,899
know you could be the next speaker

3365
02:23:53,570 --> 02:23:51,359
okay let's ride them so I sent them an

3366
02:23:55,610 --> 02:23:53,580
email probably about a week ago they

3367
02:23:57,889 --> 02:23:55,620
write me back saying you might be what

3368
02:23:59,929 --> 02:23:57,899
we're looking for for a conference

3369
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,939
speaker and then they said well contact

3370
02:24:04,130 --> 02:24:01,439
basically they gave you that we're not

3371
02:24:06,050 --> 02:24:04,140
going to talk to the fu email

3372
02:24:08,690 --> 02:24:06,060
and I started looking at the speakers

3373
02:24:10,490 --> 02:24:08,700
last year's guest speaker was Jimmy

3374
02:24:11,330 --> 02:24:10,500
church was the I know the way he's

3375
02:24:15,770 --> 02:24:11,340
talking about I didn't know what you

3376
02:24:19,730 --> 02:24:18,170
then I start reading the speaker from

3377
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:19,740
this year one of the speakers was

3378
02:24:24,290 --> 02:24:21,600
talking about oh Star Wars compares to

3379
02:24:26,929 --> 02:24:24,300
real life and artificial intelligence

3380
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:26,939
aliens and stuff I was like wait you're

3381
02:24:31,250 --> 02:24:28,800
taking these guys stories and me I got

3382
02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:31,260
what I just told you about a crashed UFO

3383
02:24:35,630 --> 02:24:33,840
they don't want credible researchers

3384
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:35,640
might be what you're looking for no they

3385
02:24:38,929 --> 02:24:37,200
don't want credible researchers Jeremy

3386
02:24:46,670 --> 02:24:38,939
they want fairy tale Hucks during

3387
02:24:51,410 --> 02:24:48,889
just pay for my gas and I was like and I

3388
02:24:53,090 --> 02:24:51,420
I even got I I hate to sound cocky but

3389
02:24:54,830 --> 02:24:53,100
my story will blow out there's all the

3390
02:24:57,530 --> 02:24:54,840
water and they don't want me to speak

3391
02:25:00,770 --> 02:24:57,540
for them I was like okay then

3392
02:25:03,469 --> 02:25:00,780
yeah well imagine imagine if I messaged

3393
02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:03,479
them hi I want to do a I want to do a

3394
02:25:07,309 --> 02:25:05,520
two-hour talk about how most of the

3395
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,319
people talking about this stuff are

3396
02:25:12,050 --> 02:25:09,359
fairy tale huckster and grifter con

3397
02:25:14,570 --> 02:25:12,060
artists and I can prove it and I can

3398
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:14,580
prove it and see what they say yes send

3399
02:25:20,750 --> 02:25:18,240
me the link uh for listen for a goof for

3400
02:25:23,090 --> 02:25:20,760
a good friends I am going to apply to be

3401
02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:23,100
a speaker at the UFO Mega conference and

3402
02:25:27,349 --> 02:25:24,960
I'm going to tell them that I'm going to

3403
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,359
do a two-hour talk about what con

3404
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:29,760
artists and scammers most of the people

3405
02:25:34,250 --> 02:25:31,920
selling alien stories are and I can

3406
02:25:36,590 --> 02:25:34,260
prove it with facts and evidence and I

3407
02:25:38,929 --> 02:25:36,600
can talk about how people knowingly work

3408
02:25:41,450 --> 02:25:38,939
with child rapists and child molesters

3409
02:25:44,090 --> 02:25:41,460
and murderers to sell fake alien stories

3410
02:25:46,370 --> 02:25:44,100
and of course Stolen Valor frauds that's

3411
02:25:48,770 --> 02:25:46,380
big Jeremy you've got to have a guy who

3412
02:25:50,330 --> 02:25:48,780
pretends he was a Navy SEAL or a marine

3413
02:25:52,490 --> 02:25:50,340
when he wasn't

3414
02:25:53,990 --> 02:25:52,500
yeah you know actually I think they do

3415
02:25:54,830 --> 02:25:54,000
actually

3416
02:25:55,550 --> 02:25:54,840
actionables or whatever you want

3417
02:25:57,710 --> 02:25:55,560
whatever you want to call it in

3418
02:26:01,070 --> 02:25:57,720
Pennsylvania every year so if they

3419
02:26:04,610 --> 02:26:02,150
know

3420
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:04,620
Cosmic neighbors my friend here Jeremy

3421
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:06,960
said application denied laugh out loud

3422
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:17,270
no and you know what listen uh people

3423
02:26:20,690 --> 02:26:18,960
are saying that somebody should help you

3424
02:26:22,610 --> 02:26:20,700
organize your research I don't know if

3425
02:26:25,309 --> 02:26:22,620
I'm the right guy to do that but I could

3426
02:26:27,530 --> 02:26:25,319
write I could write about this and

3427
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:27,540
include a lot of your imagery and and

3428
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:30,720
and parts of it and and maybe it'll be a

3429
02:26:35,090 --> 02:26:33,120
little more succinct or uh you know like

3430
02:26:37,730 --> 02:26:35,100
concise but listen you've been doing

3431
02:26:39,950 --> 02:26:37,740
this for years it's easy to get a little

3432
02:26:43,969 --> 02:26:39,960
brain fog about all this and trying to

3433
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:43,979
keep all this all this stuff straight

3434
02:26:48,050 --> 02:26:46,319
I have my laptop computer I have like

3435
02:26:49,250 --> 02:26:48,060
five spiral notebooks it's handwritten

3436
02:26:50,990 --> 02:26:49,260
notes I'm like they can throw these

3437
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:51,000
papers and stuff but I've been talking

3438
02:26:53,929 --> 02:26:52,560
that's why sometimes it seems like I go

3439
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:53,939
all over them no I think these might

3440
02:26:57,290 --> 02:26:55,920
make a good idea for a documentary and

3441
02:26:58,730 --> 02:26:57,300
I'll talk to you about that off air

3442
02:27:01,910 --> 02:26:58,740
because we'll be getting into true

3443
02:27:04,010 --> 02:27:01,920
Seekers presents soon with several

3444
02:27:07,010 --> 02:27:04,020
different projects and I would certainly

3445
02:27:12,170 --> 02:27:07,020
uh be willing to dig in more to this and

3446
02:27:17,450 --> 02:27:14,270
not very many people I think that know

3447
02:27:19,190 --> 02:27:17,460
more about UFO crashes in Nevada than me

3448
02:27:20,809 --> 02:27:19,200
I was like that's always like if you

3449
02:27:24,530 --> 02:27:20,819
they want to go at it but I don't really

3450
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,450
okay so this is just two of the things

3451
02:27:30,730 --> 02:27:28,319
I've investigated they have a bunch more

3452
02:27:33,290 --> 02:27:30,740
without bunch I have like five more

3453
02:27:35,030 --> 02:27:33,300
alleged UFO crashes that turned out the

3454
02:27:37,370 --> 02:27:35,040
other things

3455
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:37,380
like chasing cars and stuff that's what

3456
02:27:41,389 --> 02:27:38,640
I was like if they want to challenge me

3457
02:27:43,309 --> 02:27:41,399
on this I was like I don't know if Linda

3458
02:27:47,150 --> 02:27:43,319
knows really who she's challenging yeah

3459
02:27:49,670 --> 02:27:47,160
and then next time though we

3460
02:27:52,010 --> 02:27:49,680
have to get we have to get Jeremy a

3461
02:27:53,870 --> 02:27:52,020
computer that's newer so that he can do

3462
02:27:55,550 --> 02:27:53,880
the stream with no issues I don't know

3463
02:27:58,190 --> 02:27:55,560
if it was your internet connection or

3464
02:28:01,309 --> 02:27:58,200
the older laptop you were trying to use

3465
02:28:03,230 --> 02:28:01,319
but we'll get it squared away and next

3466
02:28:05,150 --> 02:28:03,240
time you know because honestly people

3467
02:28:08,870 --> 02:28:05,160
don't like these call-ins they're like

3468
02:28:10,610 --> 02:28:08,880
what is this 1996 you know but we did

3469
02:28:13,010 --> 02:28:10,620
the best we could we roll with the

3470
02:28:14,809 --> 02:28:13,020
punches here Jeremy technical problems

3471
02:28:17,330 --> 02:28:14,819
happen we still were able to do the show

3472
02:28:19,550 --> 02:28:17,340
and I'm thankful that we could have this

3473
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:19,560
talk and share it for all of my uh

3474
02:28:23,630 --> 02:28:22,080
friends here and and I hope that you

3475
02:28:25,490 --> 02:28:23,640
come back and don't be a stranger and

3476
02:28:27,710 --> 02:28:25,500
we'll be in touch

3477
02:28:30,170 --> 02:28:27,720
you uh I have a couple ideas for

3478
02:28:32,150 --> 02:28:30,180
something I'll you know sure excellent

3479
02:28:33,889 --> 02:28:32,160
okay all right I'm gonna hang up on you

3480
02:28:35,690 --> 02:28:33,899
now and do a quick wrap up we're already

3481
02:28:37,370 --> 02:28:35,700
into overtime but thank you for doing

3482
02:28:39,650 --> 02:28:37,380
this I appreciate it

3483
02:28:41,090 --> 02:28:39,660
all right thank you Jeremy all right

3484
02:28:43,309 --> 02:28:41,100
bye-bye

3485
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:43,319
all right friends so there we have it

3486
02:28:48,889 --> 02:28:45,600
Against All Odds it didn't seem like

3487
02:28:51,889 --> 02:28:48,899
this was going to happen tonight uh we

3488
02:28:54,770 --> 02:28:51,899
will uh like I said we roll with the

3489
02:28:57,170 --> 02:28:54,780
punches let me take that banner down we

3490
02:29:00,290 --> 02:28:57,180
will check in with Our Kind and Generous

3491
02:29:01,730 --> 02:29:00,300
benefactors tonight uh for those unaware

3492
02:29:05,210 --> 02:29:01,740
you can support the show through either

3493
02:29:07,010 --> 02:29:05,220
uh the Super Chat super stickers you

3494
02:29:10,370 --> 02:29:07,020
could become a member we shout out all

3495
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:10,380
the members channel members here and uh

3496
02:29:14,809 --> 02:29:12,720
we read each and every single Super Chat

3497
02:29:16,670 --> 02:29:14,819
we thank everybody for their kindness

3498
02:29:18,469 --> 02:29:16,680
their generosity and their support of

3499
02:29:21,110 --> 02:29:18,479
the show

3500
02:29:24,349 --> 02:29:21,120
um and I will have some comments uh

3501
02:29:27,710 --> 02:29:24,359
about some other things but I you know I

3502
02:29:30,889 --> 02:29:27,720
think we want to keep the show uh on

3503
02:29:33,650 --> 02:29:30,899
topic so I'm sure that many of you would

3504
02:29:35,630 --> 02:29:33,660
like me to discuss this situation with

3505
02:29:37,969 --> 02:29:35,640
third phase of moon attempting to stop

3506
02:29:39,950 --> 02:29:37,979
everyone from seeing a recently released

3507
02:29:41,150 --> 02:29:39,960
documentary about them

3508
02:29:43,309 --> 02:29:41,160
but

3509
02:29:46,250 --> 02:29:43,319
I think I will do that as a separate

3510
02:29:48,050 --> 02:29:46,260
stream uh especially considering that

3511
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:48,060
people are right now spreading more

3512
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:51,359
false uh rumors and slanderous

3513
02:29:57,050 --> 02:29:54,720
accusations so we did read all the super

3514
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:57,060
chats so far and it was just spooky who

3515
02:30:03,410 --> 02:30:00,720
sent uh two dollars Great Britain pounds

3516
02:30:05,770 --> 02:30:03,420
and said it was a meteor in the kitchen

3517
02:30:09,889 --> 02:30:05,780
with a UFO crash

3518
02:30:12,170 --> 02:30:09,899
okay uh yes and uh one other thing that

3519
02:30:13,130 --> 02:30:12,180
we will do which we were we're gonna try

3520
02:30:16,550 --> 02:30:13,140
to do

3521
02:30:18,349 --> 02:30:16,560
with every show now and that is to shout

3522
02:30:20,929 --> 02:30:18,359
out and thank all of our channel members

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I'm working on a way to be able to also

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shout out and thank all of our patreon

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so if you would like to be recognized as

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I'm a patreon supporter Stephen add me

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3532
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generosity and continuing support of the

3548
02:31:27,290 --> 02:31:25,080
show it is much much appreciated I've

3549
02:31:30,910 --> 02:31:27,300
got a bit more time to share with you

3550
02:31:34,010 --> 02:31:30,920
even though we're way over time as well

3551
02:31:36,710 --> 02:31:34,020
I uh who will take any comments or

3552
02:31:40,010 --> 02:31:36,720
questions from the live chat while I

3553
02:31:42,170 --> 02:31:40,020
remind you of two things first if you're

3554
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listening an audio podcast and we love

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and appreciate you but you're missing

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3557
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you to be included in that so if you've

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been listening to the audio podcast you

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02:31:55,849 --> 02:31:53,640
are listening to a recorded version of

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02:32:22,610 --> 02:32:20,880
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3570
02:32:25,670 --> 02:32:22,620
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3571
02:32:27,170 --> 02:32:25,680
cambian go to that Channel smash the

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Subscribe button hit the notification

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3583
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3584
02:33:02,990 --> 02:33:00,540
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3585
02:33:04,610 --> 02:33:03,000
can't do it without you members of the

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3597
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want you to do that we welcome all new

3598
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3600
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can also support us uh via PayPal or

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3602
02:33:43,610 --> 02:33:40,920
or excuse me the instructions to do that

3603
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is in the description of this video and

3604
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we love and appreciate all your support

3605
02:33:52,730 --> 02:33:50,340
that enables us to do the show on unlike

3606
02:33:57,530 --> 02:33:52,740
what some idiots will tell you

3607
02:33:59,809 --> 02:33:57,540
I have uh you know a business uh with my

3608
02:34:01,670 --> 02:33:59,819
own income and none of the money here is

3609
02:34:02,870 --> 02:34:01,680
used for anything other than to support

3610
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:02,880
the show

3611
02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:05,040
I'm aware that somebody's trying to

3612
02:34:09,230 --> 02:34:06,720
spread rumors that I'm doing things like

3613
02:34:11,809 --> 02:34:09,240
buy gifts for my children with it or

3614
02:34:14,090 --> 02:34:11,819
something and that's nonsensical garbage

3615
02:34:16,250 --> 02:34:14,100
and I'll talk more about that on a

3616
02:34:19,130 --> 02:34:16,260
separate stream we want to thank Mike

3617
02:34:22,130 --> 02:34:19,140
Kane for a Kind and Generous 10 PayPal

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02:34:23,690 --> 02:34:22,140
pledge uh which he made yesterday right

3619
02:34:25,550 --> 02:34:23,700
at the end of the show I wasn't able to

3620
02:34:28,730 --> 02:34:25,560
shout it out and just a reminder to

3621
02:34:33,710 --> 02:34:28,740
everyone that if we should happen to

3622
02:34:37,010 --> 02:34:33,720
miss your uh your kind pledge or super

3623
02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:37,020
chat or becoming a patreon supporter or

3624
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:38,880
becoming a channel member just let me

3625
02:34:44,510 --> 02:34:41,760
know if I did we you know mistakes

3626
02:34:47,330 --> 02:34:44,520
happen we are make it a point we are

3627
02:34:50,090 --> 02:34:47,340
very very focused on thanking our

3628
02:34:52,790 --> 02:34:50,100
supporters on the air with the live

3629
02:34:55,130 --> 02:34:52,800
broadcasts and uh letting people know

3630
02:34:58,190 --> 02:34:55,140
who is supporting us and thanking them

3631
02:34:59,929 --> 02:34:58,200
occasionally somebody will uh send a

3632
02:35:01,849 --> 02:34:59,939
pledge or a super chat or something like

3633
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:01,859
that right at the end of a show in which

3634
02:35:06,770 --> 02:35:04,560
case the very next show so we recognize

3635
02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:06,780
and thank them so Mike came yesterday at

3636
02:35:11,690 --> 02:35:08,880
the tail end of the show

3637
02:35:13,790 --> 02:35:11,700
um he sent a Kind and Generous 10 uh

3638
02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:13,800
PayPal and again instructions if you're

3639
02:35:17,870 --> 02:35:16,080
feeling generous to do that or in the in

3640
02:35:20,270 --> 02:35:17,880
the description of the video the other

3641
02:35:21,889 --> 02:35:20,280
thing I would be sure I must be sure to

3642
02:35:25,790 --> 02:35:21,899
mention is

3643
02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:25,800
that it's not just money that you can

3644
02:35:32,450 --> 02:35:29,520
support us with it is also just as

3645
02:35:34,849 --> 02:35:32,460
important if not more some would say if

3646
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:34,859
you're into social media marketing and

3647
02:35:40,550 --> 02:35:36,960
marketing efforts it's very very

3648
02:35:42,469 --> 02:35:40,560
important that you can also support us

3649
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:42,479
be sure you're aware you can also

3650
02:35:46,490 --> 02:35:44,399
support us by liking commenting

3651
02:35:49,730 --> 02:35:46,500
subscribing and sharing these videos

3652
02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:49,740
especially on your social media send one

3653
02:35:53,690 --> 02:35:51,600
of these videos to someone you know who

3654
02:35:57,050 --> 02:35:53,700
likes these strange and esoteric topics

3655
02:35:59,389 --> 02:35:57,060
ask them to become a subscriber I would

3656
02:36:02,210 --> 02:35:59,399
sincerely sincerely appreciate it is

3657
02:36:04,429 --> 02:36:02,220
only with the help of the generous help

3658
02:36:06,950 --> 02:36:04,439
of so many of you and I do see you

3659
02:36:10,190 --> 02:36:06,960
people who are retweeting the show

3660
02:36:12,170 --> 02:36:10,200
uh or reposting it on Facebook when you

3661
02:36:14,929 --> 02:36:12,180
see me posting it sharing it on Facebook

3662
02:36:18,170 --> 02:36:14,939
I see you I love you and I appreciate

3663
02:36:20,030 --> 02:36:18,180
all of you helping us to spread the show

3664
02:36:22,130 --> 02:36:20,040
um and also

3665
02:36:24,889 --> 02:36:22,140
um we have been broadcasting at 9 00 PM

3666
02:36:26,929 --> 02:36:24,899
Monday through Thursday sometimes a few

3667
02:36:28,309 --> 02:36:26,939
shows on the weekend if I have time as

3668
02:36:31,670 --> 02:36:28,319
well

3669
02:36:33,650 --> 02:36:31,680
um we do that Monday through for sure

3670
02:36:34,969 --> 02:36:33,660
Monday through Thursday at 9 00 PM but

3671
02:36:36,730 --> 02:36:34,979
we're also throwing in a couple of

3672
02:36:41,450 --> 02:36:36,740
weekend shows usually some extra

3673
02:36:44,809 --> 02:36:41,460
production uh pieces as well and

3674
02:36:46,910 --> 02:36:44,819
um it's also uh you know

3675
02:36:49,070 --> 02:36:46,920
I'm not sure what's going to happen with

3676
02:36:51,349 --> 02:36:49,080
the schedule of the show but the best

3677
02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:51,359
way to know about when the live shows

3678
02:36:57,830 --> 02:36:55,439
take place is to follow me uh it's just

3679
02:37:00,650 --> 02:36:57,840
my name at Stephen Camby and you see it

3680
02:37:02,750 --> 02:37:00,660
right there on the screen no space at

3681
02:37:06,290 --> 02:37:02,760
Stephen cambian on Twitter

3682
02:37:08,210 --> 02:37:06,300
and I tweet before every show usually a

3683
02:37:09,530 --> 02:37:08,220
few hours I'm trying to get better and

3684
02:37:11,210 --> 02:37:09,540
uh people are telling me I should do it

3685
02:37:13,550 --> 02:37:11,220
days in advance like I should put the

3686
02:37:15,230 --> 02:37:13,560
whole shows live stream schedule up on

3687
02:37:17,750 --> 02:37:15,240
Monday for Monday Tuesday Wednesday

3688
02:37:19,670 --> 02:37:17,760
Thursday or whatever I'm gonna try that

3689
02:37:21,290 --> 02:37:19,680
and we'll see if that's maybe a little

3690
02:37:23,450 --> 02:37:21,300
bit more effective so that people are

3691
02:37:25,309 --> 02:37:23,460
aware of when we are broadcasting and

3692
02:37:30,469 --> 02:37:25,319
when you can catch us live but you can

3693
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,479
always catch the uh replays on either uh

3694
02:37:34,610 --> 02:37:32,880
we're all over anywhere you can you can

3695
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:34,620
get an audio podcast just search for

3696
02:37:38,270 --> 02:37:36,720
truth Seekers the audio podcast is

3697
02:37:40,910 --> 02:37:38,280
always a week or a little more behind

3698
02:37:42,889 --> 02:37:40,920
we're trying to do better with that but

3699
02:37:44,750 --> 02:37:42,899
you can always catch the replays if you

3700
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:44,760
missed the live broadcast on Twitter

3701
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:48,240
it's truth Seekers on Twitter just put

3702
02:37:52,670 --> 02:37:50,160
it in the search bar you'll find us and

3703
02:37:55,550 --> 02:37:52,680
see the latest shows we present our

3704
02:37:56,510 --> 02:37:55,560
shows in chronological order

3705
02:37:59,030 --> 02:37:56,520
um

3706
02:38:00,710 --> 02:37:59,040
now I am going to save most of what I

3707
02:38:02,809 --> 02:38:00,720
have to say about this situation with

3708
02:38:04,610 --> 02:38:02,819
third phase and moon and uh Rich from

3709
02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:04,620
Grifton

3710
02:38:10,070 --> 02:38:06,720
um I'm going to save most of that but I

3711
02:38:13,010 --> 02:38:10,080
am going to uh I am going to mention one

3712
02:38:16,309 --> 02:38:13,020
thing and that is that we

3713
02:38:18,349 --> 02:38:16,319
I posted the first of many many links uh

3714
02:38:19,969 --> 02:38:18,359
let's be clear when people try to step

3715
02:38:20,929 --> 02:38:19,979
all over

3716
02:38:23,090 --> 02:38:20,939
um

3717
02:38:24,710 --> 02:38:23,100
when people try to Stomp all over free

3718
02:38:28,250 --> 02:38:24,720
speech to

3719
02:38:30,170 --> 02:38:28,260
in my opinion hide their Dirty Deeds it

3720
02:38:34,370 --> 02:38:30,180
only backfires on them

3721
02:38:37,969 --> 02:38:34,380
and you know trying to hard strike a

3722
02:38:42,070 --> 02:38:37,979
YouTube channel uh who is clearly using

3723
02:38:44,030 --> 02:38:42,080
uh clips from third phase of moon in

3724
02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:44,040
fair use

3725
02:38:51,230 --> 02:38:49,200
created this documentary that everybody

3726
02:38:53,510 --> 02:38:51,240
is now talking about thanks to third

3727
02:38:55,490 --> 02:38:53,520
phase of moon trying to stop people from

3728
02:38:57,110 --> 02:38:55,500
hearing about it saying it or talking

3729
02:38:59,809 --> 02:38:57,120
about it

3730
02:39:03,170 --> 02:38:59,819
um the person who made that documentary

3731
02:39:05,090 --> 02:39:03,180
did so uh and he did use clips of third

3732
02:39:07,849 --> 02:39:05,100
phase of moon after all if you're gonna

3733
02:39:10,190 --> 02:39:07,859
try to uh display that somebody is

3734
02:39:12,050 --> 02:39:10,200
creating hoaxes

3735
02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:12,060
um you're gonna have to show clips and

3736
02:39:18,530 --> 02:39:14,160
then explain how they created the hoaxes

3737
02:39:20,809 --> 02:39:18,540
he did put a um a

3738
02:39:22,130 --> 02:39:20,819
fair use disclaimer right at the

3739
02:39:23,990 --> 02:39:22,140
beginning of the film

3740
02:39:25,309 --> 02:39:24,000
and it says very clearly right at the

3741
02:39:27,950 --> 02:39:25,319
beginning of the film

3742
02:39:32,210 --> 02:39:27,960
uh here we're gonna share it here and

3743
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:32,220
one other one other thing I have to make

3744
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:35,040
sure that we are aware of

3745
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:36,720
yeah so

3746
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:39,120
for those unaware what happened is the

3747
02:39:44,690 --> 02:39:41,760
third phase of moon hard striked the

3748
02:39:47,990 --> 02:39:44,700
channel to have the channel uh to have

3749
02:39:50,750 --> 02:39:48,000
the video the documentary of this third

3750
02:39:52,910 --> 02:39:50,760
phase documentary which details over 30

3751
02:39:54,469 --> 02:39:52,920
hoaxes that they have perpetrated

3752
02:39:57,050 --> 02:39:54,479
against

3753
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:57,060
the public and especially the UFO

3754
02:40:00,230 --> 02:39:59,040
Community or people interested in UFOs

3755
02:40:02,750 --> 02:40:00,240
or aliens

3756
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,760
they hard strike the channel and for

3757
02:40:06,650 --> 02:40:04,319
those unaware what that means is that

3758
02:40:09,530 --> 02:40:06,660
YouTube will just delete the whole video

3759
02:40:12,309 --> 02:40:09,540
off the channel uh you can appeal it and

3760
02:40:14,929 --> 02:40:12,319
I am going to walk sapien's culture

3761
02:40:16,849 --> 02:40:14,939
cultures the

3762
02:40:18,889 --> 02:40:16,859
um the person who created the

3763
02:40:21,410 --> 02:40:18,899
documentary I'm going to help him to

3764
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:21,420
file a counter notification

3765
02:40:26,030 --> 02:40:24,240
which will argue fair use it's very

3766
02:40:28,190 --> 02:40:26,040
clear that what this documentary

3767
02:40:30,830 --> 02:40:28,200
filmmaker did is considered fair use

3768
02:40:33,410 --> 02:40:30,840
because if you are trying to educate the

3769
02:40:35,389 --> 02:40:33,420
public and it's a transformative work

3770
02:40:38,210 --> 02:40:35,399
and you were using those clips for

3771
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:38,220
educational purposes that tips the the

3772
02:40:42,050 --> 02:40:40,319
balance in favor of fair use and most

3773
02:40:44,750 --> 02:40:42,060
courts in the United States and

3774
02:40:46,790 --> 02:40:44,760
throughout the world honestly will allow

3775
02:40:48,770 --> 02:40:46,800
for fair use but third phase of moon

3776
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:48,780
decided that they were going to

3777
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:51,600
hard strike that channel get that video

3778
02:40:56,270 --> 02:40:54,240
removed from YouTube based on quote

3779
02:40:57,950 --> 02:40:56,280
copyright infringement

3780
02:40:59,809 --> 02:40:57,960
these people don't care about copyright

3781
02:41:01,730 --> 02:40:59,819
infringement and in fact both third

3782
02:41:03,710 --> 02:41:01,740
phase of moon and Rich from goofan

3783
02:41:06,889 --> 02:41:03,720
especially share other people's video

3784
02:41:09,170 --> 02:41:06,899
clips all the time and cite fair use but

3785
02:41:10,910 --> 02:41:09,180
somehow when somebody uses third phase

3786
02:41:13,849 --> 02:41:10,920
Clips to prove that they have been

3787
02:41:17,230 --> 02:41:13,859
faking things and defrauding the public

3788
02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:17,240
with fake UFO and alien videos for years

3789
02:41:25,130 --> 02:41:21,359
uh they are going to claim copyright and

3790
02:41:28,010 --> 02:41:25,140
get the video taken down from YouTube so

3791
02:41:29,750 --> 02:41:28,020
because of that we developed a plan to

3792
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:29,760
make sure that you the viewers would

3793
02:41:34,550 --> 02:41:31,920
still be able to see it I stand by that

3794
02:41:37,190 --> 02:41:34,560
plan and I stand by my vigorous defense

3795
02:41:38,389 --> 02:41:37,200
of free speech and of the fair use

3796
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:38,399
concept

3797
02:41:44,570 --> 02:41:39,840
so

3798
02:41:47,870 --> 02:41:44,580
is that

3799
02:41:50,809 --> 02:41:47,880
I uh have publicly released one video

3800
02:41:53,389 --> 02:41:50,819
link this is on

3801
02:41:55,250 --> 02:41:53,399
Odyssey and we can see that clearly in

3802
02:41:58,670 --> 02:41:55,260
the beginning of the video

3803
02:42:00,410 --> 02:41:58,680
the filmmaker put a disclaimer in which

3804
02:42:03,170 --> 02:42:00,420
says copyright disclaimer under Section

3805
02:42:05,330 --> 02:42:03,180
107 of the Copyright Act of 1976.

3806
02:42:07,309 --> 02:42:05,340
allowances made for fair use for

3807
02:42:09,290 --> 02:42:07,319
purposes such as criticism comment news

3808
02:42:12,410 --> 02:42:09,300
reporting teaching scholarship Education

3809
02:42:14,990 --> 02:42:12,420
and Research fair use

3810
02:42:17,090 --> 02:42:15,000
is a use permitted by copyright statute

3811
02:42:19,190 --> 02:42:17,100
that might otherwise be infringing in

3812
02:42:22,190 --> 02:42:19,200
other words he's not infringing on

3813
02:42:25,630 --> 02:42:22,200
anybody's copyright and the fact that

3814
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:25,640
they are claiming that he is is garbage

3815
02:42:31,010 --> 02:42:28,560
these people third phase of moon have

3816
02:42:33,290 --> 02:42:31,020
been caught literally taking other

3817
02:42:36,349 --> 02:42:33,300
people's videos without permission and

3818
02:42:38,270 --> 02:42:36,359
posting them to their YouTube channel

3819
02:42:41,389 --> 02:42:38,280
I don't understand how they can claim

3820
02:42:43,429 --> 02:42:41,399
copyrights or be suddenly so concerned

3821
02:42:45,710 --> 02:42:43,439
with their own copyrights when they're

3822
02:42:48,110 --> 02:42:45,720
never concerned with anyone else's and

3823
02:42:50,450 --> 02:42:48,120
both they and Rich from goofan post all

3824
02:42:53,210 --> 02:42:50,460
kinds of other people's content talking

3825
02:42:55,610 --> 02:42:53,220
over it in the spirit of fair use which

3826
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:55,620
is the way it's supposed to be but they

3827
02:42:59,510 --> 02:42:58,560
struck this filmmakers film off of

3828
02:43:02,030 --> 02:42:59,520
YouTube

3829
02:43:03,710 --> 02:43:02,040
I think that's unfair and we were going

3830
02:43:05,570 --> 02:43:03,720
to broadcast get broadcast broadcast it

3831
02:43:07,849 --> 02:43:05,580
here but if we do it's very likely that

3832
02:43:10,730 --> 02:43:07,859
they will hard strike my channel which

3833
02:43:14,210 --> 02:43:10,740
will result in me having to defend

3834
02:43:17,570 --> 02:43:14,220
um fair use and and all of that which

3835
02:43:18,349 --> 02:43:17,580
you know takes a long time and it's very

3836
02:43:20,210 --> 02:43:18,359
um

3837
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:20,220
you know I have to file letters and

3838
02:43:24,410 --> 02:43:22,319
paperwork so I've chosen not to share it

3839
02:43:26,510 --> 02:43:24,420
on YouTube instead

3840
02:43:27,530 --> 02:43:26,520
um we've developed a plan and in this

3841
02:43:29,389 --> 02:43:27,540
plan

3842
02:43:31,370 --> 02:43:29,399
many many people from all over the

3843
02:43:34,490 --> 02:43:31,380
Internet are participating and they are

3844
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:34,500
taking this very very important

3845
02:43:39,889 --> 02:43:37,439
documentary film which clearly proves

3846
02:43:41,630 --> 02:43:39,899
and establishes that third phase is

3847
02:43:43,370 --> 02:43:41,640
lying when they say they haven't faked

3848
02:43:46,070 --> 02:43:43,380
anything in five years and so is Rich

3849
02:43:48,530 --> 02:43:46,080
from goofan it very clearly establishes

3850
02:43:52,250 --> 02:43:48,540
that those people uh are not to be

3851
02:43:55,429 --> 02:43:52,260
trusted uh this documentary film is well

3852
02:43:59,690 --> 02:43:55,439
produced and it details over 30

3853
02:44:01,730 --> 02:43:59,700
different fake videos and hoaxes that uh

3854
02:44:04,250 --> 02:44:01,740
third phase have put up on their channel

3855
02:44:05,450 --> 02:44:04,260
that rich from goofan has somehow

3856
02:44:07,309 --> 02:44:05,460
defended

3857
02:44:10,910 --> 02:44:07,319
uh and there's a lot more to get into

3858
02:44:12,650 --> 02:44:10,920
but it's enough to say that I want to

3859
02:44:15,050 --> 02:44:12,660
thank each and every one of you who game

3860
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:15,060
Who suddenly became a part of something

3861
02:44:20,090 --> 02:44:17,040
that we're calling the fourth phase of

3862
02:44:22,550 --> 02:44:20,100
Truth operation fourth phase of Truth is

3863
02:44:24,410 --> 02:44:22,560
in full effect because other people

3864
02:44:27,950 --> 02:44:24,420
don't like people trying to stop people

3865
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:27,960
from seeing a documentary uh which is

3866
02:44:32,870 --> 02:44:30,479
clearly legally produced

3867
02:44:34,730 --> 02:44:32,880
uh for and of course they did that for

3868
02:44:37,790 --> 02:44:34,740
selfish reasons friends they don't want

3869
02:44:39,410 --> 02:44:37,800
you to see this they do not want anybody

3870
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:39,420
to see this video

3871
02:44:44,809 --> 02:44:41,520
and it's interesting that rich cannot

3872
02:44:46,969 --> 02:44:44,819
defend any points raised in the video he

3873
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:46,979
cannot talk about the evidence presented

3874
02:44:53,809 --> 02:44:50,640
in this uh well made documentary that

3875
02:44:58,370 --> 02:44:53,819
shows over 30 different uh fake videos

3876
02:45:00,530 --> 02:44:58,380
that third phase has been involved in

3877
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,540
and the proof of all of that

3878
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:03,120
there's more and I will go into more

3879
02:45:10,250 --> 02:45:06,960
details on a separate stream but uh

3880
02:45:12,530 --> 02:45:10,260
earlier today I posted the first of we

3881
02:45:17,270 --> 02:45:12,540
have now I think we have something like

3882
02:45:20,330 --> 02:45:17,280
50 links to this documentary uh from all

3883
02:45:23,150 --> 02:45:20,340
different users that volunteered to help

3884
02:45:25,969 --> 02:45:23,160
be sure that people could see this video

3885
02:45:28,730 --> 02:45:25,979
so people are taking this documentary

3886
02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:28,740
and posting it on Alternate video

3887
02:45:36,950 --> 02:45:31,920
platforms like you uh everything but

3888
02:45:40,250 --> 02:45:36,960
YouTube like uh Rumble and bit shoot and

3889
02:45:43,610 --> 02:45:40,260
in this case Odyssey uh I posted the

3890
02:45:47,870 --> 02:45:43,620
first of those 50 links we have uh

3891
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:47,880
today and so far over 325 people I

3892
02:45:53,510 --> 02:45:50,160
believe have already seen this

3893
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:53,520
documentary so it's very important to

3894
02:45:57,410 --> 02:45:54,960
understand something called the the

3895
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:57,420
Streisand Effect and third phase of moon

3896
02:46:01,730 --> 02:45:59,760
attempting to stop people from seeing

3897
02:46:04,309 --> 02:46:01,740
this is only going to make people it's

3898
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:04,319
going to backfire and it is and it has

3899
02:46:09,650 --> 02:46:06,479
already begun it is only making people

3900
02:46:11,690 --> 02:46:09,660
more curious why would they go to such

3901
02:46:15,050 --> 02:46:11,700
lengths to try to stop people from

3902
02:46:17,090 --> 02:46:15,060
seeing this well I am inviting everyone

3903
02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:17,100
to go to my Twitter it's at Stephen

3904
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:19,680
cambian I don't even want to post links

3905
02:46:22,790 --> 02:46:21,120
here because I could be accused of

3906
02:46:24,710 --> 02:46:22,800
copyright infringement or supporting

3907
02:46:26,630 --> 02:46:24,720
whatever you know they're going to try

3908
02:46:29,270 --> 02:46:26,640
to twist things but you can go to my

3909
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:29,280
Twitter it's at Stephen cambian and at

3910
02:46:34,250 --> 02:46:31,439
the very top of my Twitter profile I

3911
02:46:37,070 --> 02:46:34,260
have pinned The Odyssey link and by the

3912
02:46:39,770 --> 02:46:37,080
way I want to thank Julian Chandra of

3913
02:46:42,349 --> 02:46:39,780
Odyssey for supporting free speech and

3914
02:46:47,870 --> 02:46:42,359
offering an alternative platform to

3915
02:46:50,809 --> 02:46:47,880
other platforms that may not support

3916
02:46:55,130 --> 02:46:50,819
um as may not

3917
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:55,140
be as uh good at supporting

3918
02:47:00,950 --> 02:46:57,840
free speech and I can say a lot about

3919
02:47:03,170 --> 02:47:00,960
that but I won't the the important part

3920
02:47:04,730 --> 02:47:03,180
is that we've already we've only put up

3921
02:47:07,670 --> 02:47:04,740
one link so far

3922
02:47:09,830 --> 02:47:07,680
and people all over are taking that

3923
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:09,840
video that documentary that very

3924
02:47:14,090 --> 02:47:11,520
important work

3925
02:47:16,010 --> 02:47:14,100
that proves a lot of what I've been

3926
02:47:18,590 --> 02:47:16,020
saying for a long time and by the way

3927
02:47:21,469 --> 02:47:18,600
one of the reasons that I was so adamant

3928
02:47:23,870 --> 02:47:21,479
about third phase uh faking things

3929
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:23,880
recently and faking things since they

3930
02:47:28,370 --> 02:47:25,920
started and never changing is because I

3931
02:47:31,309 --> 02:47:28,380
was in communication with this filmmaker

3932
02:47:33,230 --> 02:47:31,319
for quite some time I was aware of his

3933
02:47:35,210 --> 02:47:33,240
Reddit posts and I'll be sharing those

3934
02:47:37,610 --> 02:47:35,220
as well so if people want to dig deeper

3935
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:37,620
into the evidence presented in the

3936
02:47:44,150 --> 02:47:41,520
documentary it's all on Reddit and now

3937
02:47:46,030 --> 02:47:44,160
because of the selfish accent actions of

3938
02:47:49,610 --> 02:47:46,040
the cousins Brothers

3939
02:47:52,550 --> 02:47:49,620
trying to censor get this video removed

3940
02:47:54,830 --> 02:47:52,560
so no one could see it more people

3941
02:47:57,530 --> 02:47:54,840
will be curious more people will want to

3942
02:48:00,170 --> 02:47:57,540
see this very important documentary and

3943
02:48:02,690 --> 02:48:00,180
when I tell you that it's very important

3944
02:48:05,809 --> 02:48:02,700
I I can't stress that enough it's very

3945
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:05,819
important that we stand on the side of

3946
02:48:12,650 --> 02:48:08,880
free speech truth the right to criticize

3947
02:48:14,270 --> 02:48:12,660
people the right to reveal hoaxes the

3948
02:48:17,210 --> 02:48:14,280
right to show people the truth when

3949
02:48:20,510 --> 02:48:17,220
other people are using deception and

3950
02:48:22,550 --> 02:48:20,520
manipulation and click bait and all

3951
02:48:26,330 --> 02:48:22,560
kinds of deceptive tactics it's

3952
02:48:28,790 --> 02:48:26,340
important that we stand firm in our

3953
02:48:31,969 --> 02:48:28,800
righteousness it is a righteous thing to

3954
02:48:35,090 --> 02:48:31,979
do to help this filmmaker make sure his

3955
02:48:37,730 --> 02:48:35,100
voice does not get stomped out here for

3956
02:48:39,530 --> 02:48:37,740
selfish reasons I stand behind him I

3957
02:48:42,650 --> 02:48:39,540
stand behind the evidence he presented

3958
02:48:43,790 --> 02:48:42,660
and uh of course Rich from Groupon

3959
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:43,800
doesn't want to talk about all the

3960
02:48:49,849 --> 02:48:46,319
evidence in that documentary he wants to

3961
02:48:52,510 --> 02:48:49,859
invent new lies about me and try to

3962
02:48:55,969 --> 02:48:52,520
slander me damage my reputation again

3963
02:48:58,730 --> 02:48:55,979
people see through that and that too

3964
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:58,740
will backfire and I will do a separate

3965
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:01,920
stream about all of this people want to

3966
02:49:07,309 --> 02:49:04,560
hear about this and maybe we'll have a

3967
02:49:09,410 --> 02:49:07,319
discussion about free speech about the

3968
02:49:12,110 --> 02:49:09,420
information presented in the documentary

3969
02:49:14,090 --> 02:49:12,120
but I challenge anybody

3970
02:49:15,830 --> 02:49:14,100
that doesn't believe the things that

3971
02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:15,840
I've said about third phase and Rich

3972
02:49:19,610 --> 02:49:18,240
from goofan supporting them lying

3973
02:49:21,650 --> 02:49:19,620
through his teeth saying they haven't

3974
02:49:24,170 --> 02:49:21,660
faked anything for five years I

3975
02:49:25,849 --> 02:49:24,180
challenge you go to my Twitter at

3976
02:49:29,210 --> 02:49:25,859
Stephen Camby and pinned right at the

3977
02:49:31,910 --> 02:49:29,220
top of my profile is a link to this very

3978
02:49:34,910 --> 02:49:31,920
important documentary I challenge you

3979
02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:34,920
if you have any doubts about me about

3980
02:49:39,590 --> 02:49:37,680
how I whether I tell my audience the

3981
02:49:42,650 --> 02:49:39,600
truth while other show hosts like Rich

3982
02:49:44,150 --> 02:49:42,660
from goofan is are lying

3983
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:44,160
clearly

3984
02:49:50,870 --> 02:49:48,960
it can be established with all of the

3985
02:49:53,210 --> 02:49:50,880
available facts and evidence that rich

3986
02:49:55,490 --> 02:49:53,220
from goofan has lied to you

3987
02:49:57,230 --> 02:49:55,500
and part of me thinks if he's going to

3988
02:49:59,210 --> 02:49:57,240
be able to turn people against me simply

3989
02:50:02,450 --> 02:49:59,220
with stupid rumors that he's generating

3990
02:50:05,630 --> 02:50:02,460
and make people not see this documentary

3991
02:50:07,790 --> 02:50:05,640
and not find the truth part of me

3992
02:50:10,490 --> 02:50:07,800
doesn't care but of course I care

3993
02:50:13,070 --> 02:50:10,500
I don't want people lost in lies

3994
02:50:14,270 --> 02:50:13,080
deception and people manipulating their

3995
02:50:17,330 --> 02:50:14,280
audiences

3996
02:50:19,610 --> 02:50:17,340
I want people to see the available

3997
02:50:20,809 --> 02:50:19,620
evidence and make up their own mind so I

3998
02:50:22,610 --> 02:50:20,819
challenge you

3999
02:50:24,410 --> 02:50:22,620
if you have any doubts about anything

4000
02:50:27,530 --> 02:50:24,420
that I've said about third phase of moon

4001
02:50:30,230 --> 02:50:27,540
or Rich from goofan watch this

4002
02:50:31,849 --> 02:50:30,240
documentary and then come back to me and

4003
02:50:34,370 --> 02:50:31,859
let me know what you think and even if

4004
02:50:36,530 --> 02:50:34,380
you disagree with me I will thank you

4005
02:50:39,530 --> 02:50:36,540
for watching the documentary and giving

4006
02:50:42,170 --> 02:50:39,540
it a chance and I will thank you for

4007
02:50:45,110 --> 02:50:42,180
keeping an open mind enough to see the

4008
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:45,120
evidence before you make a a decision

4009
02:50:50,510 --> 02:50:47,520
the problem with third phase and moon

4010
02:50:52,550 --> 02:50:50,520
and Rich from goofan is all the only

4011
02:50:54,950 --> 02:50:52,560
play they have is to attack the

4012
02:50:59,090 --> 02:50:54,960
messenger they cannot attack the

4013
02:51:02,330 --> 02:50:59,100
evidence they cannot uh do anything

4014
02:51:05,270 --> 02:51:02,340
other than attack me for bringing you

4015
02:51:06,950 --> 02:51:05,280
that evidence I make no apologies for

4016
02:51:09,230 --> 02:51:06,960
bringing my audience the truth While

4017
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:09,240
others are lying to you I will never

4018
02:51:14,929 --> 02:51:11,520
apologize for

4019
02:51:18,110 --> 02:51:14,939
and by the way I I may make mistakes I

4020
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:18,120
may uh sometimes be too passionate in my

4021
02:51:22,969 --> 02:51:19,920
pursuit of the truth maybe I go a little

4022
02:51:26,270 --> 02:51:22,979
bit too far some may say but I will not

4023
02:51:27,889 --> 02:51:26,280
apologize for telling you the truth

4024
02:51:31,190 --> 02:51:27,899
especially when other people are

4025
02:51:34,010 --> 02:51:31,200
manipulating you and lying to you people

4026
02:51:37,250 --> 02:51:34,020
can try to damage my reputation here's

4027
02:51:40,550 --> 02:51:37,260
what I can tell you about me I am a uh

4028
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:40,560
what I would consider a good person I

4029
02:51:45,830 --> 02:51:43,439
have a a moral compass

4030
02:51:47,990 --> 02:51:45,840
that is very strong instilled in me at

4031
02:51:51,950 --> 02:51:48,000
an early age by being raised as a

4032
02:51:55,190 --> 02:51:51,960
Christian I have the best of intentions

4033
02:51:58,010 --> 02:51:55,200
here and though I may make mistakes I do

4034
02:52:00,110 --> 02:51:58,020
everything that I can to bring my

4035
02:52:03,410 --> 02:52:00,120
audience the truth

4036
02:52:05,750 --> 02:52:03,420
and uh you know people can try to create

4037
02:52:08,030 --> 02:52:05,760
some kind of scandals about me or make

4038
02:52:10,490 --> 02:52:08,040
up fake stories to try to turn people

4039
02:52:14,030 --> 02:52:10,500
away from that truth that I can't

4040
02:52:17,030 --> 02:52:14,040
control what I can control is that I can

4041
02:52:19,450 --> 02:52:17,040
tell you that on our side here we stand

4042
02:52:22,250 --> 02:52:19,460
on the side of Truth and righteousness

4043
02:52:24,650 --> 02:52:22,260
we have the truth here and the truth

4044
02:52:27,830 --> 02:52:24,660
doesn't change under questioning under

4045
02:52:30,889 --> 02:52:27,840
scrutiny under investigation under

4046
02:52:34,010 --> 02:52:30,899
research the truth Remains the Same

4047
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:34,020
and if you watch this documentary I

4048
02:52:39,710 --> 02:52:35,760
think that you may

4049
02:52:41,750 --> 02:52:39,720
if you're at all doubtful of me my sense

4050
02:52:45,230 --> 02:52:41,760
of morality whether I'm being honest

4051
02:52:46,910 --> 02:52:45,240
with people versus Rich from goofan I

4052
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:46,920
think you should watch this documentary

4053
02:52:52,730 --> 02:52:49,920
and make up your own mind and to anybody

4054
02:52:54,849 --> 02:52:52,740
who chooses to leave and go support a

4055
02:52:58,429 --> 02:52:54,859
proven liar

4056
02:53:01,550 --> 02:52:58,439
you know best of luck to you and no hard

4057
02:53:04,010 --> 02:53:01,560
feelings I will remain here doing the

4058
02:53:06,830 --> 02:53:04,020
good work bringing people the truth and

4059
02:53:08,690 --> 02:53:06,840
the evidence other people will slander

4060
02:53:12,170 --> 02:53:08,700
me attack me

4061
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:12,180
make up stories lie and say that I'm

4062
02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:14,640
using uh that's the latest lie and say

4063
02:53:19,849 --> 02:53:17,760
that I'm using show funds to buy things

4064
02:53:22,010 --> 02:53:19,859
like gifts for my children

4065
02:53:25,250 --> 02:53:22,020
that one's pretty stupid because I have

4066
02:53:28,429 --> 02:53:25,260
the receipt which oh man I literally

4067
02:53:30,290 --> 02:53:28,439
have the receipt for that that proves

4068
02:53:33,170 --> 02:53:30,300
that he just lied again

4069
02:53:35,990 --> 02:53:33,180
so not only will Rich do all of these

4070
02:53:37,610 --> 02:53:36,000
things he's got to invent New Lies he

4071
02:53:39,410 --> 02:53:37,620
didn't even mention the fact that third

4072
02:53:43,250 --> 02:53:39,420
phase tried to Stomp all over free

4073
02:53:44,870 --> 02:53:43,260
speech and freedom of expression right

4074
02:53:48,050 --> 02:53:44,880
real good guys

4075
02:53:50,990 --> 02:53:48,060
and he didn't of course he has no

4076
02:53:53,450 --> 02:53:51,000
there's no way that he can squirm out of

4077
02:53:55,370 --> 02:53:53,460
the things that he had said like third

4078
02:53:58,190 --> 02:53:55,380
face hasn't faked anything in five years

4079
02:54:00,290 --> 02:53:58,200
he also said third there's no proof

4080
02:54:02,750 --> 02:54:00,300
there's no evidence whatsoever the third

4081
02:54:05,269 --> 02:54:02,760
phase ever hoaxed anything

4082
02:54:07,370 --> 02:54:05,279
and he also said if it will be proven

4083
02:54:09,650 --> 02:54:07,380
that third phase faked anything recently

4084
02:54:11,090 --> 02:54:09,660
he just couldn't associate with them

4085
02:54:13,429 --> 02:54:11,100
well

4086
02:54:16,190 --> 02:54:13,439
I challenge anybody to watch this

4087
02:54:18,170 --> 02:54:16,200
documentary and you tell me is this man

4088
02:54:21,110 --> 02:54:18,180
Rich from goofan who has continually

4089
02:54:23,929 --> 02:54:21,120
slandered me belittled me tried to

4090
02:54:26,809 --> 02:54:23,939
damage my character try to damage my

4091
02:54:29,690 --> 02:54:26,819
reputation try to turn people against me

4092
02:54:32,570 --> 02:54:29,700
he has made videos making fun of my

4093
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:32,580
paralyzed eye he has suggested I have

4094
02:54:37,010 --> 02:54:34,560
pedophile friends and that may make me a

4095
02:54:39,889 --> 02:54:37,020
pedophile as well he has lied and said

4096
02:54:42,769 --> 02:54:39,899
we stopped talking after some uh

4097
02:54:44,570 --> 02:54:42,779
discussion of a comedy you know bit

4098
02:54:49,010 --> 02:54:44,580
video a goof

4099
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:49,020
uh he has lied now and said that I am

4100
02:54:52,969 --> 02:54:51,120
responsible for his show not doing well

4101
02:54:55,070 --> 02:54:52,979
and he couldn't pay his mother the rent

4102
02:54:57,650 --> 02:54:55,080
or something now he's telling people

4103
02:55:00,410 --> 02:54:57,660
that I'm begging for Super Chat so I can

4104
02:55:02,570 --> 02:55:00,420
buy my children expensive gifts and let

4105
02:55:05,690 --> 02:55:02,580
me tell you something I don't need to do

4106
02:55:08,690 --> 02:55:05,700
that I have other income he doesn't his

4107
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:08,700
only income is his show so when he says

4108
02:55:12,830 --> 02:55:11,040
that I'm spending my shows money on

4109
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,840
personal expenses what he's not telling

4110
02:55:18,349 --> 02:55:15,359
you is all of his expenses are paid for

4111
02:55:20,929 --> 02:55:18,359
by doing the Super Chat Shuffle and

4112
02:55:24,230 --> 02:55:20,939
begging for super chats I don't need to

4113
02:55:26,630 --> 02:55:24,240
do that we're fine here we're good all

4114
02:55:28,550 --> 02:55:26,640
of my personal bills my household bills

4115
02:55:30,650 --> 02:55:28,560
everything is paid from a separate

4116
02:55:32,330 --> 02:55:30,660
account and there's and by the way my

4117
02:55:34,910 --> 02:55:32,340
wife is an accountant we have

4118
02:55:37,309 --> 02:55:34,920
spreadsheets does Rich can he prove what

4119
02:55:38,750 --> 02:55:37,319
he spent every dime that he has taken in

4120
02:55:40,370 --> 02:55:38,760
for his show on

4121
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:40,380
because I can

4122
02:55:45,530 --> 02:55:43,439
and there has been thanks to my lovely

4123
02:55:47,150 --> 02:55:45,540
wife who's an accountant uh we have

4124
02:55:49,969 --> 02:55:47,160
everything set up so there is never

4125
02:55:52,190 --> 02:55:49,979
co-mingling of funds you may be unaware

4126
02:55:55,010 --> 02:55:52,200
what does that mean that means not a

4127
02:55:57,170 --> 02:55:55,020
single penny of any income taken in from

4128
02:55:59,990 --> 02:55:57,180
the show has ever made it made its way

4129
02:56:02,210 --> 02:56:00,000
to our other

4130
02:56:04,790 --> 02:56:02,220
personal accounts

4131
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:04,800
it remains in an account created solely

4132
02:56:09,710 --> 02:56:07,920
for the show and out of that account I

4133
02:56:12,469 --> 02:56:09,720
pay the show's expenses I buy any

4134
02:56:14,990 --> 02:56:12,479
equipment whatever we need comes from

4135
02:56:17,389 --> 02:56:15,000
the income generated from the show a

4136
02:56:20,210 --> 02:56:17,399
hundred percent of my Show's income goes

4137
02:56:22,429 --> 02:56:20,220
to support the show Rich can't say that

4138
02:56:25,250 --> 02:56:22,439
because out of his Super Chat Shuffle

4139
02:56:27,170 --> 02:56:25,260
that he does every day begging for super

4140
02:56:28,730 --> 02:56:27,180
chats he's got to pay his rent I guess

4141
02:56:31,550 --> 02:56:28,740
if he has to buy any gifts right

4142
02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:31,560
Christmas is coming who's paying for the

4143
02:56:34,250 --> 02:56:33,359
gifts that he will buy everyone for

4144
02:56:36,610 --> 02:56:34,260
Christmas

4145
02:56:39,889 --> 02:56:36,620
the people sending them super chats are

4146
02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:39,899
that can't be said about me my wife and

4147
02:56:44,690 --> 02:56:42,960
I do fine outside of this show and it's

4148
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:44,700
ludicrous for anybody who suggests that

4149
02:56:50,030 --> 02:56:46,800
I'm using personal funds I'm using the

4150
02:56:52,670 --> 02:56:50,040
show to buy it's ridiculous why doesn't

4151
02:56:55,130 --> 02:56:52,680
he talk about the evidence presented in

4152
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:55,140
this incredible documentary why doesn't

4153
02:56:59,450 --> 02:56:56,880
he talk about lying through his teeth to

4154
02:57:01,849 --> 02:56:59,460
his audience and this documentary proves

4155
02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:01,859
it why doesn't he talk about those

4156
02:57:06,349 --> 02:57:04,560
things because he can't friends he

4157
02:57:08,630 --> 02:57:06,359
hasn't figured a way to squirm out of

4158
02:57:11,870 --> 02:57:08,640
this one right

4159
02:57:14,830 --> 02:57:11,880
and despite his fat shaming other gas or

4160
02:57:17,750 --> 02:57:14,840
excuse me fat shaming other show hosts

4161
02:57:19,190 --> 02:57:17,760
falsely claiming I called him a Nazi no

4162
02:57:21,170 --> 02:57:19,200
I said he was going to host the Nazi

4163
02:57:23,929 --> 02:57:21,180
sympathizer sure I did and that he was

4164
02:57:27,469 --> 02:57:23,939
defending a Nazi sympathizer despite all

4165
02:57:29,450 --> 02:57:27,479
his claims all this stuff is only the

4166
02:57:31,610 --> 02:57:29,460
muddy of the waters he doesn't want you

4167
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:31,620
to see that documentary it clearly

4168
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:33,359
establishes he's been lying to his

4169
02:57:38,510 --> 02:57:35,279
audience and everyone else

4170
02:57:40,610 --> 02:57:38,520
and I'm sorry not sorry we have to move

4171
02:57:43,510 --> 02:57:40,620
on here this man is in my rear view

4172
02:57:47,630 --> 02:57:43,520
mirror he is a manipulator a deceiver

4173
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:47,640
and a a grifter in my opinion

4174
02:57:52,250 --> 02:57:49,680
who doesn't care about the truth because

4175
02:57:54,190 --> 02:57:52,260
if he did he would stand here with me on

4176
02:57:57,530 --> 02:57:54,200
the side of Truth and righteousness

4177
02:58:01,790 --> 02:57:57,540
instead he has decided to stand on the

4178
02:58:05,450 --> 02:58:01,800
side of Lies hoaxes faked videos and

4179
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:05,460
excuses for defrauding the public for

4180
02:58:11,030 --> 02:58:07,920
years and years and years

4181
02:58:12,530 --> 02:58:11,040
I can't I can't do anything about that

4182
02:58:15,110 --> 02:58:12,540
and learning through my new found

4183
02:58:17,330 --> 02:58:15,120
sobriety by the way we're over 120 days

4184
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:17,340
now I have to accept the things that

4185
02:58:22,250 --> 02:58:19,439
can't change this man's not going to

4186
02:58:23,990 --> 02:58:22,260
change he's never going to address the

4187
02:58:25,610 --> 02:58:24,000
fact that we haven't dead the rights

4188
02:58:27,230 --> 02:58:25,620
lying to his audience a bunch of times

4189
02:58:28,910 --> 02:58:27,240
he's never going to address this

4190
02:58:31,490 --> 02:58:28,920
evidence that he lied to his audience

4191
02:58:33,590 --> 02:58:31,500
and yes third phase has apparently

4192
02:58:36,349 --> 02:58:33,600
continued in their pattern of Faking

4193
02:58:38,150 --> 02:58:36,359
things in the past five years he's never

4194
02:58:42,130 --> 02:58:38,160
going to address this instead he's going

4195
02:58:45,530 --> 02:58:42,140
to muddy the waters attack me slander

4196
02:58:47,389 --> 02:58:45,540
whatever it takes you know whatever it

4197
02:58:49,070 --> 02:58:47,399
takes to make me the bad guy here in

4198
02:58:51,469 --> 02:58:49,080
this story he will never accept

4199
02:58:53,929 --> 02:58:51,479
responsibility he will never apologize

4200
02:58:56,450 --> 02:58:53,939
for his wrongs or even acknowledge them

4201
02:59:00,530 --> 02:58:56,460
he's that kind of a guy

4202
02:59:03,410 --> 02:59:00,540
I'm not and uh I give you all my word

4203
02:59:05,030 --> 02:59:03,420
that I may make mistakes but if I make a

4204
02:59:08,030 --> 02:59:05,040
mistake I acknowledge it somebody

4205
02:59:09,950 --> 02:59:08,040
mentioned earlier uh this Anjali thing I

4206
02:59:12,769 --> 02:59:09,960
acknowledge I made a mistake I

4207
02:59:15,170 --> 02:59:12,779
acknowledged it immediately I apologize

4208
02:59:17,630 --> 02:59:15,180
to her I apologize to the audience and

4209
02:59:19,730 --> 02:59:17,640
we moved on from that by the way to the

4210
02:59:21,790 --> 02:59:19,740
best of my knowledge she's forgiven me

4211
02:59:24,110 --> 02:59:21,800
for that and it's still

4212
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:24,120
surprisingly friendly to me and she

4213
02:59:27,769 --> 02:59:26,399
doesn't need to be based on that

4214
02:59:30,889 --> 02:59:27,779
Exchange

4215
02:59:33,469 --> 02:59:30,899
but I do give you my word I I will never

4216
02:59:35,870 --> 02:59:33,479
lie to you and uh I will accept

4217
02:59:37,610 --> 02:59:35,880
responsibility for mistakes I make if I

4218
02:59:39,349 --> 02:59:37,620
get something wrong I'll tell you I get

4219
02:59:41,450 --> 02:59:39,359
something wrong

4220
02:59:44,750 --> 02:59:41,460
um we're doing it the honest way here

4221
02:59:46,490 --> 02:59:44,760
and we don't need deception we don't

4222
02:59:49,250 --> 02:59:46,500
need lies we don't need to slander

4223
02:59:51,710 --> 02:59:49,260
people we don't need to make fun of you

4224
02:59:56,030 --> 02:59:51,720
know people's disabilities we don't need

4225
02:59:58,070 --> 02:59:56,040
to uh make fun of of of anyone really

4226
03:00:00,230 --> 02:59:58,080
and that's not the purpose of this show

4227
03:00:01,429 --> 03:00:00,240
we just don't do that we're not going to

4228
03:00:05,389 --> 03:00:01,439
do that here

4229
03:00:07,130 --> 03:00:05,399
will we joke about something sure but I

4230
03:00:09,290 --> 03:00:07,140
don't know I don't know what else to say

4231
03:00:11,030 --> 03:00:09,300
about that and we want to thank Dirty

4232
03:00:13,490 --> 03:00:11,040
Mike for kind and generous two dollars

4233
03:00:15,469 --> 03:00:13,500
and he says I don't care what you do

4234
03:00:17,090 --> 03:00:15,479
with this money it's yours now yes well

4235
03:00:18,349 --> 03:00:17,100
thank you for your kindness generosity

4236
03:00:21,170 --> 03:00:18,359
and support

4237
03:00:22,730 --> 03:00:21,180
uh as space exposure is here and says

4238
03:00:25,910 --> 03:00:22,740
I'm getting sick of all the alien

4239
03:00:29,210 --> 03:00:25,920
hybrids and starseeds yes indeed

4240
03:00:32,230 --> 03:00:29,220
uh Arlene Atkins Zell is here and says

4241
03:00:36,290 --> 03:00:32,240
congratulations on 120 days so any more

4242
03:00:37,969 --> 03:00:36,300
comments uh any more comments or

4243
03:00:39,110 --> 03:00:37,979
questions for me please put them in all

4244
03:00:41,929 --> 03:00:39,120
capital letters we're going to be

4245
03:00:44,389 --> 03:00:41,939
wrapping things up shortly here but I

4246
03:00:47,450 --> 03:00:44,399
have more time to share with you and I'm

4247
03:00:49,670 --> 03:00:47,460
happy to do that uh and I do want to

4248
03:00:51,889 --> 03:00:49,680
apologize for these uh technical issues

4249
03:00:54,650 --> 03:00:51,899
we had earlier the only way to still do

4250
03:00:57,290 --> 03:00:54,660
this show because you know

4251
03:01:00,290 --> 03:00:57,300
was to do it the old school way just

4252
03:01:03,110 --> 03:01:00,300
just guest on the phone and put up the

4253
03:01:05,450 --> 03:01:03,120
on the phone Banner we did that early on

4254
03:01:07,550 --> 03:01:05,460
it's not ideal but we got through the

4255
03:01:10,190 --> 03:01:07,560
show and it worked

4256
03:01:11,809 --> 03:01:10,200
um stormcrow says the cabin alone makes

4257
03:01:12,769 --> 03:01:11,819
you a man what has Griffith on ever

4258
03:01:18,550 --> 03:01:12,779
built

4259
03:01:21,950 --> 03:01:18,560
I don't know

4260
03:01:24,530 --> 03:01:21,960
transphobic homophobic

4261
03:01:26,450 --> 03:01:24,540
um fat shaming

4262
03:01:29,750 --> 03:01:26,460
person who makes fun of people with

4263
03:01:31,969 --> 03:01:29,760
disabilities who lies about people who

4264
03:01:33,530 --> 03:01:31,979
doesn't address the evidence you know

4265
03:01:35,570 --> 03:01:33,540
listen if he wants to attack the

4266
03:01:38,030 --> 03:01:35,580
evidence I'm fine with that attack the

4267
03:01:39,950 --> 03:01:38,040
evidence why are you attacking me I'm

4268
03:01:41,269 --> 03:01:39,960
just the person bringing everyone the

4269
03:01:43,309 --> 03:01:41,279
evidence

4270
03:01:45,710 --> 03:01:43,319
but of course that's his only play

4271
03:01:47,809 --> 03:01:45,720
friends thank you stormcrow for your

4272
03:01:49,969 --> 03:01:47,819
kindness generosity and and kind

4273
03:01:52,070 --> 03:01:49,979
comments I appreciate it Craig William

4274
03:01:55,429 --> 03:01:52,080
he's going to need to be fresh as a

4275
03:01:57,830 --> 03:01:55,439
daisy by 1700 hours and it's already the

4276
03:02:00,050 --> 03:01:57,840
yeah

4277
03:02:03,110 --> 03:02:00,060
stormcrow he has built a following of

4278
03:02:05,630 --> 03:02:03,120
misled people perhaps yeah and again

4279
03:02:08,090 --> 03:02:05,640
that's another thing I have to accept I

4280
03:02:10,010 --> 03:02:08,100
have to accept that no matter what proof

4281
03:02:12,230 --> 03:02:10,020
and evidence I show that this guy keeps

4282
03:02:13,969 --> 03:02:12,240
lying to his audience some people will

4283
03:02:15,830 --> 03:02:13,979
put their blinders on because they don't

4284
03:02:17,929 --> 03:02:15,840
want to believe that he would do that

4285
03:02:20,690 --> 03:02:17,939
and be that manipulative and that kind

4286
03:02:22,370 --> 03:02:20,700
of a person they like him they want to

4287
03:02:24,290 --> 03:02:22,380
they don't want to believe that that

4288
03:02:25,730 --> 03:02:24,300
he's been lying to them they're going to

4289
03:02:29,870 --> 03:02:25,740
put their blinders on and stick with

4290
03:02:33,050 --> 03:02:29,880
them and I can't change that I can only

4291
03:02:36,070 --> 03:02:33,060
save the Smart Ones I guess you know or

4292
03:02:39,349 --> 03:02:36,080
save the ones that uh will accept

4293
03:02:41,150 --> 03:02:39,359
overwhelming facts and evidence right

4294
03:02:43,790 --> 03:02:41,160
uh yeah

4295
03:02:45,469 --> 03:02:43,800
king of Hugo Mundo says when you attack

4296
03:02:47,389 --> 03:02:45,479
somebody and make fun of somebody for

4297
03:02:49,010 --> 03:02:47,399
their disabilities that means that you

4298
03:02:51,830 --> 03:02:49,020
are the one scared and desperate to do

4299
03:02:54,590 --> 03:02:51,840
an attack that very low yeah

4300
03:02:56,690 --> 03:02:54,600
I mean the only thing I can compare it

4301
03:02:58,730 --> 03:02:56,700
to is it's like standing outside of a

4302
03:03:01,550 --> 03:02:58,740
School for the Blind and making fun of

4303
03:03:04,010 --> 03:03:01,560
blind people and and granted I'm not

4304
03:03:05,809 --> 03:03:04,020
fully blind but I'm partially blind I

4305
03:03:08,030 --> 03:03:05,819
have one paralyzed eye you don't make

4306
03:03:10,309 --> 03:03:08,040
fun of people's disabilities would he

4307
03:03:12,230 --> 03:03:10,319
stand outside of a school for kids in

4308
03:03:14,330 --> 03:03:12,240
wheelchairs and make fun of them it's

4309
03:03:17,389 --> 03:03:14,340
ridiculous that that and and of course

4310
03:03:19,309 --> 03:03:17,399
he just you know excuses that away and

4311
03:03:20,630 --> 03:03:19,319
now he will be excusing away new stuff

4312
03:03:23,389 --> 03:03:20,640
he doesn't want to talk about this

4313
03:03:25,490 --> 03:03:23,399
documentary but I'm very thankful 325

4314
03:03:26,929 --> 03:03:25,500
people seen it today and I'm sure many

4315
03:03:29,030 --> 03:03:26,939
many more people have seen it today

4316
03:03:32,030 --> 03:03:29,040
because the links my friends thank

4317
03:03:34,370 --> 03:03:32,040
everybody The Links of this documentary

4318
03:03:35,870 --> 03:03:34,380
are pouring in and it is being uploaded

4319
03:03:38,809 --> 03:03:35,880
all over the internet

4320
03:03:40,790 --> 03:03:38,819
by people all over the world I've got

4321
03:03:43,849 --> 03:03:40,800
somebody in Mexico I've just been

4322
03:03:45,530 --> 03:03:43,859
talking to earlier today they're putting

4323
03:03:48,710 --> 03:03:45,540
it on all their channels [\h__\h] shoot

4324
03:03:50,750 --> 03:03:48,720
Rumble Odyssey wherever they can

4325
03:03:54,170 --> 03:03:50,760
um that's going up on Reddit right now

4326
03:03:56,450 --> 03:03:54,180
and uh I'm told uh by the by the

4327
03:03:58,849 --> 03:03:56,460
documentary filmmaker that that Reddit

4328
03:04:00,889 --> 03:03:58,859
post with the with the Odyssey link is

4329
03:04:03,290 --> 03:04:00,899
getting an awful lot of traffic this is

4330
03:04:06,410 --> 03:04:03,300
going to backfire on them three things

4331
03:04:08,870 --> 03:04:06,420
my friends a wiser man than me once said

4332
03:04:12,170 --> 03:04:08,880
that three things cannot long be hidden

4333
03:04:13,849 --> 03:04:12,180
the Sun the moon and the truth they

4334
03:04:16,070 --> 03:04:13,859
can't hide this truth

4335
03:04:18,290 --> 03:04:16,080
and if it's not this documentary it'll

4336
03:04:20,210 --> 03:04:18,300
be another good researcher and

4337
03:04:23,450 --> 03:04:20,220
investigator that does another one and

4338
03:04:26,330 --> 03:04:23,460
by the way uh if I were them I would be

4339
03:04:29,389 --> 03:04:26,340
scared because that's episode one

4340
03:04:34,250 --> 03:04:29,399
that's episode one of a series and

4341
03:04:36,050 --> 03:04:34,260
there's 30 proven hoaxes in that first

4342
03:04:40,610 --> 03:04:36,060
episode

4343
03:04:43,190 --> 03:04:40,620
what's next one has to wonder one has to

4344
03:04:44,990 --> 03:04:43,200
wonder if that's only episode one

4345
03:04:49,690 --> 03:04:45,000
I don't even know how many parts he's

4346
03:04:56,150 --> 03:04:52,370
be the last speaker you need toilet

4347
03:04:58,309 --> 03:04:56,160
paper to wipe the BS yeah

4348
03:05:01,070 --> 03:04:58,319
thanks David Bucky saying Jeremy the

4349
03:05:03,349 --> 03:05:01,080
guest was great and listen uh you know I

4350
03:05:04,790 --> 03:05:03,359
here's the thing on this story tonight I

4351
03:05:06,530 --> 03:05:04,800
understand the frustration and I'm

4352
03:05:09,950 --> 03:05:06,540
equally frustrated because what we've

4353
03:05:12,050 --> 03:05:09,960
got is a lot of witnesses telling really

4354
03:05:14,570 --> 03:05:12,060
compelling stories

4355
03:05:17,030 --> 03:05:14,580
stories I love by the way um there's

4356
03:05:20,450 --> 03:05:17,040
crashes and alien bodies I want to hear

4357
03:05:24,429 --> 03:05:20,460
about it it's that tantalizing maybe

4358
03:05:26,870 --> 03:05:24,439
this story is true though and it's it is

4359
03:05:28,490 --> 03:05:26,880
tantalizing and it is

4360
03:05:30,650 --> 03:05:28,500
I can understand people being frustrated

4361
03:05:32,809 --> 03:05:30,660
because I am too like what happens to

4362
03:05:34,190 --> 03:05:32,819
all this stuff that people claim when

4363
03:05:35,690 --> 03:05:34,200
they claim they see alien bodies

4364
03:05:38,150 --> 03:05:35,700
suddenly the government's there and it

4365
03:05:41,269 --> 03:05:38,160
all gets whisked away and we never

4366
03:05:43,370 --> 03:05:41,279
we never see it again right capsa says

4367
03:05:44,929 --> 03:05:43,380
right it will boost it for sure yes and

4368
03:05:48,769 --> 03:05:44,939
I want to thank each and every one of

4369
03:05:51,170 --> 03:05:48,779
the kind people who equally thought it

4370
03:05:54,170 --> 03:05:51,180
was wrong that nobody gets to see this

4371
03:05:55,969 --> 03:05:54,180
uh and people all over the Internet are

4372
03:05:58,670 --> 03:05:55,979
uploading it to different places I'm

4373
03:06:00,650 --> 03:05:58,680
aware that there's a torrent file uh I

4374
03:06:03,290 --> 03:06:00,660
think it's on Dropbox and we transfer

4375
03:06:06,769 --> 03:06:03,300
now people are sharing it it's gonna get

4376
03:06:09,290 --> 03:06:06,779
around you cannot stop the truth it will

4377
03:06:10,429 --> 03:06:09,300
come out you can delay the truth that's

4378
03:06:12,710 --> 03:06:10,439
what they did they delayed

4379
03:06:14,170 --> 03:06:12,720
congratulations Blake cousins you

4380
03:06:18,110 --> 03:06:14,180
delayed everybody

4381
03:06:21,349 --> 03:06:18,120
uh finding out the truth that is in this

4382
03:06:23,269 --> 03:06:21,359
documentary by about 24 hours you bought

4383
03:06:25,190 --> 03:06:23,279
yourself one day and I'm sure they're

4384
03:06:27,410 --> 03:06:25,200
going to be using that day to come up

4385
03:06:30,410 --> 03:06:27,420
with excuses for this to try to invent

4386
03:06:33,050 --> 03:06:30,420
new lies to slander me or you know

4387
03:06:34,849 --> 03:06:33,060
turn people against me tell people what

4388
03:06:37,190 --> 03:06:34,859
a bad person I am they need it that day

4389
03:06:39,710 --> 03:06:37,200
to figure out new lies to tell

4390
03:06:42,290 --> 03:06:39,720
so that they can muddy the waters but

4391
03:06:44,690 --> 03:06:42,300
I'm telling you I challenge every single

4392
03:06:46,849 --> 03:06:44,700
person within the sound of my voice go

4393
03:06:49,070 --> 03:06:46,859
to my Twitter it's at Stephen cambian

4394
03:06:52,929 --> 03:06:49,080
right pinned at the top of my Twitter

4395
03:06:55,030 --> 03:06:52,939
profile is this very well produced

4396
03:06:58,550 --> 03:06:55,040
well-researched well-investigated

4397
03:07:02,269 --> 03:06:58,560
documentary which clearly proves some

4398
03:07:04,550 --> 03:07:02,279
very uh disturbing things for example uh

4399
03:07:07,250 --> 03:07:04,560
when when third phase Moon first started

4400
03:07:09,530 --> 03:07:07,260
there was something like 10 or 12 UFO

4401
03:07:11,150 --> 03:07:09,540
sightings and videos that they claimed

4402
03:07:13,670 --> 03:07:11,160
other people sent them

4403
03:07:15,950 --> 03:07:13,680
uh that all happened within two miles of

4404
03:07:17,510 --> 03:07:15,960
the home they were living in at the time

4405
03:07:19,730 --> 03:07:17,520
at the time and this was has been proven

4406
03:07:22,969 --> 03:07:19,740
he even plotted it out on the map here's

4407
03:07:25,490 --> 03:07:22,979
these 10 videos or more maybe

4408
03:07:27,530 --> 03:07:25,500
here's all these videos on a map here's

4409
03:07:30,469 --> 03:07:27,540
third phase of Moon's house and they

4410
03:07:32,690 --> 03:07:30,479
claim they didn't know about these UFO

4411
03:07:34,309 --> 03:07:32,700
sightings they didn't see the UFOs all

4412
03:07:37,070 --> 03:07:34,319
these people on the internet just

4413
03:07:38,870 --> 03:07:37,080
happened that all live within the all

4414
03:07:41,150 --> 03:07:38,880
the UFO sightings happen within two

4415
03:07:42,889 --> 03:07:41,160
miles of their house right and people

4416
03:07:46,490 --> 03:07:42,899
from the internet sent them those videos

4417
03:07:49,490 --> 03:07:46,500
right sure sure it's just so ridiculous

4418
03:07:52,790 --> 03:07:49,500
and unlikely it's very very clear and

4419
03:07:54,290 --> 03:07:52,800
this this documentary I can't say enough

4420
03:07:58,070 --> 03:07:54,300
good things about the documentary

4421
03:07:59,929 --> 03:07:58,080
filmmaker and he did an excellent some

4422
03:08:02,030 --> 03:07:59,939
would say amazing job at putting this

4423
03:08:03,590 --> 03:08:02,040
thing together of laying out the truth

4424
03:08:06,349 --> 03:08:03,600
here's the hoax here's how they

4425
03:08:10,010 --> 03:08:06,359
perpetrated it or here's the evidence

4426
03:08:12,170 --> 03:08:10,020
you know that it is a hoax or it very

4427
03:08:16,610 --> 03:08:12,180
likely is a hoax

4428
03:08:19,070 --> 03:08:16,620
and uh you know I'm glad that he made

4429
03:08:21,469 --> 03:08:19,080
this documentary and I'm hopeful that

4430
03:08:24,469 --> 03:08:21,479
many many people will see it the truth

4431
03:08:27,349 --> 03:08:24,479
will not be hidden any longer

4432
03:08:28,790 --> 03:08:27,359
uh and I'm I'm in contact with people

4433
03:08:30,290 --> 03:08:28,800
right now I'm checking in with my

4434
03:08:33,110 --> 03:08:30,300
Twitter messages and I just got eight

4435
03:08:35,150 --> 03:08:33,120
new messages with new video links

4436
03:08:37,969 --> 03:08:35,160
so you know

4437
03:08:40,370 --> 03:08:37,979
should they happen to get a video taken

4438
03:08:42,830 --> 03:08:40,380
down from the first link we shared

4439
03:08:46,130 --> 03:08:42,840
it's okay we've got more for you we've

4440
03:08:47,630 --> 03:08:46,140
got lots and lots of video links of this

4441
03:08:50,929 --> 03:08:47,640
thing being uploaded all over the

4442
03:08:53,330 --> 03:08:50,939
Internet and uh I'm thankful for all the

4443
03:08:56,150 --> 03:08:53,340
people that are helping that support

4444
03:08:57,190 --> 03:08:56,160
free speech and support the truth coming

4445
03:08:59,929 --> 03:08:57,200
out

4446
03:09:02,330 --> 03:08:59,939
this is going to backfire the Streisand

4447
03:09:04,010 --> 03:09:02,340
Effect is already in full effect here

4448
03:09:05,570 --> 03:09:04,020
because I can't tell you how many

4449
03:09:07,969 --> 03:09:05,580
messages I got going what's in this

4450
03:09:10,190 --> 03:09:07,979
documentary why did they crowdstrom why

4451
03:09:11,809 --> 03:09:10,200
did they uh copyright claim it and get

4452
03:09:14,150 --> 03:09:11,819
it stricken off of YouTube why would

4453
03:09:17,330 --> 03:09:14,160
they do that it's fair use right yeah

4454
03:09:19,790 --> 03:09:17,340
it's fair use they still they still got

4455
03:09:21,410 --> 03:09:19,800
it deleted from YouTube and the

4456
03:09:23,570 --> 03:09:21,420
Streisand effects for those that don't

4457
03:09:25,250 --> 03:09:23,580
know it essentially works like this if

4458
03:09:27,830 --> 03:09:25,260
you try to hide something and cover it

4459
03:09:29,870 --> 03:09:27,840
up it only amplifies the number of

4460
03:09:34,070 --> 03:09:29,880
people who want to see it and eventually

4461
03:09:37,130 --> 03:09:34,080
do see it you can't you can't do this it

4462
03:09:39,469 --> 03:09:37,140
just they just handed this filmmaker a

4463
03:09:41,510 --> 03:09:39,479
huge favor because now it's the

4464
03:09:43,610 --> 03:09:41,520
documentary about third phase of moon

4465
03:09:46,070 --> 03:09:43,620
that they attempted to ban from YouTube

4466
03:09:48,889 --> 03:09:46,080
it's been banned right get it

4467
03:09:50,150 --> 03:09:48,899
copyrighted get stricken get it taken

4468
03:09:52,849 --> 03:09:50,160
off of YouTube

4469
03:09:56,030 --> 03:09:52,859
it just feeds the controversy now and

4470
03:09:58,429 --> 03:09:56,040
more people want to see it now

4471
03:10:00,110 --> 03:09:58,439
probably thousands and thousands more

4472
03:10:02,690 --> 03:10:00,120
people are going to see it now than ever

4473
03:10:04,190 --> 03:10:02,700
would have before

4474
03:10:06,410 --> 03:10:04,200
and

4475
03:10:08,269 --> 03:10:06,420
I'm thankful for that I'm thankful for

4476
03:10:10,610 --> 03:10:08,279
that and I'm thankful for all of the

4477
03:10:13,429 --> 03:10:10,620
people who helped in supporting

4478
03:10:14,990 --> 03:10:13,439
operation fourth phase of Truth there

4479
03:10:17,750 --> 03:10:15,000
are people all over the world right now

4480
03:10:19,030 --> 03:10:17,760
uploading this documentary all over the

4481
03:10:20,929 --> 03:10:19,040
internet

4482
03:10:22,490 --> 03:10:20,939
you cannot

4483
03:10:24,230 --> 03:10:22,500
stop people

4484
03:10:27,050 --> 03:10:24,240
from seeing this

4485
03:10:32,590 --> 03:10:27,060
it's not going to work it'll backfire

4486
03:10:38,030 --> 03:10:36,349
Tim Houston says Steve being hassled

4487
03:10:39,170 --> 03:10:38,040
over your lazy eye says more about him

4488
03:10:42,469 --> 03:10:39,180
than you

4489
03:10:44,690 --> 03:10:42,479
yeah I'm I mean I'm over that

4490
03:10:47,630 --> 03:10:44,700
but you know what I'm not over I'm not

4491
03:10:50,990 --> 03:10:47,640
over now he's involving my wife and my

4492
03:10:53,269 --> 03:10:51,000
child in his childish nonsense fake

4493
03:10:56,090 --> 03:10:53,279
stories about me to try to make me look

4494
03:10:59,750 --> 03:10:56,100
like the bad guy not over that

4495
03:11:01,429 --> 03:10:59,760
and one may ask themselves I've said it

4496
03:11:03,290 --> 03:11:01,439
before I'm going to say it again rich is

4497
03:11:06,590 --> 03:11:03,300
just not smart enough to do this with me

4498
03:11:08,269 --> 03:11:06,600
he's just not he should apologize he

4499
03:11:11,330 --> 03:11:08,279
should acknowledge he made a mistake and

4500
03:11:14,210 --> 03:11:11,340
move on he's not going to do that

4501
03:11:15,530 --> 03:11:14,220
um you know then another thing is do you

4502
03:11:18,889 --> 03:11:15,540
really want to make somebody like me

4503
03:11:22,130 --> 03:11:18,899
angry I hate to say this but I will

4504
03:11:24,650 --> 03:11:22,140
admit it when somebody pisses me off I I

4505
03:11:26,530 --> 03:11:24,660
go harder I do I mean that's probably

4506
03:11:29,809 --> 03:11:26,540
human nature right

4507
03:11:32,450 --> 03:11:29,819
he's now involving he's now talking [\h__\h]

4508
03:11:34,309 --> 03:11:32,460
on basically on my family on my wife and

4509
03:11:36,830 --> 03:11:34,319
child right

4510
03:11:38,330 --> 03:11:36,840
and that's suddenly going to make me

4511
03:11:41,210 --> 03:11:38,340
feel

4512
03:11:43,370 --> 03:11:41,220
forgiving and like moving on and doing

4513
03:11:45,290 --> 03:11:43,380
better things or is that going to make

4514
03:11:48,349 --> 03:11:45,300
me more adamant

4515
03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:48,359
more determined

4516
03:11:53,990 --> 03:11:51,720
to win this so-called disagreement right

4517
03:11:55,670 --> 03:11:54,000
oh that's another thing he lied about me

4518
03:11:58,790 --> 03:11:55,680
of course he started the disagreement

4519
03:12:00,530 --> 03:11:58,800
and he claims I did it's very clear the

4520
03:12:02,150 --> 03:12:00,540
timeline's very clear Rich you can't lie

4521
03:12:05,210 --> 03:12:02,160
your way out of that one either I have

4522
03:12:06,530 --> 03:12:05,220
the receipts you clearly started all of

4523
03:12:09,010 --> 03:12:06,540
this

4524
03:12:11,510 --> 03:12:09,020
world and Chaos thankful as well our

4525
03:12:13,490 --> 03:12:11,520
operation third phase of Truth is a

4526
03:12:16,849 --> 03:12:13,500
success no it's the fourth phase they're

4527
03:12:19,670 --> 03:12:16,859
the third phase of Lies we're the fourth

4528
03:12:23,630 --> 03:12:19,680
phase of Truth world and chaos but yes

4529
03:12:25,969 --> 03:12:23,640
uh sentiment remains thank you

4530
03:12:27,349 --> 03:12:25,979
uh B Baker really glad Jeremy came on

4531
03:12:29,809 --> 03:12:27,359
tonight we need to pay attention to

4532
03:12:31,550 --> 03:12:29,819
people doing research yes and thanks uh

4533
03:12:33,889 --> 03:12:31,560
everybody who did enjoy tonight's show

4534
03:12:35,330 --> 03:12:33,899
uh the few of you that didn't I'm sorry

4535
03:12:39,050 --> 03:12:35,340
maybe you like tomorrow's show better

4536
03:12:41,030 --> 03:12:39,060
you know I don't know what to say uh but

4537
03:12:43,969 --> 03:12:41,040
most people did enjoy tonight and you

4538
03:12:46,429 --> 03:12:43,979
can thank B Baker he found the guest

4539
03:12:48,290 --> 03:12:46,439
part of me he found the guest and he did

4540
03:12:50,630 --> 03:12:48,300
a book the guest and arranged the guest

4541
03:12:52,490 --> 03:12:50,640
and and it all worked out great so

4542
03:12:54,650 --> 03:12:52,500
thanks to B Baker

4543
03:12:57,170 --> 03:12:54,660
Arlene Atkins Family should always be

4544
03:12:59,030 --> 03:12:57,180
off limits simply common courtesy and

4545
03:13:00,950 --> 03:12:59,040
those that drag families into it Show

4546
03:13:03,050 --> 03:13:00,960
themselves to be classless

4547
03:13:05,809 --> 03:13:03,060
except where it's relevant for example

4548
03:13:08,570 --> 03:13:05,819
Arlene Atkins if third phase of moon are

4549
03:13:11,570 --> 03:13:08,580
using their four-year-old child to fake

4550
03:13:13,849 --> 03:13:11,580
a video about aliens then it's relevant

4551
03:13:15,830 --> 03:13:13,859
to bring someone's family into it they

4552
03:13:19,250 --> 03:13:15,840
are actively apparently

4553
03:13:21,590 --> 03:13:19,260
oh see the documentary friends there's

4554
03:13:24,170 --> 03:13:21,600
so much evidence in there that really

4555
03:13:25,309 --> 03:13:24,180
really shows uh the truth of this whole

4556
03:13:27,889 --> 03:13:25,319
situation

4557
03:13:28,969 --> 03:13:27,899
the baker says third phase of done

4558
03:13:30,889 --> 03:13:28,979
yeah

4559
03:13:33,349 --> 03:13:30,899
and stormcrow says they attack your

4560
03:13:36,110 --> 03:13:33,359
family because he is ashamed of theirs

4561
03:13:38,389 --> 03:13:36,120
uh yeah I mean if the the third phase of

4562
03:13:40,790 --> 03:13:38,399
fake family I guess operation fourth

4563
03:13:43,730 --> 03:13:40,800
phase of truth that's what it is yes

4564
03:13:46,910 --> 03:13:43,740
world and Chaos also fourth phase of

4565
03:13:49,309 --> 03:13:46,920
truth yes we offer you the truth here

4566
03:13:52,070 --> 03:13:49,319
the professional movie no women no kids

4567
03:13:54,050 --> 03:13:52,080
yeah I agree except if it's relevant B

4568
03:13:56,990 --> 03:13:54,060
Baker if you're using your four-year-old

4569
03:13:59,450 --> 03:13:57,000
child to con people to defraud the

4570
03:14:01,190 --> 03:13:59,460
public by creating fake alien videos and

4571
03:14:03,230 --> 03:14:01,200
you're using your child in it then it's

4572
03:14:05,690 --> 03:14:03,240
relevant to bring the child into it or

4573
03:14:07,849 --> 03:14:05,700
the family members into it because it's

4574
03:14:10,250 --> 03:14:07,859
directly relevant to the story but

4575
03:14:12,769 --> 03:14:10,260
otherwise uh yeah families should of

4576
03:14:14,630 --> 03:14:12,779
course be off limits not to these guys

4577
03:14:16,730 --> 03:14:14,640
they're gonna they're gonna they're

4578
03:14:17,870 --> 03:14:16,740
gonna bring my dog into this next I

4579
03:14:20,210 --> 03:14:17,880
think they've already brought my

4580
03:14:21,469 --> 03:14:20,220
children my wife into this right

4581
03:14:26,570 --> 03:14:21,479
great

4582
03:14:28,250 --> 03:14:26,580
too because like I said we have records

4583
03:14:31,010 --> 03:14:28,260
I could prove every dime I spent on

4584
03:14:32,990 --> 03:14:31,020
every every dime taken into the show was

4585
03:14:35,090 --> 03:14:33,000
either put into a holding account not

4586
03:14:38,030 --> 03:14:35,100
touched or it was used to support the

4587
03:14:40,610 --> 03:14:38,040
show in various ways I have spreadsheets

4588
03:14:42,530 --> 03:14:40,620
for it all not a single penny of any of

4589
03:14:46,370 --> 03:14:42,540
this money has ever been used to pay my

4590
03:14:48,230 --> 03:14:46,380
bills or buy gifts for someone or spent

4591
03:14:51,650 --> 03:14:48,240
in any other way other than to support

4592
03:14:53,030 --> 03:14:51,660
the show and I can prove that and uh I

4593
03:14:55,309 --> 03:14:53,040
guess it could be clearly established

4594
03:14:57,170 --> 03:14:55,319
however that every dollar that rich gets

4595
03:14:59,570 --> 03:14:57,180
comes from his show so if he has to pay

4596
03:15:02,570 --> 03:14:59,580
his bills that's coming from his super

4597
03:15:04,370 --> 03:15:02,580
chats if he has to pay uh for a gift for

4598
03:15:06,769 --> 03:15:04,380
somebody you know Christmas is coming up

4599
03:15:09,650 --> 03:15:06,779
that's coming from the show donations

4600
03:15:12,530 --> 03:15:09,660
and the super chats we have our own

4601
03:15:13,849 --> 03:15:12,540
money for that rich and you know I'm not

4602
03:15:16,309 --> 03:15:13,859
even going to get into it I shouldn't

4603
03:15:18,469 --> 03:15:16,319
have to explain this but you know

4604
03:15:20,929 --> 03:15:18,479
we don't pay our bills out of show money

4605
03:15:22,389 --> 03:15:20,939
he does so he could say whatever he

4606
03:15:25,849 --> 03:15:22,399
wants

4607
03:15:28,130 --> 03:15:25,859
we don't pay our bills from money from

4608
03:15:28,910 --> 03:15:28,140
the show that's all set aside for the

4609
03:15:32,630 --> 03:15:28,920
show

4610
03:15:35,389 --> 03:15:32,640
luckily we are doing very well and I am

4611
03:15:38,870 --> 03:15:35,399
very fortunate because I have a queen of

4612
03:15:41,750 --> 03:15:38,880
a wife an amazing woman in my life that

4613
03:15:45,050 --> 03:15:41,760
is an amazing mother amazing amazing

4614
03:15:48,710 --> 03:15:45,060
partner in life and we do great together

4615
03:15:51,590 --> 03:15:48,720
right we do great together her and I and

4616
03:15:56,450 --> 03:15:51,600
we have since we got together more than

4617
03:15:59,030 --> 03:15:56,460
20 years ago and uh I hope to always be

4618
03:16:02,210 --> 03:15:59,040
with her but she's a great woman and a

4619
03:16:06,530 --> 03:16:02,220
great mother and a great provider great

4620
03:16:08,030 --> 03:16:06,540
uh business person she is a uh amazing

4621
03:16:09,889 --> 03:16:08,040
amazing woman

4622
03:16:11,750 --> 03:16:09,899
uh I don't need to do the super chat

4623
03:16:13,250 --> 03:16:11,760
Shuffle to pay my bills thank God if I

4624
03:16:16,070 --> 03:16:13,260
ever do I think I would put a gun in my

4625
03:16:18,469 --> 03:16:16,080
mouth and by the way that's probably a

4626
03:16:20,990 --> 03:16:18,479
bad thing to say I shouldn't say that I

4627
03:16:23,330 --> 03:16:21,000
I just mean to say that if if I ever had

4628
03:16:26,570 --> 03:16:23,340
a you know do the Super Chat Shuffle to

4629
03:16:28,510 --> 03:16:26,580
have money in my life or to pay my bills

4630
03:16:32,570 --> 03:16:28,520
foreign

4631
03:16:35,150 --> 03:16:32,580
ly depressed but really really depressed

4632
03:16:38,030 --> 03:16:35,160
so maybe some people would say that we

4633
03:16:41,150 --> 03:16:38,040
should be mindful of that and feel bad

4634
03:16:42,590 --> 03:16:41,160
for people in that situation hell of a

4635
03:16:44,929 --> 03:16:42,600
way to be to have to lie through your

4636
03:16:47,929 --> 03:16:44,939
teeth and do the Super Chat Shuffle to

4637
03:16:51,769 --> 03:16:47,939
survive I don't have to do that I have

4638
03:16:54,769 --> 03:16:51,779
many marketable skills if um

4639
03:16:57,230 --> 03:16:54,779
if I had to I could go get a regular job

4640
03:17:00,190 --> 03:16:57,240
tomorrow doing a couple of different

4641
03:17:02,510 --> 03:17:00,200
things that I have a great resume for

4642
03:17:04,910 --> 03:17:02,520
some people got to do the super chat

4643
03:17:06,830 --> 03:17:04,920
Shuffle I don't and I guess it does it

4644
03:17:09,830 --> 03:17:06,840
does piss me off him suggesting that I'm

4645
03:17:12,110 --> 03:17:09,840
misusing funds or I'm grifting super

4646
03:17:14,570 --> 03:17:12,120
chats to buy my children Gifts of course

4647
03:17:17,030 --> 03:17:14,580
he just I mentioned that we were getting

4648
03:17:19,550 --> 03:17:17,040
my son a PlayStation 5 and and how

4649
03:17:21,230 --> 03:17:19,560
expensive that is or something he took

4650
03:17:23,090 --> 03:17:21,240
it way out of context but the great news

4651
03:17:24,650 --> 03:17:23,100
is that my wife is such a great records

4652
03:17:26,510 --> 03:17:24,660
keeper and like a good woman saved

4653
03:17:28,130 --> 03:17:26,520
receipts for everything I have a receipt

4654
03:17:29,030 --> 03:17:28,140
which proves that she already bought

4655
03:17:33,349 --> 03:17:29,040
that

4656
03:17:35,210 --> 03:17:33,359
gift weeks before and you know of course

4657
03:17:38,210 --> 03:17:35,220
out of our personal accounts not out of

4658
03:17:40,550 --> 03:17:38,220
the show account so he can just shut up

4659
03:17:43,190 --> 03:17:40,560
it's not going to work like how

4660
03:17:45,710 --> 03:17:43,200
desperate are you how desperate is this

4661
03:17:47,990 --> 03:17:45,720
guy to paint me in a bed like that he's

4662
03:17:50,870 --> 03:17:48,000
going to bring up some comment I made

4663
03:17:53,990 --> 03:17:50,880
and then suggest with no evidence or

4664
03:17:56,269 --> 03:17:54,000
proof that I I bought my son a

4665
03:17:58,849 --> 03:17:56,279
PlayStation from show funds it's so

4666
03:18:00,710 --> 03:17:58,859
stupid this is just as stupid as

4667
03:18:02,870 --> 03:18:00,720
suggesting I have pedo friends and that

4668
03:18:05,090 --> 03:18:02,880
indeed may make me a pedo it's just as

4669
03:18:07,610 --> 03:18:05,100
stupid as making a video making fun of

4670
03:18:10,010 --> 03:18:07,620
my disabled eye it's just as stupid as

4671
03:18:12,410 --> 03:18:10,020
suggesting I started this disagreement

4672
03:18:13,969 --> 03:18:12,420
it's just as stupid as telling your

4673
03:18:16,550 --> 03:18:13,979
audience third phase hasn't faked

4674
03:18:18,410 --> 03:18:16,560
anything in five years or the third

4675
03:18:19,870 --> 03:18:18,420
phase there's no proof that they ever

4676
03:18:23,690 --> 03:18:19,880
hoaxed anything

4677
03:18:25,969 --> 03:18:23,700
he's not a smart guy so

4678
03:18:27,410 --> 03:18:25,979
nothing will surprise me now I thought

4679
03:18:28,910 --> 03:18:27,420
he couldn't get lower than the pedo

4680
03:18:30,590 --> 03:18:28,920
comment but now he's lying to people

4681
03:18:38,630 --> 03:18:30,600
about what I spend the show money on

4682
03:18:43,309 --> 03:18:40,309
yes and please in the live chat no

4683
03:18:49,690 --> 03:18:43,319
unfounded uh allegations of anything

4684
03:18:53,690 --> 03:18:52,130
cynical Observer says I read that third

4685
03:18:55,190 --> 03:18:53,700
phase of moon had a typo in their

4686
03:19:01,790 --> 03:18:55,200
channel name for the first year or two

4687
03:19:06,830 --> 03:19:04,849
yes my Mike says I draw the line at the

4688
03:19:08,570 --> 03:19:06,840
dog well he's running out of [\h__\h] he's

4689
03:19:11,690 --> 03:19:08,580
gonna have to bring the dog into it

4690
03:19:13,730 --> 03:19:11,700
maybe the dog is an alien right

4691
03:19:15,050 --> 03:19:13,740
I don't know he's he's running out of

4692
03:19:19,130 --> 03:19:15,060
[\h__\h] he's gonna have to bring my dog

4693
03:19:21,170 --> 03:19:19,140
into this soon maybe my uh

4694
03:19:24,050 --> 03:19:21,180
you know I don't know maybe he wants to

4695
03:19:27,349 --> 03:19:24,060
uh you know

4696
03:19:29,750 --> 03:19:27,359
I don't know what I just don't I don't

4697
03:19:31,070 --> 03:19:29,760
want to know what to say but we're doing

4698
03:19:32,750 --> 03:19:31,080
great work here and we're going to

4699
03:19:35,570 --> 03:19:32,760
continue to do great work that reminds

4700
03:19:39,110 --> 03:19:35,580
me we will be I said we would debut it

4701
03:19:41,150 --> 03:19:39,120
this week it might not make it uh but uh

4702
03:19:44,750 --> 03:19:41,160
we have this new series that's coming

4703
03:19:46,809 --> 03:19:44,760
out uh and it is called murder in UFO

4704
03:19:50,809 --> 03:19:46,819
land if you haven't seen the

4705
03:19:53,889 --> 03:19:50,819
introduction to that uh then I will be

4706
03:19:57,530 --> 03:19:53,899
sharing that right now

4707
03:20:02,450 --> 03:20:00,590
yeah so uh I'm preparing the stories

4708
03:20:04,910 --> 03:20:02,460
we've decided to make it an entire

4709
03:20:07,429 --> 03:20:04,920
series because believe it or not uh

4710
03:20:10,070 --> 03:20:07,439
people being murdered in UFO land is a

4711
03:20:12,889 --> 03:20:10,080
lot more common than even I thought and

4712
03:20:14,870 --> 03:20:12,899
uh I am busily creating the shows we're

4713
03:20:18,230 --> 03:20:14,880
gonna do them live with a little bit of

4714
03:20:20,990 --> 03:20:18,240
video support pre-produced videos uh and

4715
03:20:24,410 --> 03:20:21,000
this is for our new series murder in UF

4716
03:20:25,849 --> 03:20:24,420
UFO land I keep saying I try to be a man

4717
03:20:27,290 --> 03:20:25,859
of my word and I said it would debut

4718
03:20:29,510 --> 03:20:27,300
this week but of course we've got all

4719
03:20:31,969 --> 03:20:29,520
this other drama that popped up that

4720
03:20:33,650 --> 03:20:31,979
sidetracked me so congratulations to the

4721
03:20:35,150 --> 03:20:33,660
people that are trying to distract me I

4722
03:20:39,950 --> 03:20:35,160
guess it worked but

4723
03:20:42,230 --> 03:20:39,960
it'll be as soon as I am able to do it

4724
03:20:46,490 --> 03:20:42,240
remember it has to be done right we want

4725
03:20:49,809 --> 03:20:46,500
a high level of uh of production quality

4726
03:20:52,309 --> 03:20:49,819
we also want a high level of of uh

4727
03:20:54,710 --> 03:20:52,319
professionalism doing the story right

4728
03:20:56,450 --> 03:20:54,720
that takes time's friends so I apologize

4729
03:20:59,690 --> 03:20:56,460
if it won't be this week it will

4730
03:21:01,670 --> 03:20:59,700
certainly be next week we have several

4731
03:21:06,110 --> 03:21:01,680
of the

4732
03:21:07,969 --> 03:21:06,120
to do these shows live I just want to go

4733
03:21:10,490 --> 03:21:07,979
through the notes make sure that I get

4734
03:21:12,309 --> 03:21:10,500
all the stories correct and straight and

4735
03:21:15,769 --> 03:21:12,319
then we'll be debuting our new series

4736
03:21:19,070 --> 03:21:15,779
murder in UFO land uh here's an

4737
03:21:33,349 --> 03:21:19,080
introduction or a teaser we'll be right

4738
03:21:37,849 --> 03:21:36,230
this is the story about dangerous UFO

4739
03:21:40,670 --> 03:21:37,859
Cults and murder

4740
03:21:43,730 --> 03:21:40,680
this is the story of what happens when

4741
03:21:46,389 --> 03:21:43,740
someone gets stuck or trapped too deep

4742
03:21:49,130 --> 03:21:46,399
down the rabbit hole of UFOs and aliens

4743
03:21:51,710 --> 03:21:49,140
on the internet

4744
03:21:54,349 --> 03:21:51,720
there is substantial and supportive

4745
03:21:57,650 --> 03:21:54,359
evidence that can show that some people

4746
03:21:59,330 --> 03:21:57,660
get caught or stuck too deep in that

4747
03:22:01,910 --> 03:21:59,340
rabbit hole

4748
03:22:04,730 --> 03:22:01,920
to some UFOs and aliens on the internet

4749
03:22:07,429 --> 03:22:04,740
becomes an obsession

4750
03:22:10,190 --> 03:22:07,439
and Obsession so deep that some are

4751
03:22:12,830 --> 03:22:10,200
willing to do anything to keep climbing

4752
03:22:15,830 --> 03:22:12,840
down that ladder

4753
03:22:18,469 --> 03:22:15,840
some people believe that by climbing

4754
03:22:21,110 --> 03:22:18,479
further and further down that rabbit

4755
03:22:24,230 --> 03:22:21,120
hole ladder and getting closer to The

4756
03:22:27,410 --> 03:22:24,240
Gatekeepers those who hold the secrets

4757
03:22:31,309 --> 03:22:27,420
that they will be given some secret

4758
03:22:34,690 --> 03:22:31,319
knowledge that others just don't have

4759
03:22:40,490 --> 03:22:37,010
wondered about some of the people I've

4760
03:22:43,730 --> 03:22:40,500
seen or met on UFO Twitter many of those

4761
03:22:48,110 --> 03:22:43,740
people spend eight 12 or even more hours

4762
03:22:51,230 --> 03:22:48,120
a day feeding their obsessions

4763
03:22:53,269 --> 03:22:51,240
and their Obsession only grows

4764
03:22:57,230 --> 03:22:53,279
with each new

4765
03:22:59,990 --> 03:22:57,240
promise of Revelation soon to come

4766
03:23:03,170 --> 03:23:00,000
but all those Revelations that these

4767
03:23:05,870 --> 03:23:03,180
so-called Messiahs of disclosure are out

4768
03:23:07,070 --> 03:23:05,880
there promising everyone never seem to

4769
03:23:09,290 --> 03:23:07,080
come

4770
03:23:12,469 --> 03:23:09,300
but they've sure got something new to

4771
03:23:14,389 --> 03:23:12,479
sell you every so often don't they and

4772
03:23:16,910 --> 03:23:14,399
isn't it funny how they never seem to

4773
03:23:19,309 --> 03:23:16,920
deliver on the promise of that

4774
03:23:21,110 --> 03:23:19,319
disclosure soon to come

4775
03:23:24,469 --> 03:23:21,120
and what about the people that are

4776
03:23:27,050 --> 03:23:24,479
selling this delusional fantasy world to

4777
03:23:30,229 --> 03:23:27,060
people with little or no evidence at

4778
03:23:33,229 --> 03:23:30,239
times do they bear any responsibility

4779
03:23:35,809 --> 03:23:33,239
for the negative impacts that the

4780
03:23:40,880 --> 03:23:35,819
obsession with this delusional fantasy

4781
03:23:42,010 --> 03:23:40,890
world can have on people's real lives

4782
03:23:45,830 --> 03:23:42,020
[Music]

4783
03:23:49,790 --> 03:23:45,840
I have witnessed the damage that this

4784
03:23:52,910 --> 03:23:49,800
session can do to make people who get

4785
03:23:55,670 --> 03:23:52,920
stuck too far down this rabbit hole

4786
03:23:58,729 --> 03:23:55,680
it can lead to lost jobs

4787
03:24:01,729 --> 03:23:58,739
lost marriages people who have lost

4788
03:24:05,330 --> 03:24:01,739
their children people who have destroyed

4789
03:24:07,670 --> 03:24:05,340
their lives even killed themselves and

4790
03:24:10,790 --> 03:24:07,680
what about the people who stood there

4791
03:24:13,729 --> 03:24:10,800
taking the money of these people selling

4792
03:24:16,790 --> 03:24:13,739
them this delusional fantasy world where

4793
03:24:19,370 --> 03:24:16,800
disclosures can come any day now where

4794
03:24:22,849 --> 03:24:19,380
the government has alien bodies and

4795
03:24:25,910 --> 03:24:22,859
blind saucers and soon we'll reveal the

4796
03:24:29,150 --> 03:24:25,920
truth about it what responsibility do

4797
03:24:31,849 --> 03:24:29,160
those people have When people's lives

4798
03:24:33,830 --> 03:24:31,859
are destroyed when marriages are

4799
03:24:35,090 --> 03:24:33,840
destroyed when people take their own

4800
03:24:36,469 --> 03:24:35,100
lives

4801
03:24:38,990 --> 03:24:36,479
or

4802
03:24:42,050 --> 03:24:39,000
where people get so far down this drive

4803
03:24:43,790 --> 03:24:42,060
at all that they lose all sense of

4804
03:24:46,429 --> 03:24:43,800
reality

4805
03:24:49,849 --> 03:24:46,439
that they finally snap

4806
03:24:56,570 --> 03:24:49,859
and murder those closest to them and

4807
03:25:01,550 --> 03:24:59,630
these are the true stories of murder in

4808
03:25:04,190 --> 03:25:01,560
UFO land

4809
03:25:07,130 --> 03:25:04,200
sadly it happens more often than most

4810
03:25:11,150 --> 03:25:07,140
people would ever imagine

4811
03:25:13,610 --> 03:25:11,160
even satter almost none of the people

4812
03:25:16,429 --> 03:25:13,620
selling the UFO narrative to the public

4813
03:25:33,349 --> 03:25:16,439
dare mentioned this or even acknowledge

4814
03:26:18,870 --> 03:26:02,990
foreign

4815
03:26:41,150 --> 03:26:29,860
[Music]

4816
03:26:41,160 --> 03:26:49,990
foreign

4817
03:26:53,809 --> 03:26:52,309
friends so that's our new series

4818
03:26:56,809 --> 03:26:53,819
debuting

4819
03:26:59,870 --> 03:26:56,819
as soon as possible murder in UFO land

4820
03:27:02,210 --> 03:26:59,880
there is something uh that I sort of

4821
03:27:05,150 --> 03:27:02,220
forgot and would like to do

4822
03:27:07,250 --> 03:27:05,160
this week we returned to uh something we

4823
03:27:11,510 --> 03:27:07,260
used to do quite a lot of which is uh

4824
03:27:15,610 --> 03:27:11,520
guest interviews and uh so

4825
03:27:21,050 --> 03:27:15,620
uh I'm gonna put a poll in the live chat

4826
03:27:24,170 --> 03:27:21,060
what would you like to see more of

4827
03:27:27,110 --> 03:27:24,180
uh would you like to see

4828
03:27:31,070 --> 03:27:27,120
more guest interviews

4829
03:27:33,710 --> 03:27:31,080
or solo shows presenting

4830
03:27:37,670 --> 03:27:33,720
my research

4831
03:27:41,690 --> 03:27:40,070
yeah

4832
03:27:46,130 --> 03:27:41,700
I'm just going to say my investigations

4833
03:27:50,690 --> 03:27:48,410
all right and we're gonna ask my

4834
03:27:53,210 --> 03:27:50,700
community so you guys get to decide are

4835
03:27:54,889 --> 03:27:53,220
we going to do more what would you uh

4836
03:27:57,309 --> 03:27:54,899
what would you like to see more

4837
03:28:00,710 --> 03:27:57,319
guest interviews or solo shows

4838
03:28:04,130 --> 03:28:00,720
presenting my investigations into

4839
03:28:06,530 --> 03:28:04,140
various topics I'm willing to do what

4840
03:28:08,630 --> 03:28:06,540
the audience wants we aim to please the

4841
03:28:11,809 --> 03:28:08,640
audience here and I'm happy doing both

4842
03:28:13,429 --> 03:28:11,819
we did have a point where we were just

4843
03:28:15,229 --> 03:28:13,439
doing interviews interviews interviews

4844
03:28:17,030 --> 03:28:15,239
interviews interviews and then I guess

4845
03:28:19,250 --> 03:28:17,040
everything here goes in cycles for a

4846
03:28:21,349 --> 03:28:19,260
while I just do the show solo then we go

4847
03:28:24,769 --> 03:28:21,359
back to interviews

4848
03:28:26,990 --> 03:28:24,779
um I would sure appreciate any feedback

4849
03:28:29,690 --> 03:28:27,000
or do we do a balance I think that's

4850
03:28:31,849 --> 03:28:29,700
good you know like maybe a half the week

4851
03:28:34,250 --> 03:28:31,859
we'll have guests and interviews in the

4852
03:28:36,889 --> 03:28:34,260
other half of the week will be me solo

4853
03:28:40,010 --> 03:28:36,899
presenting uh stuff that I've looked

4854
03:28:43,090 --> 03:28:40,020
into researched or investigated

4855
03:28:46,309 --> 03:28:43,100
um it's not really yes or no

4856
03:28:47,590 --> 03:28:46,319
arcade Revival says both okay well that

4857
03:28:50,269 --> 03:28:47,600
would be fine

4858
03:28:51,530 --> 03:28:50,279
I wanted to get some sense of what you

4859
03:28:53,269 --> 03:28:51,540
guys thought you could just let me know

4860
03:28:55,190 --> 03:28:53,279
in the comments as well maybe that's a

4861
03:28:56,570 --> 03:28:55,200
bad poll right because you're right some

4862
03:28:58,729 --> 03:28:56,580
people think both

4863
03:29:03,170 --> 03:28:58,739
space cow says both

4864
03:29:09,650 --> 03:29:06,530
and kepsis says yes on both boy you guys

4865
03:29:09,660 --> 03:29:15,070
uh

4866
03:29:21,050 --> 03:29:18,590
I do find puppet in a track suit with a

4867
03:29:23,330 --> 03:29:21,060
racing hat and some of Steven's custom

4868
03:29:25,450 --> 03:29:23,340
pubes stubble

4869
03:29:29,570 --> 03:29:27,769
Never Say Never I was about to say

4870
03:29:32,630 --> 03:29:29,580
that'll never happen Never Say Never

4871
03:29:35,630 --> 03:29:32,640
stranger things have happened here you

4872
03:29:37,309 --> 03:29:35,640
know I think it's a good idea to do both

4873
03:29:39,469 --> 03:29:37,319
otherwise we end up being called the

4874
03:29:42,550 --> 03:29:39,479
debunker even though your stuff is valid

4875
03:29:48,650 --> 03:29:45,410
mysterious Eon wants to see Leah Prime

4876
03:29:51,229 --> 03:29:48,660
in a lab coat with the UAP chart I think

4877
03:29:53,750 --> 03:29:51,239
mystery Eon just wants to see more of

4878
03:29:56,510 --> 03:29:53,760
Leah Prime but oh by the way somebody

4879
03:29:58,250 --> 03:29:56,520
please put B Baker please find her

4880
03:30:00,950 --> 03:29:58,260
YouTube channel Leah Prime it's

4881
03:30:03,290 --> 03:30:00,960
invisible school I have to put it in the

4882
03:30:04,790 --> 03:30:03,300
description of the video I'm a terrible

4883
03:30:05,809 --> 03:30:04,800
show host I said I was going to do it

4884
03:30:07,670 --> 03:30:05,819
after the show and then I got

4885
03:30:10,429 --> 03:30:07,680
sidetracked by all this other drama

4886
03:30:13,870 --> 03:30:10,439
going on and I didn't do it uh so we

4887
03:30:16,490 --> 03:30:13,880
have to add that but Leah it's

4888
03:30:18,889 --> 03:30:16,500
I yeah

4889
03:30:22,610 --> 03:30:18,899
if you know her YouTube Channel please

4890
03:30:25,849 --> 03:30:22,620
share it and uh I I for those unaware we

4891
03:30:28,010 --> 03:30:25,859
had Leah Prime which we talked about the

4892
03:30:29,450 --> 03:30:28,020
legacy of Art Bell that's a show earlier

4893
03:30:31,429 --> 03:30:29,460
in the week just go to our YouTube

4894
03:30:34,070 --> 03:30:31,439
channel here and you'll be able to

4895
03:30:35,570 --> 03:30:34,080
experience that discussion which was

4896
03:30:38,690 --> 03:30:35,580
really really fun I want to thank her

4897
03:30:40,849 --> 03:30:38,700
for lightening things up and and it was

4898
03:30:42,769 --> 03:30:40,859
good it was you know Nostalgia is a good

4899
03:30:44,510 --> 03:30:42,779
thing sometimes you know and through

4900
03:30:47,150 --> 03:30:44,520
talking to her I remembered all those

4901
03:30:50,570 --> 03:30:47,160
Early times and listening on a radio and

4902
03:30:53,150 --> 03:30:50,580
uh bbs's and the News groups that you

4903
03:30:55,849 --> 03:30:53,160
used to go to for stuff about aliens and

4904
03:30:59,090 --> 03:30:55,859
UFOs and how you used to have to wait a

4905
03:31:01,010 --> 03:30:59,100
few minutes for one jpg to download on

4906
03:31:04,250 --> 03:31:01,020
your screen so you can see the picture

4907
03:31:06,110 --> 03:31:04,260
of the UFO and it was really fun and

4908
03:31:08,510 --> 03:31:06,120
talking about Art Bell was fun again

4909
03:31:11,990 --> 03:31:08,520
remembering all the times I spent

4910
03:31:14,570 --> 03:31:12,000
listening to him right

4911
03:31:17,150 --> 03:31:14,580
76 degree Pyramid Power says can you

4912
03:31:20,990 --> 03:31:17,160
wear a David Wilcock mask I have in the

4913
03:31:23,269 --> 03:31:21,000
past look up oh how do I say this oh I'm

4914
03:31:26,210 --> 03:31:23,279
just going to say it uh David Wilcock

4915
03:31:28,790 --> 03:31:26,220
and a box of dildos look that up in our

4916
03:31:31,910 --> 03:31:28,800
YouTube search for our channel here I

4917
03:31:34,010 --> 03:31:31,920
did a few shows with David Wilcock mask

4918
03:31:36,590 --> 03:31:34,020
uh it's pretty much a joker mask

4919
03:31:38,269 --> 03:31:36,600
modified Joker mask please take care of

4920
03:31:40,190 --> 03:31:38,279
Stephen these people can be dangerous

4921
03:31:41,929 --> 03:31:40,200
yeah especially when you're

4922
03:31:43,010 --> 03:31:41,939
scrolling with their wallet I guess

4923
03:31:46,250 --> 03:31:43,020
right

4924
03:31:51,410 --> 03:31:48,229
storm Crow says you and Leah need to get

4925
03:31:53,570 --> 03:31:51,420
a room mystery on Good Luck yeah uh we

4926
03:31:55,130 --> 03:31:53,580
should be respectful of the guest she is

4927
03:31:57,349 --> 03:31:55,140
supposed to be working on a Tinder

4928
03:31:59,450 --> 03:31:57,359
profile for anybody I I don't know if

4929
03:32:01,010 --> 03:31:59,460
she wants me I don't know if she wants

4930
03:32:02,389 --> 03:32:01,020
me to talk about that you guys are gonna

4931
03:32:04,729 --> 03:32:02,399
get me in trouble with her we're trying

4932
03:32:06,410 --> 03:32:04,739
to stay stay friends and stay our good

4933
03:32:09,410 --> 03:32:06,420
side so she'll come back as a guest

4934
03:32:11,870 --> 03:32:09,420
right Zork says murder and UFO land yes

4935
03:32:13,250 --> 03:32:11,880
many people are anxious to see that I'm

4936
03:32:14,510 --> 03:32:13,260
anxious to bring it to you we're going

4937
03:32:17,030 --> 03:32:14,520
to bring it to you as soon as possible

4938
03:32:19,250 --> 03:32:17,040
and I'm sorry to change up when I said

4939
03:32:20,870 --> 03:32:19,260
oh it's it's I'm gonna we're gonna start

4940
03:32:24,050 --> 03:32:20,880
that Series this week now I'm saying

4941
03:32:25,849 --> 03:32:24,060
next week I'm you know I may get get

4942
03:32:28,010 --> 03:32:25,859
done what I need to get done and do it

4943
03:32:29,929 --> 03:32:28,020
on Saturday or Sunday but I can't

4944
03:32:33,170 --> 03:32:29,939
promise that I've got a lot of cabin

4945
03:32:35,389 --> 03:32:33,180
work to do I got a porch to build it

4946
03:32:36,769 --> 03:32:35,399
rained all last weekend this weekend I

4947
03:32:41,530 --> 03:32:36,779
will be

4948
03:32:46,250 --> 03:32:41,540
building a porch roof uh the patio is is

4949
03:32:48,710 --> 03:32:46,260
done and uh you know uh stone patio

4950
03:32:50,690 --> 03:32:48,720
floor 10 by 36 we just need to build a

4951
03:32:52,429 --> 03:32:50,700
roof on top of it and then we're going

4952
03:32:54,229 --> 03:32:52,439
to have a porch for the cabin which I

4953
03:32:55,969 --> 03:32:54,239
can't tell you how excited I am about it

4954
03:32:59,349 --> 03:32:55,979
because I've always imagined sitting on

4955
03:33:02,809 --> 03:32:59,359
the porch on my cabin at my cabin

4956
03:33:05,990 --> 03:33:02,819
relaxing reading books outside right

4957
03:33:08,750 --> 03:33:06,000
outside in the on the porch it was part

4958
03:33:10,610 --> 03:33:08,760
of the original Dream and uh luckily

4959
03:33:12,530 --> 03:33:10,620
that original Dream has all come

4960
03:33:15,530 --> 03:33:12,540
together there's only a few remaining

4961
03:33:17,450 --> 03:33:15,540
pieces of the cabin to build this porch

4962
03:33:19,250 --> 03:33:17,460
roof being one of them I have some work

4963
03:33:21,110 --> 03:33:19,260
to finish on the inside that I will

4964
03:33:24,410 --> 03:33:21,120
complete over winter I'm sure that

4965
03:33:26,150 --> 03:33:24,420
there's a few missing wall pieces and a

4966
03:33:28,570 --> 03:33:26,160
ceiling in the bathroom but that's the

4967
03:33:31,070 --> 03:33:28,580
smallest room in the cabin and

4968
03:33:33,889 --> 03:33:31,080
eventually I may build a bedroom out the

4969
03:33:35,870 --> 03:33:33,899
back but that'll be uh an adventure for

4970
03:33:38,750 --> 03:33:35,880
another time but I really want to get

4971
03:33:41,570 --> 03:33:38,760
this porch cabin ports done so I

4972
03:33:43,610 --> 03:33:41,580
consider my porch and enjoy my cabin and

4973
03:33:46,429 --> 03:33:43,620
my time at the cabin reading books or

4974
03:33:48,910 --> 03:33:46,439
you know I got a chiminea so you could

4975
03:33:51,349 --> 03:33:48,920
sit there by a fire right on the porch

4976
03:33:53,410 --> 03:33:51,359
and the porch is going to double also as

4977
03:33:56,950 --> 03:33:53,420
an outdoor kitchen so we're gonna have a

4978
03:33:59,510 --> 03:33:56,960
wood-fired pizza oven right on the porch

4979
03:34:02,330 --> 03:33:59,520
and a grill of course you gotta have a

4980
03:34:04,490 --> 03:34:02,340
grill and it's going to be great

4981
03:34:07,010 --> 03:34:04,500
Amy Collins says Stephen is building his

4982
03:34:09,670 --> 03:34:07,020
own private Idaho in Pennsylvania and he

4983
03:34:13,190 --> 03:34:09,680
will go on the patio

4984
03:34:15,950 --> 03:34:13,200
yes can I broadcast from the porch yes I

4985
03:34:18,110 --> 03:34:15,960
can as soon as I finish that porch Patty

4986
03:34:20,750 --> 03:34:18,120
and Wilhelm I'm gonna celebrate with all

4987
03:34:23,269 --> 03:34:20,760
of you by getting my favorite chair

4988
03:34:25,190 --> 03:34:23,279
putting it on that porch I'll get a

4989
03:34:27,830 --> 03:34:25,200
little table in the laptop or whatever I

4990
03:34:29,450 --> 03:34:27,840
have to do we have broadcasted from

4991
03:34:32,210 --> 03:34:29,460
pretty far from the actual physical

4992
03:34:34,070 --> 03:34:32,220
cabin in the yard around the cabin the

4993
03:34:35,750 --> 03:34:34,080
Wi-Fi signal is great that we have we

4994
03:34:37,610 --> 03:34:35,760
have good router I'll be able to

4995
03:34:39,650 --> 03:34:37,620
broadcast just fine right from the porch

4996
03:34:41,570 --> 03:34:39,660
That's pretty close to the router

4997
03:34:44,269 --> 03:34:41,580
actually it's near the front window in

4998
03:34:48,050 --> 03:34:44,279
the living room the router as I recall

4999
03:34:50,570 --> 03:34:48,060
uh so we will certainly broadcast from

5000
03:34:52,969 --> 03:34:50,580
the porch when it is completed

5001
03:34:55,010 --> 03:34:52,979
kepsa says once a month panel but not

5002
03:34:57,710 --> 03:34:55,020
from the chat but from other show hosts

5003
03:35:01,250 --> 03:34:57,720
like Leah stranger econ Steve long

5004
03:35:03,530 --> 03:35:01,260
even Lucy R yeah I'd be happy to invite

5005
03:35:05,570 --> 03:35:03,540
him you know that is a good idea because

5006
03:35:07,729 --> 03:35:05,580
sometimes that just

5007
03:35:10,190 --> 03:35:07,739
putting it out there and anybody coming

5008
03:35:12,769 --> 03:35:10,200
on gets really chaotic but if we had

5009
03:35:15,050 --> 03:35:12,779
just a bunch of other show hosts or

5010
03:35:17,870 --> 03:35:15,060
researchers I'm going to try to put that

5011
03:35:20,030 --> 03:35:17,880
together if you have any ideas capsa for

5012
03:35:21,349 --> 03:35:20,040
subjects you know like maybe we'll get

5013
03:35:24,889 --> 03:35:21,359
together and talk about

5014
03:35:28,370 --> 03:35:24,899
crash retrievals or about Roswell like a

5015
03:35:30,110 --> 03:35:28,380
six panel of me and five or six guests

5016
03:35:31,849 --> 03:35:30,120
that would be awesome and everyone can

5017
03:35:34,010 --> 03:35:31,859
share their perspective and we can get a

5018
03:35:36,110 --> 03:35:34,020
lot of different opinions on a certain

5019
03:35:38,389 --> 03:35:36,120
subject and have a great discussion

5020
03:35:41,269 --> 03:35:38,399
great idea I'm going to put it on the

5021
03:35:43,309 --> 03:35:41,279
list of things to do

5022
03:35:45,830 --> 03:35:43,319
truth cabin tours five thousand dollars

5023
03:35:48,170 --> 03:35:45,840
screw you Greer yeah and don't forget

5024
03:35:49,670 --> 03:35:48,180
the cricket yes I will try to do that we

5025
03:35:51,830 --> 03:35:49,680
don't have many crickets at the cabin

5026
03:35:55,969 --> 03:35:51,840
Believe It or Not Patty we have an awful

5027
03:35:58,010 --> 03:35:55,979
lot of tree frogs and people mistake

5028
03:36:00,410 --> 03:35:58,020
those for crickets they're tree frogs uh

5029
03:36:03,349 --> 03:36:00,420
the sound of tree frogs is all around me

5030
03:36:05,450 --> 03:36:03,359
at the cabin uh there's a great deal of

5031
03:36:08,210 --> 03:36:05,460
tree frogs I've only seen one on the

5032
03:36:09,889 --> 03:36:08,220
ground once I don't know if he fell or

5033
03:36:10,969 --> 03:36:09,899
what happened generally they stay up in

5034
03:36:12,469 --> 03:36:10,979
the tree and they're super well

5035
03:36:15,170 --> 03:36:12,479
camouflaged you never see them but

5036
03:36:17,330 --> 03:36:15,180
always hear them it's it's really it's

5037
03:36:19,610 --> 03:36:17,340
kind of weird right

5038
03:36:21,110 --> 03:36:19,620
uh Amy Collins says a guest of two a

5039
03:36:23,030 --> 03:36:21,120
week would be about the right balance

5040
03:36:25,429 --> 03:36:23,040
well good if anybody has any suggestions

5041
03:36:27,170 --> 03:36:25,439
for guests email me at truthseekershow

5042
03:36:30,229 --> 03:36:27,180
gmail.com

5043
03:36:33,110 --> 03:36:30,239
truth Seekers ce6 at the cabin yeah

5044
03:36:34,910 --> 03:36:33,120
we're gonna just like we have taken it a

5045
03:36:36,889 --> 03:36:34,920
step further we took it a step further

5046
03:36:38,750 --> 03:36:36,899
than third phase of fake they're a third

5047
03:36:39,889 --> 03:36:38,760
phase of fake we're the fourth phase of

5048
03:36:42,290 --> 03:36:39,899
Truth

5049
03:36:45,590 --> 03:36:42,300
Stephen Greer's got ce5 we're gonna have

5050
03:36:49,370 --> 03:36:45,600
ce6 right and by the way

5051
03:36:51,830 --> 03:36:49,380
if there is anybody who would like to uh

5052
03:36:54,889 --> 03:36:51,840
take part in an experiment concerning

5053
03:36:58,790 --> 03:36:54,899
Stephen Greer and the so-called ce5

5054
03:36:59,809 --> 03:36:58,800
protocols I am going to buy that app and

5055
03:37:02,090 --> 03:36:59,819
then I'm going to follow the

5056
03:37:04,190 --> 03:37:02,100
instructions to the letter and see if I

5057
03:37:06,889 --> 03:37:04,200
see any UFOs or aliens and if you're

5058
03:37:11,150 --> 03:37:06,899
willing to do that too we can do a panel

5059
03:37:13,910 --> 03:37:11,160
show and discuss whether the the ce5 app

5060
03:37:15,830 --> 03:37:13,920
for ten dollars I mean to me it sounds

5061
03:37:17,469 --> 03:37:15,840
scammy like just give me ten dollars and

5062
03:37:19,969 --> 03:37:17,479
you'll be able to communicate with the

5063
03:37:21,889 --> 03:37:19,979
extraterrestrials and and summon

5064
03:37:24,229 --> 03:37:21,899
spaceships

5065
03:37:26,990 --> 03:37:24,239
um I I don't think that this is a

5066
03:37:29,150 --> 03:37:27,000
reality uh but I'm willing to try it and

5067
03:37:31,750 --> 03:37:29,160
I guarantee you I give you my word is my

5068
03:37:34,729 --> 03:37:31,760
bond that I will give it an honest

5069
03:37:37,670 --> 03:37:34,739
try and I will really follow the

5070
03:37:40,429 --> 03:37:37,680
instructions to the letter and try to

5071
03:37:43,490 --> 03:37:40,439
see if this app is worth the money or is

5072
03:37:45,290 --> 03:37:43,500
it just another Greer money grab kind of

5073
03:37:48,250 --> 03:37:45,300
like that free energy

5074
03:37:51,710 --> 03:37:48,260
um charity that he was raising money for

5075
03:37:53,630 --> 03:37:51,720
and never by the way produced anything

5076
03:37:58,250 --> 03:37:53,640
for the I think it was more than a half

5077
03:38:05,269 --> 03:38:00,010
a show

5078
03:38:06,950 --> 03:38:05,279
connected to an IV bag of DMT be careful

5079
03:38:09,650 --> 03:38:06,960
what you wish for archaic revival

5080
03:38:12,950 --> 03:38:09,660
because I do have something planned for

5081
03:38:16,010 --> 03:38:12,960
the show that concerns

5082
03:38:18,650 --> 03:38:16,020
uh sensory deprivation Chambers and uh

5083
03:38:21,429 --> 03:38:18,660
we're working on that actually and I'll

5084
03:38:24,830 --> 03:38:21,439
have more news about that later

5085
03:38:29,030 --> 03:38:24,840
your email Sounds full of 17th letter

5086
03:38:31,729 --> 03:38:29,040
stuff so I'll just mention Don Ecker uh

5087
03:38:33,769 --> 03:38:31,739
okay I did use contact tones on a laptop

5088
03:38:35,750 --> 03:38:33,779
and went out with a laser and saw some

5089
03:38:38,450 --> 03:38:35,760
odd things nothing that had to be ET

5090
03:38:40,490 --> 03:38:38,460
though yeah I think maybe these things

5091
03:38:42,950 --> 03:38:40,500
just work on your superstitions right

5092
03:38:44,570 --> 03:38:42,960
it's like if if you go to a place and

5093
03:38:47,030 --> 03:38:44,580
somebody says this is a haunted house

5094
03:38:48,889 --> 03:38:47,040
and you go inside that haunted house and

5095
03:38:51,469 --> 03:38:48,899
and some stranger weird things happen

5096
03:38:52,790 --> 03:38:51,479
you're gonna think ghosts if you go

5097
03:38:54,769 --> 03:38:52,800
outside and somebody's telling you

5098
03:38:56,570 --> 03:38:54,779
you're going to see aliens and you see

5099
03:38:58,910 --> 03:38:56,580
some strange things you might think

5100
03:39:01,490 --> 03:38:58,920
they're aliens maybe that's how this

5101
03:39:02,809 --> 03:39:01,500
whole ce5 thing really does work you

5102
03:39:05,269 --> 03:39:02,819
know

5103
03:39:07,370 --> 03:39:05,279
you don't need an app just send me 333

5104
03:39:10,490 --> 03:39:07,380
dollars and I will send you all you need

5105
03:39:12,590 --> 03:39:10,500
mentally yeah I mean uh that's probably

5106
03:39:14,210 --> 03:39:12,600
you

5107
03:39:16,330 --> 03:39:14,220
know yeah I don't know what the

5108
03:39:22,429 --> 03:39:16,340
fascination with the number three is

5109
03:39:26,809 --> 03:39:25,130
we need live outdoor events you are in

5110
03:39:29,389 --> 03:39:26,819
one of the most paranormal states in the

5111
03:39:32,750 --> 03:39:29,399
US yes and the field investigations will

5112
03:39:35,389 --> 03:39:32,760
begin Sunday after winter though it's

5113
03:39:37,550 --> 03:39:35,399
cold up there right it is very very cold

5114
03:39:40,790 --> 03:39:37,560
right

5115
03:39:43,070 --> 03:39:40,800
king of Hugo Mundo says in the 80s

5116
03:39:45,229 --> 03:39:43,080
zombie and Alien movies were big I

5117
03:39:47,330 --> 03:39:45,239
absolutely agree with you yeah I

5118
03:39:49,750 --> 03:39:47,340
remember them I watched them all of them

5119
03:39:54,050 --> 03:39:49,760
probably twice

5120
03:39:56,210 --> 03:39:54,060
does anybody remember early HBO uh where

5121
03:39:58,490 --> 03:39:56,220
they would just replay the same movies

5122
03:40:00,110 --> 03:39:58,500
over and over and over and over again I

5123
03:40:01,610 --> 03:40:00,120
can't tell you how many times I probably

5124
03:40:03,889 --> 03:40:01,620
sat through

5125
03:40:05,630 --> 03:40:03,899
um Dirty Dancing with my mom or she

5126
03:40:07,729 --> 03:40:05,640
would watch that and you know coming

5127
03:40:10,330 --> 03:40:07,739
from school and just like oh my mom's

5128
03:40:12,650 --> 03:40:10,340
watching Dirty Dancing again

5129
03:40:15,050 --> 03:40:12,660
they played that Non-Stop and they

5130
03:40:19,090 --> 03:40:15,060
played Top Gun non-stop for like months

5131
03:40:21,889 --> 03:40:19,100
and months and months too right uh yeah

5132
03:40:23,210 --> 03:40:21,899
I much prefer the world of streaming

5133
03:40:26,030 --> 03:40:23,220
where you can just watch something

5134
03:40:27,469 --> 03:40:26,040
whenever you want it's amazing I

5135
03:40:29,330 --> 03:40:27,479
remember when I first saw it I had a

5136
03:40:31,610 --> 03:40:29,340
friend puppy a long time I haven't

5137
03:40:34,670 --> 03:40:31,620
talked to him he was an early adopter

5138
03:40:36,050 --> 03:40:34,680
and when cable TV went to the fact that

5139
03:40:38,210 --> 03:40:36,060
you could stream things at different

5140
03:40:40,309 --> 03:40:38,220
times I was like Blown Away you show me

5141
03:40:42,170 --> 03:40:40,319
he's like yeah what movie do you want to

5142
03:40:44,510 --> 03:40:42,180
watch and I'm like I don't know and he

5143
03:40:46,790 --> 03:40:44,520
showed me that he could watch any movie

5144
03:40:48,590 --> 03:40:46,800
on the channel that he had paid for

5145
03:40:50,570 --> 03:40:48,600
whenever he wanted and I was blown away

5146
03:40:52,370 --> 03:40:50,580
I was like whoa this is so great you

5147
03:40:54,530 --> 03:40:52,380
don't have to you don't have to tune in

5148
03:40:57,590 --> 03:40:54,540
at a certain time right

5149
03:40:59,630 --> 03:40:57,600
now people are spoiled you used to have

5150
03:41:01,849 --> 03:40:59,640
to of course you know like I remember

5151
03:41:04,610 --> 03:41:01,859
Star Trek was on a certain time you had

5152
03:41:06,769 --> 03:41:04,620
to tune in on that day and time and and

5153
03:41:09,349 --> 03:41:06,779
make sure you had nothing else to do and

5154
03:41:11,870 --> 03:41:09,359
watch the show at the given time and

5155
03:41:14,090 --> 03:41:11,880
date and then wait a full-on week for

5156
03:41:16,790 --> 03:41:14,100
the next episode I much prefer streaming

5157
03:41:19,130 --> 03:41:16,800
and I love binge watching I love it I

5158
03:41:21,290 --> 03:41:19,140
love like okay I'm gonna watch 12

5159
03:41:22,610 --> 03:41:21,300
episodes of this show or whatever it is

5160
03:41:25,610 --> 03:41:22,620
you know

5161
03:41:27,830 --> 03:41:25,620
it's really really I much prefer that

5162
03:41:30,170 --> 03:41:27,840
and and that waiting you know well

5163
03:41:32,929 --> 03:41:30,180
generally I do the waiting until like

5164
03:41:35,210 --> 03:41:32,939
right now I'm going to binge watch

5165
03:41:37,370 --> 03:41:35,220
um a few shows that I have waited you

5166
03:41:39,530 --> 03:41:37,380
know I haven't watched any of them

5167
03:41:41,990 --> 03:41:39,540
so like Westworld I'm going to watch the

5168
03:41:43,550 --> 03:41:42,000
latest episode of West uh season of

5169
03:41:44,330 --> 03:41:43,560
Westworld I'm going to watch the whole

5170
03:41:46,729 --> 03:41:44,340
thing

5171
03:41:48,889 --> 03:41:46,739
I love that you can just watch the whole

5172
03:41:52,250 --> 03:41:48,899
series the whole season you don't have

5173
03:41:53,929 --> 03:41:52,260
to wait week to week it's awesome uh and

5174
03:41:55,729 --> 03:41:53,939
any suggestions for what to binge watch

5175
03:41:59,090 --> 03:41:55,739
I'm all ears I'll be looking for things

5176
03:42:01,670 --> 03:41:59,100
to uh veg with I'm trying to make sure

5177
03:42:03,889 --> 03:42:01,680
that I maintain a better work life

5178
03:42:05,510 --> 03:42:03,899
balance you know you get very busy you

5179
03:42:06,889 --> 03:42:05,520
got kids and all this stuff and I got

5180
03:42:08,210 --> 03:42:06,899
this cabin I'm trying to build I got

5181
03:42:11,030 --> 03:42:08,220
this show I'm building I have a business

5182
03:42:12,710 --> 03:42:11,040
outside of this I'm trying to build I I

5183
03:42:16,429 --> 03:42:12,720
try to take some time to either read

5184
03:42:18,530 --> 03:42:16,439
books or or sit and watch interesting

5185
03:42:20,450 --> 03:42:18,540
shows usually I'm big on documentaries

5186
03:42:22,849 --> 03:42:20,460
though I don't like non-fiction I don't

5187
03:42:27,710 --> 03:42:22,859
like fiction shows as much as I like

5188
03:42:33,110 --> 03:42:29,750
oh yeah Stephen did you submit questions

5189
03:42:35,030 --> 03:42:33,120
for Greer's toe interview uh yes I did

5190
03:42:38,030 --> 03:42:35,040
originally but I'm going to send them to

5191
03:42:40,070 --> 03:42:38,040
him again and remind him of those

5192
03:42:41,990 --> 03:42:40,080
I remember my friend trained as border

5193
03:42:44,030 --> 03:42:42,000
collie I clicked the TV clicker it only

5194
03:42:45,769 --> 03:42:44,040
changed channels no choice just the next

5195
03:42:46,990 --> 03:42:45,779
channel that was my father's remote

5196
03:42:49,010 --> 03:42:47,000
control

5197
03:42:50,750 --> 03:42:49,020
has anybody remember before remote

5198
03:42:52,790 --> 03:42:50,760
controls my dad would go up and go put

5199
03:42:56,330 --> 03:42:52,800
six on we had three channels three six

5200
03:42:58,190 --> 03:42:56,340
and ten you know put on ten raise the

5201
03:43:00,590 --> 03:42:58,200
volume lower the volume he would never

5202
03:43:04,910 --> 03:43:00,600
get up off of the couch that's what his

5203
03:43:09,530 --> 03:43:07,370
House of dragons yes me and my wife my

5204
03:43:11,630 --> 03:43:09,540
wife is getting HBO just so that we can

5205
03:43:14,630 --> 03:43:11,640
watch that so we'll be we'll be starting

5206
03:43:16,490 --> 03:43:14,640
on that soon I think

5207
03:43:18,769 --> 03:43:16,500
I'm binge watching fear of The Walking

5208
03:43:20,630 --> 03:43:18,779
Dead season six I think I'm two seasons

5209
03:43:22,490 --> 03:43:20,640
behind never watched any Walking Dead

5210
03:43:24,650 --> 03:43:22,500
and I don't really like suspense too

5211
03:43:27,229 --> 03:43:24,660
much I don't enjoy suspense shows too

5212
03:43:29,809 --> 03:43:27,239
much so I don't think I will will ever

5213
03:43:31,190 --> 03:43:29,819
watch The Walking Dead I remember when

5214
03:43:32,570 --> 03:43:31,200
that was popular and everybody's like

5215
03:43:34,490 --> 03:43:32,580
what the hell's the matter with you you

5216
03:43:37,849 --> 03:43:34,500
haven't watched any of it I'm like nope

5217
03:43:40,309 --> 03:43:37,859
and I don't plan to I grew up on you

5218
03:43:43,370 --> 03:43:40,319
know Dawn of the Dead and and zombie

5219
03:43:46,309 --> 03:43:43,380
movies so a TV show that seems to never

5220
03:43:47,870 --> 03:43:46,319
end that's like 80 hours long about

5221
03:43:50,750 --> 03:43:47,880
zombies I don't think I'm gonna watch

5222
03:43:56,210 --> 03:43:53,929
yes 76 degree Pyramid Power by the way

5223
03:43:58,490 --> 03:43:56,220
thanks for being a member says you can

5224
03:44:01,729 --> 03:43:58,500
buy model UFOs and claim that they are

5225
03:44:03,830 --> 03:44:01,739
real yeah absolutely we'll do that and

5226
03:44:06,170 --> 03:44:03,840
Patty Amy love original Star Trek

5227
03:44:09,349 --> 03:44:06,180
especially the Tribbles episode did

5228
03:44:11,570 --> 03:44:09,359
anybody watch uh strange new Worlds the

5229
03:44:13,729 --> 03:44:11,580
new Star Trek series with Captain Pike

5230
03:44:15,889 --> 03:44:13,739
in the Enterprise I thought it was great

5231
03:44:18,170 --> 03:44:15,899
Star Trek it really seemed to get back

5232
03:44:21,229 --> 03:44:18,180
get away from all the woke garbage that

5233
03:44:23,330 --> 03:44:21,239
they try to jam into Discovery though I

5234
03:44:26,090 --> 03:44:23,340
did like Discovery too but I much prefer

5235
03:44:29,690 --> 03:44:26,100
This Strange New World's cast and to me

5236
03:44:31,429 --> 03:44:29,700
that seems like really close to Star

5237
03:44:33,950 --> 03:44:31,439
Trek and Star Trek the Next Generation

5238
03:44:36,229 --> 03:44:33,960
somehow it's got a great cast you start

5239
03:44:39,170 --> 03:44:36,239
to care about the characters and you you

5240
03:44:41,990 --> 03:44:39,180
follow the character arcs and Spock it's

5241
03:44:45,769 --> 03:44:42,000
got Spock adding that love a Star Trek

5242
03:44:48,290 --> 03:44:45,779
TV show that has Spock uh I love that uh

5243
03:44:51,170 --> 03:44:48,300
strange new worlds I think they only did

5244
03:44:53,870 --> 03:44:51,180
Nine episodes though uh but I've watched

5245
03:44:56,210 --> 03:44:53,880
all nine and I hope they're making a new

5246
03:45:00,490 --> 03:44:56,220
a new uh season I haven't heard if they

5247
03:45:08,510 --> 03:45:05,630
I picked up on Stuttering John uh okay

5248
03:45:12,650 --> 03:45:08,520
John Mendoza and Mendoza bird is another

5249
03:45:15,650 --> 03:45:12,660
discussion says uh Craig William yeah a

5250
03:45:18,050 --> 03:45:15,660
lot of people are aware but Mendoza is

5251
03:45:20,809 --> 03:45:18,060
claims to be some sort of fox Mulder and

5252
03:45:21,889 --> 03:45:20,819
he worked for the FBI and and but he was

5253
03:45:24,110 --> 03:45:21,899
a lawyer and he never actually

5254
03:45:26,030 --> 03:45:24,120
investigated anything

5255
03:45:28,010 --> 03:45:26,040
when I am really having trouble sleeping

5256
03:45:30,110 --> 03:45:28,020
I watch YouTube documentaries on the

5257
03:45:31,729 --> 03:45:30,120
history of math they exist yes you're

5258
03:45:33,530 --> 03:45:31,739
right Amy Collins there's also a great

5259
03:45:36,710 --> 03:45:33,540
one on the history of electricity that's

5260
03:45:38,450 --> 03:45:36,720
like three or four hours long that one I

5261
03:45:40,670 --> 03:45:38,460
have put on many many times when I have

5262
03:45:43,250 --> 03:45:40,680
trouble sleeping I've always had trouble

5263
03:45:45,950 --> 03:45:43,260
sleeping in insomnia and I cannot sleep

5264
03:45:49,670 --> 03:45:45,960
to silence it's a big thing of mine in

5265
03:45:51,229 --> 03:45:49,680
fact I my my poor son is always worried

5266
03:45:54,290 --> 03:45:51,239
where the remote control is because he

5267
03:45:55,729 --> 03:45:54,300
knows I I lose my [\h__\h] if if ever you

5268
03:45:57,769 --> 03:45:55,739
know everybody goes to bed and I can't

5269
03:45:59,110 --> 03:45:57,779
find the remote or watch TV in the

5270
03:46:01,969 --> 03:45:59,120
living room

5271
03:46:08,510 --> 03:46:01,979
I get so pissed because I can't sleep to

5272
03:46:13,490 --> 03:46:11,210
yeah I want to watch this I haven't seen

5273
03:46:15,710 --> 03:46:13,500
this yet there's a great series based on

5274
03:46:19,130 --> 03:46:15,720
the original movie with David Bowie

5275
03:46:20,929 --> 03:46:19,140
called The Man uh who fell to Earth and

5276
03:46:22,790 --> 03:46:20,939
that's a TV show I'm not sure where it's

5277
03:46:24,349 --> 03:46:22,800
on capsa I'll have to look into that

5278
03:46:26,870 --> 03:46:24,359
because I've had four or five people

5279
03:46:28,670 --> 03:46:26,880
tell me how much they enjoyed that I

5280
03:46:31,429 --> 03:46:28,680
love the man who fell to Earth the David

5281
03:46:34,550 --> 03:46:31,439
Bowie movie I thought that was amazing

5282
03:46:38,990 --> 03:46:34,560
science fiction great story compelling

5283
03:46:40,550 --> 03:46:39,000
really really Drew you in that's one of

5284
03:46:42,710 --> 03:46:40,560
those movies where you just forget the

5285
03:46:46,250 --> 03:46:42,720
real world when you put it on and

5286
03:46:47,990 --> 03:46:46,260
luckily I did that I put that movie on

5287
03:46:50,330 --> 03:46:48,000
and I totally forgot the real world

5288
03:46:52,370 --> 03:46:50,340
that's maybe why I love it and I think

5289
03:46:54,889 --> 03:46:52,380
Bowie did an amazing job playing the

5290
03:46:58,910 --> 03:46:54,899
character in it he was really believable

5291
03:47:02,389 --> 03:46:58,920
and he was you felt sorry for him being

5292
03:47:04,729 --> 03:47:02,399
like an alien that was uh you know lost

5293
03:47:07,010 --> 03:47:04,739
his family and got stuck on Earth and

5294
03:47:09,229 --> 03:47:07,020
couldn't get back home right Emperor's

5295
03:47:11,929 --> 03:47:09,239
Cortana says Westworld is a trip I can't

5296
03:47:14,210 --> 03:47:11,939
wait to see the the latest season I

5297
03:47:15,889 --> 03:47:14,220
didn't see any of it yet Empress Cortana

5298
03:47:18,110 --> 03:47:15,899
and I've been pretty good I want no

5299
03:47:20,269 --> 03:47:18,120
spoilers I've seen a few people going

5300
03:47:21,769 --> 03:47:20,279
like what the hell was that about a few

5301
03:47:23,389 --> 03:47:21,779
episodes or something but I don't know

5302
03:47:27,050 --> 03:47:23,399
what happened and I don't want to know

5303
03:47:29,389 --> 03:47:27,060
until I watch all of Westworld uh the

5304
03:47:31,610 --> 03:47:29,399
latest series I'll probably start on

5305
03:47:33,950 --> 03:47:31,620
that this weekend I heard that new Star

5306
03:47:36,349 --> 03:47:33,960
Wars show and or is good for insomnia

5307
03:47:38,269 --> 03:47:36,359
you know I don't understand Andor and

5308
03:47:40,670 --> 03:47:38,279
here's why stormcrow

5309
03:47:42,229 --> 03:47:40,680
the best part about Star Wars that

5310
03:47:43,910 --> 03:47:42,239
separates it from all other science

5311
03:47:46,570 --> 03:47:43,920
fiction shows like Star Trek or

5312
03:47:49,610 --> 03:47:46,580
Battlestar Galactica or or

5313
03:47:52,070 --> 03:47:49,620
any other science fiction show is the

5314
03:47:54,830 --> 03:47:52,080
Jedi and somehow Disney thinks they'll

5315
03:47:57,710 --> 03:47:54,840
make an entire show with no Jedi in it

5316
03:48:01,849 --> 03:47:57,720
and that's just somehow acceptable or

5317
03:48:03,650 --> 03:48:01,859
good it's a good idea I don't think so I

5318
03:48:07,690 --> 03:48:03,660
did love the Mandalorian but remember

5319
03:48:11,210 --> 03:48:07,700
they threw in some Jedi there's groku

5320
03:48:15,290 --> 03:48:11,220
and uh Kasha and there's also the the

5321
03:48:18,229 --> 03:48:15,300
amazing scene with a young post return

5322
03:48:20,929 --> 03:48:18,239
to the Jedi Luke Skywalker that they did

5323
03:48:23,090 --> 03:48:20,939
his face with CGI but that was great and

5324
03:48:25,510 --> 03:48:23,100
uh you know they

5325
03:48:29,090 --> 03:48:25,520
they had some Jedi

5326
03:48:32,030 --> 03:48:29,100
in the story of the Mandalorian they

5327
03:48:35,090 --> 03:48:32,040
threw in just enough you know sparingly

5328
03:48:37,429 --> 03:48:35,100
that there was Jedi in the Mandalorian

5329
03:48:40,190 --> 03:48:37,439
I thought it was great there was no Jedi

5330
03:48:42,110 --> 03:48:40,200
in Boba Fett but I'm a huge Boba Fett

5331
03:48:46,370 --> 03:48:42,120
fan having grown up with the original

5332
03:48:49,010 --> 03:48:46,380
Star Wars Trilogy uh you know four five

5333
03:48:50,690 --> 03:48:49,020
and six so I loved the Boba Fett series

5334
03:48:51,950 --> 03:48:50,700
even though it didn't have any Jedi it

5335
03:48:54,950 --> 03:48:51,960
would have been better if they threw

5336
03:48:57,110 --> 03:48:54,960
some Jedi in uh I don't understand this

5337
03:48:59,090 --> 03:48:57,120
and or series they purposefully said

5338
03:49:01,670 --> 03:48:59,100
that they weren't including any Jedi

5339
03:49:03,590 --> 03:49:01,680
it's not about the Jedi then who cares I

5340
03:49:05,330 --> 03:49:03,600
want the Jedi I want to see Jedi stuff

5341
03:49:06,530 --> 03:49:05,340
and so does my son he agreed with me we

5342
03:49:10,250 --> 03:49:06,540
talked about this

5343
03:49:12,349 --> 03:49:10,260
we were talking about uh TV shows with

5344
03:49:13,790 --> 03:49:12,359
Star Wars and I told him about Andor I

5345
03:49:15,410 --> 03:49:13,800
said we can watch it if you want but

5346
03:49:17,570 --> 03:49:15,420
there's no Jedi in it and he went

5347
03:49:19,030 --> 03:49:17,580
there's no Jedi and I go no he goes that

5348
03:49:21,469 --> 03:49:19,040
sucks

5349
03:49:23,750 --> 03:49:21,479
and I have to agree with him that does

5350
03:49:26,210 --> 03:49:23,760
suck why wouldn't you put Jedi in a Star

5351
03:49:28,910 --> 03:49:26,220
Wars series it just there has to and I

5352
03:49:30,710 --> 03:49:28,920
get it that the order 66 and all that

5353
03:49:34,190 --> 03:49:30,720
but like come on there had to be some

5354
03:49:36,590 --> 03:49:34,200
Renegades still on the run or whatever

5355
03:49:39,530 --> 03:49:36,600
there's the Jedi Fallen order that's all

5356
03:49:41,830 --> 03:49:39,540
about a guy who escaped from Order 66 uh

5357
03:49:44,389 --> 03:49:41,840
jedi young Jedi or Padawan or whatever

5358
03:49:47,150 --> 03:49:44,399
why would you not put Jedi in it I don't

5359
03:49:49,550 --> 03:49:47,160
understand it I just don't understand it

5360
03:49:53,450 --> 03:49:49,560
Westworld is like a more complex Matrix

5361
03:49:57,830 --> 03:49:53,460
are are they on base reality in the last

5362
03:49:59,269 --> 03:49:57,840
season or at the last the the last show

5363
03:50:02,090 --> 03:49:59,279
that I watched they were in the real

5364
03:50:04,250 --> 03:50:02,100
world they had gotten off the island and

5365
03:50:07,429 --> 03:50:04,260
you know they were sort of being hunted

5366
03:50:09,110 --> 03:50:07,439
down and you know and I haven't seen the

5367
03:50:11,450 --> 03:50:09,120
latest season I saw the season before

5368
03:50:14,090 --> 03:50:11,460
last last you know

5369
03:50:18,410 --> 03:50:14,100
uh

5370
03:50:20,809 --> 03:50:18,420
right

5371
03:50:23,750 --> 03:50:20,819
watch what we do in the shadows yeah

5372
03:50:26,809 --> 03:50:23,760
I'll put it on my list uh

5373
03:50:29,150 --> 03:50:26,819
the most recent series of Westworld a

5374
03:50:30,650 --> 03:50:29,160
season of Westworld might be prophetic

5375
03:50:32,809 --> 03:50:30,660
uh oh

5376
03:50:34,309 --> 03:50:32,819
uh Craig Williams says I worked for a

5377
03:50:35,809 --> 03:50:34,319
guy in a record store that was in the

5378
03:50:39,530 --> 03:50:35,819
New York nightclub

5379
03:50:42,290 --> 03:50:39,540
and saw Bowie do something some marching

5380
03:50:43,790 --> 03:50:42,300
powder with a rolled up a 100 that must

5381
03:50:46,370 --> 03:50:43,800
have been while he was still using he

5382
03:50:48,530 --> 03:50:46,380
later became an adamant supporter

5383
03:50:51,650 --> 03:50:48,540
of a straight edge lifestyle no alcohol

5384
03:50:54,969 --> 03:50:51,660
no drugs nothing and he certainly

5385
03:50:58,130 --> 03:50:54,979
cleaned up his act and good for him

5386
03:51:01,070 --> 03:50:58,140
in my situation just passing 120 days

5387
03:51:03,349 --> 03:51:01,080
with no alcohol I I need all the heroes

5388
03:51:05,590 --> 03:51:03,359
I can get and David Bowie is one of

5389
03:51:08,210 --> 03:51:05,600
those people who

5390
03:51:10,849 --> 03:51:08,220
he got off all the drugs and everything

5391
03:51:12,710 --> 03:51:10,859
and uh became a big supporter of

5392
03:51:14,929 --> 03:51:12,720
recovery for people

5393
03:51:17,030 --> 03:51:14,939
and even helped people like Trent rezner

5394
03:51:20,150 --> 03:51:17,040
from Nine Inch Nails when he decided to

5395
03:51:21,229 --> 03:51:20,160
stop boozing and doing drugs and

5396
03:51:23,690 --> 03:51:21,239
um

5397
03:51:25,849 --> 03:51:23,700
yeah

5398
03:51:27,950 --> 03:51:25,859
Leia's here says oh my God Stephen is

5399
03:51:29,690 --> 03:51:27,960
still going good Lord I'm about to

5400
03:51:32,210 --> 03:51:29,700
bounce on out of here we are approaching

5401
03:51:35,750 --> 03:51:32,220
four hours to be quite honest with oh

5402
03:51:37,309 --> 03:51:35,760
and Leah please uh on Twitter send me

5403
03:51:39,950 --> 03:51:37,319
your YouTube

5404
03:51:41,570 --> 03:51:39,960
uh Channel right now because I apologize

5405
03:51:44,870 --> 03:51:41,580
to you I said I was going to do it I

5406
03:51:46,370 --> 03:51:44,880
didn't do it I I I I don't know where

5407
03:51:48,650 --> 03:51:46,380
your YouTube channel was and I couldn't

5408
03:51:50,929 --> 03:51:48,660
find it I have to scroll back like seven

5409
03:51:54,410 --> 03:51:50,939
day or five days ago or three days ago

5410
03:51:56,510 --> 03:51:54,420
or whatever in the um Discord for when I

5411
03:51:59,269 --> 03:51:56,520
posted that video of yours

5412
03:52:01,190 --> 03:51:59,279
send me just your YouTube channel and

5413
03:52:03,889 --> 03:52:01,200
I'll add it to the video where you did

5414
03:52:06,530 --> 03:52:03,899
the show with me I apologize I didn't do

5415
03:52:08,450 --> 03:52:06,540
it I kept getting sidetracked and I'll

5416
03:52:10,309 --> 03:52:08,460
put your Twitter and I'll put your sub

5417
03:52:12,530 --> 03:52:10,319
stack if you give me just give me the

5418
03:52:15,950 --> 03:52:12,540
links the Twitter link the sub stack and

5419
03:52:18,290 --> 03:52:15,960
the YouTube channel link and I will add

5420
03:52:19,910 --> 03:52:18,300
it to the description of your video and

5421
03:52:21,469 --> 03:52:19,920
I apologize for not doing that people

5422
03:52:23,450 --> 03:52:21,479
were just commenting how much they

5423
03:52:25,070 --> 03:52:23,460
enjoyed our talk on Art Bell so I want

5424
03:52:26,990 --> 03:52:25,080
to thank you again for being here don't

5425
03:52:29,090 --> 03:52:27,000
be a stranger

5426
03:52:31,670 --> 03:52:29,100
um of course that guy mystery Eon was

5427
03:52:33,590 --> 03:52:31,680
back talking about you in a lab coat we

5428
03:52:36,050 --> 03:52:33,600
were asking what do people want to see

5429
03:52:38,389 --> 03:52:36,060
on the show and and Leah somebody said

5430
03:52:40,969 --> 03:52:38,399
Mysteria Eon said he wanted to see you

5431
03:52:43,070 --> 03:52:40,979
in a lab coat with a UAP chart I'm not

5432
03:52:46,910 --> 03:52:43,080
sure what that means but

5433
03:52:49,190 --> 03:52:46,920
hey it's good to be wanted right Leah

5434
03:52:52,010 --> 03:52:49,200
what we do in the shadows is hilarious

5435
03:52:53,570 --> 03:52:52,020
is that a vampire movie or something I

5436
03:52:56,330 --> 03:52:53,580
don't even know what that's about what

5437
03:52:59,510 --> 03:52:56,340
is that about what is what we do in the

5438
03:53:04,849 --> 03:53:02,450
uh yeah and we are going to be bouncing

5439
03:53:06,170 --> 03:53:04,859
on out of here

5440
03:53:09,050 --> 03:53:06,180
um

5441
03:53:10,490 --> 03:53:09,060
Mark Hamill is awesome in what we do in

5442
03:53:12,229 --> 03:53:10,500
the shadows well if he's in it I would

5443
03:53:13,990 --> 03:53:12,239
probably want to see it right not going

5444
03:53:17,929 --> 03:53:14,000
to live been trying to get sober since

5445
03:53:20,630 --> 03:53:17,939
2005. can't much respect

5446
03:53:22,490 --> 03:53:20,640
can't much resp okay I'm sorry I read it

5447
03:53:25,729 --> 03:53:22,500
wrong been trying to get sober since

5448
03:53:29,570 --> 03:53:25,739
2005 can't much respect to David Bowie

5449
03:53:33,710 --> 03:53:29,580
it's tough king of Hugo Mundo and in

5450
03:53:36,110 --> 03:53:33,720
fact now that I've passed 120 days I uh

5451
03:53:36,769 --> 03:53:36,120
sort of maybe I jinxed myself because I

5452
03:53:39,710 --> 03:53:36,779
said

5453
03:53:42,349 --> 03:53:39,720
when I did that 90 day when I passed 90

5454
03:53:44,030 --> 03:53:42,359
days we did a show the alcohol Diaries

5455
03:53:49,010 --> 03:53:44,040
90 days sober and I talked about

5456
03:53:51,950 --> 03:53:49,020
everything I had almost no Cravings I

5457
03:53:54,050 --> 03:53:51,960
was I was tempted very little to drink

5458
03:53:56,330 --> 03:53:54,060
every day for the first 90 days I was

5459
03:53:59,630 --> 03:53:56,340
pretty adamant I'm just putting down the

5460
03:54:00,410 --> 03:53:59,640
bottles and the beer and whatever

5461
03:54:03,229 --> 03:54:00,420
um

5462
03:54:05,389 --> 03:54:03,239
but now I'm starting to have problems

5463
03:54:07,130 --> 03:54:05,399
I'm really starting to struggle you know

5464
03:54:10,130 --> 03:54:07,140
I'm starting to think about going to the

5465
03:54:12,110 --> 03:54:10,140
bar more or going in Alcoholics

5466
03:54:13,550 --> 03:54:12,120
Anonymous they call it picking up

5467
03:54:15,950 --> 03:54:13,560
starting to think about going somewhere

5468
03:54:18,530 --> 03:54:15,960
and picking up some alcohol because

5469
03:54:20,210 --> 03:54:18,540
um I don't know why I just you know but

5470
03:54:23,630 --> 03:54:20,220
I'm adamant I'm doing another couple

5471
03:54:25,550 --> 03:54:23,640
months I'm gonna hit six months sober uh

5472
03:54:27,650 --> 03:54:25,560
I've only done that one other time in my

5473
03:54:32,050 --> 03:54:27,660
life believe it or not since I started

5474
03:54:34,429 --> 03:54:32,060
drinking at I don't know 14 or something

5475
03:54:36,290 --> 03:54:34,439
Leah says I literally fell asleep and

5476
03:54:38,570 --> 03:54:36,300
woke up and low Stephen is still going

5477
03:54:40,429 --> 03:54:38,580
yeah I don't know what it is Leah but

5478
03:54:42,830 --> 03:54:40,439
we've been doing I've been going a lot

5479
03:54:45,229 --> 03:54:42,840
longer but one of the things that I

5480
03:54:48,469 --> 03:54:45,239
realized Leah is that the longer streams

5481
03:54:50,389 --> 03:54:48,479
get better views and so I'm willing to

5482
03:54:52,250 --> 03:54:50,399
be here if people are willing to be here

5483
03:54:53,090 --> 03:54:52,260
and we've still got

5484
03:54:58,370 --> 03:54:53,100
um

5485
03:54:59,870 --> 03:54:58,380
90 people watching so I just some days I

5486
03:55:01,490 --> 03:54:59,880
just keep going if I don't have anything

5487
03:55:03,950 --> 03:55:01,500
to do and I know I'm gonna have trouble

5488
03:55:05,870 --> 03:55:03,960
sleeping tonight it might as well spend

5489
03:55:08,030 --> 03:55:05,880
the time with you guys

5490
03:55:10,790 --> 03:55:08,040
okay what we do in the shadows is an

5491
03:55:14,090 --> 03:55:10,800
effects comedy about vampires great I

5492
03:55:17,030 --> 03:55:14,100
would probably like that and Mark Hamill

5493
03:55:18,590 --> 03:55:17,040
is in it so I I am a big fan of his I

5494
03:55:21,170 --> 03:55:18,600
would certainly probably enjoy that I'll

5495
03:55:23,510 --> 03:55:21,180
put it on my list of binge watching

5496
03:55:25,670 --> 03:55:23,520
but I do we talked about it with Leah I

5497
03:55:26,389 --> 03:55:25,680
don't watch much television

5498
03:55:28,370 --> 03:55:26,399
um

5499
03:55:30,830 --> 03:55:28,380
usually I watch something while I'm

5500
03:55:32,630 --> 03:55:30,840
falling asleep or while I'm going to you

5501
03:55:34,370 --> 03:55:32,640
know right before bed and then I fall

5502
03:55:36,349 --> 03:55:34,380
asleep during it and then I have to

5503
03:55:38,570 --> 03:55:36,359
watch another half of it the next night

5504
03:55:40,490 --> 03:55:38,580
or something I'm terrible at just

5505
03:55:42,349 --> 03:55:40,500
sitting there and watching television

5506
03:55:44,630 --> 03:55:42,359
for hours at a time I always worry that

5507
03:55:46,429 --> 03:55:44,640
I'm wasting time or like I should finish

5508
03:55:48,950 --> 03:55:46,439
this or do that I've got too many

5509
03:55:51,889 --> 03:55:48,960
projects going but I'm going to work on

5510
03:55:54,889 --> 03:55:51,899
uh trying to relax a little more I need

5511
03:55:57,229 --> 03:55:54,899
a better balance between work and and

5512
03:55:58,570 --> 03:55:57,239
some restful time

5513
03:56:02,210 --> 03:55:58,580
right

5514
03:56:06,229 --> 03:56:02,220
world and Chaos says just joined Odyssey

5515
03:56:07,550 --> 03:56:06,239
watching the video now yes and I want to

5516
03:56:10,130 --> 03:56:07,560
uh

5517
03:56:12,469 --> 03:56:10,140
well in Cass says this documentary is

5518
03:56:14,570 --> 03:56:12,479
facts yeah it's pretty great I think the

5519
03:56:16,010 --> 03:56:14,580
guy did a great job and by the way I

5520
03:56:18,290 --> 03:56:16,020
want to encourage everybody go on over

5521
03:56:20,630 --> 03:56:18,300
to my Twitter it's at Stephen Camby and

5522
03:56:21,769 --> 03:56:20,640
there pinned to my profile you will see

5523
03:56:25,610 --> 03:56:21,779
the video

5524
03:56:29,090 --> 03:56:25,620
uh on Odyssey it's called The hoax files

5525
03:56:30,830 --> 03:56:29,100
third phase of moon exposed this is the

5526
03:56:31,630 --> 03:56:30,840
video that they got stricken off of

5527
03:56:35,870 --> 03:56:31,640
YouTube

5528
03:56:38,630 --> 03:56:35,880
and uh I think that's not fair you can

5529
03:56:40,370 --> 03:56:38,640
help me and the filmmaker and the side

5530
03:56:43,969 --> 03:56:40,380
of Truth and righteousness by taking

5531
03:56:46,670 --> 03:56:43,979
that Odyssey link and sharing it on your

5532
03:56:49,309 --> 03:56:46,680
social media let's make more people see

5533
03:56:51,410 --> 03:56:49,319
it than ever would have uh and that

5534
03:56:54,590 --> 03:56:51,420
would be Justice for somebody trying to

5535
03:56:59,870 --> 03:56:54,600
hide that information from the public in

5536
03:57:05,389 --> 03:57:02,929
ah be careful stormcrow be nice

5537
03:57:07,490 --> 03:57:05,399
especially to to guests especially

5538
03:57:09,650 --> 03:57:07,500
guests I like right

5539
03:57:11,990 --> 03:57:09,660
and Mike says I'm watching after this

5540
03:57:13,790 --> 03:57:12,000
yes and after you've watched it or while

5541
03:57:16,370 --> 03:57:13,800
you're watching it once you go to the

5542
03:57:18,650 --> 03:57:16,380
link please copy that link and put it on

5543
03:57:20,830 --> 03:57:18,660
your Twitter copy that link and put it

5544
03:57:25,130 --> 03:57:20,840
on your Facebook put it anywhere you can

5545
03:57:28,250 --> 03:57:25,140
right uh and by the way thanks to all of

5546
03:57:30,950 --> 03:57:28,260
you kind people who uploaded that video

5547
03:57:32,450 --> 03:57:30,960
somewhere because now the last I chab

5548
03:57:34,790 --> 03:57:32,460
checking in with Twitter and a whole

5549
03:57:38,030 --> 03:57:34,800
bunch more people posted it on bit shoot

5550
03:57:40,189 --> 03:57:38,040
on rumble on people are posting it to

5551
03:57:43,070 --> 03:57:40,199
Dropbox and we transfer there's a

5552
03:57:44,809 --> 03:57:43,080
there's a torrent of it and people are

5553
03:57:46,790 --> 03:57:44,819
posting it all over the place I think

5554
03:57:49,250 --> 03:57:46,800
Daily Motion somebody said they posted

5555
03:57:51,830 --> 03:57:49,260
it there this documentary is getting

5556
03:57:54,469 --> 03:57:51,840
posted all over the Internet it will not

5557
03:57:56,510 --> 03:57:54,479
be censored they will not hide the truth

5558
03:57:59,269 --> 03:57:56,520
thanks to

5559
03:58:00,710 --> 03:57:59,279
people that care about Free Speech

5560
03:58:03,290 --> 03:58:00,720
people that care about freedom of

5561
03:58:07,250 --> 03:58:03,300
expression and and think that it is

5562
03:58:10,070 --> 03:58:07,260
correct and right for somebody to uh

5563
03:58:13,550 --> 03:58:10,080
to be critical of the methods that they

5564
03:58:16,490 --> 03:58:13,560
use to generate all those views and all

5565
03:58:20,630 --> 03:58:18,530
thank you very much space count says I'm

5566
03:58:23,090 --> 03:58:20,640
going to post it in my Patriot group oh

5567
03:58:25,670 --> 03:58:23,100
yes well thank you for your kindness and

5568
03:58:28,070 --> 03:58:25,680
and your support of free speech

5569
03:58:30,530 --> 03:58:28,080
you know uh

5570
03:58:32,210 --> 03:58:30,540
yeah I got the link thanks to B Baker

5571
03:58:34,849 --> 03:58:32,220
and thanks to B Baker

5572
03:58:37,370 --> 03:58:34,859
um everybody I just want to be sure to

5573
03:58:38,990 --> 03:58:37,380
to thank all of you people who are

5574
03:58:40,670 --> 03:58:39,000
sharing that video

5575
03:58:42,769 --> 03:58:40,680
uh people are sharing it on Reddit

5576
03:58:45,830 --> 03:58:42,779
people are sharing it on Facebook on

5577
03:58:47,630 --> 03:58:45,840
Twitter I somebody said they shared all

5578
03:58:50,210 --> 03:58:47,640
these different places and that's great

5579
03:58:52,189 --> 03:58:50,220
because and remember

5580
03:58:54,769 --> 03:58:52,199
the first link I shared is just one

5581
03:58:57,290 --> 03:58:54,779
we've got a whole bunch of links I think

5582
03:58:59,750 --> 03:58:57,300
we're up to 50 now this video will not

5583
03:59:02,929 --> 03:58:59,760
be censored off the internet it will not

5584
03:59:05,210 --> 03:59:02,939
no one is stamping out the free speech

5585
03:59:07,670 --> 03:59:05,220
of this filmmaker researcher and

5586
03:59:11,269 --> 03:59:07,680
investigator that would not be fair

5587
03:59:12,469 --> 03:59:11,279
and uh the fair thing is to let this

5588
03:59:15,590 --> 03:59:12,479
person

5589
03:59:17,870 --> 03:59:15,600
have his voice say his peace and I've

5590
03:59:20,210 --> 03:59:17,880
earlier I've done it and I will continue

5591
03:59:22,010 --> 03:59:20,220
to do it I challenge anybody to watch

5592
03:59:26,570 --> 03:59:22,020
this documentary

5593
03:59:28,910 --> 03:59:26,580
and uh make up their own mind

5594
03:59:31,729 --> 03:59:28,920
about what's going on here and what has

5595
03:59:33,950 --> 03:59:31,739
been going on here

5596
03:59:35,330 --> 03:59:33,960
yeah you can search for it on Odyssey as

5597
03:59:36,830 --> 03:59:35,340
well if you go to Odyssey you could go

5598
03:59:39,710 --> 03:59:36,840
to the search bar and just put in the

5599
03:59:41,809 --> 03:59:39,720
hoax files third phase of moon exposed

5600
03:59:42,769 --> 03:59:41,819
look for it or it's on the truth Seekers

5601
03:59:44,929 --> 03:59:42,779
Odyssey Channel

5602
03:59:47,330 --> 03:59:44,939
you can find it there as well the link

5603
03:59:49,250 --> 03:59:47,340
is in our Discord as well says B Baker

5604
03:59:51,110 --> 03:59:49,260
in the general section we will be

5605
03:59:53,389 --> 03:59:51,120
posting the spreadsheet of many links

5606
03:59:55,490 --> 03:59:53,399
there as well yeah we're going to make a

5607
03:59:56,990 --> 03:59:55,500
spreadsheet a master list of all the

5608
03:59:59,689 --> 03:59:57,000
links of where you can see this

5609
04:00:02,630 --> 03:59:59,699
excellent documentary called The hoax

5610
04:00:04,910 --> 04:00:02,640
files third phase of moon exposed which

5611
04:00:06,590 --> 04:00:04,920
clearly establishes that rich from

5612
04:00:08,650 --> 04:00:06,600
goofan and third phase of moon and all

5613
04:00:13,189 --> 04:00:08,660
these other people have been lying to us

5614
04:00:18,469 --> 04:00:13,199
and deceiving people and manipulating

5615
04:00:23,210 --> 04:00:21,530
yeah and Amy Collins says imagine an

5616
04:00:26,389 --> 04:00:23,220
eight to ten hour Stephen can be a

5617
04:00:28,490 --> 04:00:26,399
marathon until the sun is coming up uh

5618
04:00:31,550 --> 04:00:28,500
maybe another night not tonight I'm

5619
04:00:33,650 --> 04:00:31,560
starting to I'm starting to get uh I'm

5620
04:00:34,969 --> 04:00:33,660
running out of steam already Amy Collins

5621
04:00:36,530 --> 04:00:34,979
and I thought I would have trouble

5622
04:00:38,809 --> 04:00:36,540
sleeping tonight but I'm starting to

5623
04:00:40,910 --> 04:00:38,819
feel a little like I could I could

5624
04:00:42,530 --> 04:00:40,920
definitely rest and I definitely need my

5625
04:00:45,050 --> 04:00:42,540
rest because tomorrow night I'm off to

5626
04:00:48,410 --> 04:00:45,060
the cabin and I will be building a porch

5627
04:00:50,809 --> 04:00:48,420
on uh the cabin hopefully if the weather

5628
04:00:52,309 --> 04:00:50,819
is not shitty last weekend the whole

5629
04:00:53,990 --> 04:00:52,319
weekend got rained out because of that

5630
04:00:56,330 --> 04:00:54,000
hurricane from Florida it came up the

5631
04:00:59,210 --> 04:00:56,340
coast and just made rain for the rest of

5632
04:01:01,250 --> 04:00:59,220
us and by the way if you're the praying

5633
04:01:03,610 --> 04:01:01,260
type keep those people in your thoughts

5634
04:01:06,349 --> 04:01:03,620
and prayers and meditations

5635
04:01:11,030 --> 04:01:06,359
that they will recover as quickly as

5636
04:01:15,610 --> 04:01:13,490
Mike says 9 out of 10 doctor lawyers

5637
04:01:18,830 --> 04:01:15,620
agree

5638
04:01:20,450 --> 04:01:18,840
storm Crow says great stuff getting it

5639
04:01:22,010 --> 04:01:20,460
out after third phase of the moon tried

5640
04:01:24,889 --> 04:01:22,020
to ban it well they did get it banned

5641
04:01:26,510 --> 04:01:24,899
from YouTube Nobody's can nobody really

5642
04:01:28,490 --> 04:01:26,520
wants to get hard striked and what you

5643
04:01:31,130 --> 04:01:28,500
have to remember too is that there's

5644
04:01:33,410 --> 04:01:31,140
show clips from both third phase of moon

5645
04:01:35,389 --> 04:01:33,420
in that documentary and two of the

5646
04:01:37,309 --> 04:01:35,399
people that they work with or that work

5647
04:01:38,990 --> 04:01:37,319
for them I can't remember the name of

5648
04:01:41,630 --> 04:01:39,000
the other guy but Rich from goofan's

5649
04:01:43,370 --> 04:01:41,640
Clips is in that documentary as well so

5650
04:01:46,790 --> 04:01:43,380
if you were to upload that to your

5651
04:01:50,630 --> 04:01:46,800
YouTube channel they could theoretically

5652
04:01:53,570 --> 04:01:50,640
uh copyright strike you out of existence

5653
04:01:54,950 --> 04:01:53,580
and do I think they would do that yes I

5654
04:01:56,750 --> 04:01:54,960
do think that they would collude

5655
04:01:58,429 --> 04:01:56,760
together and file three different

5656
04:02:01,429 --> 04:01:58,439
copyright claims from three different

5657
04:02:04,309 --> 04:02:01,439
channels uh claiming copyrights and in

5658
04:02:06,650 --> 04:02:04,319
that case three strikes you're out your

5659
04:02:07,729 --> 04:02:06,660
whole Channel could get nuked by sharing

5660
04:02:10,670 --> 04:02:07,739
this video

5661
04:02:14,389 --> 04:02:10,680
and again let's be clear though those

5662
04:02:16,070 --> 04:02:14,399
clips were used in fair use and uh I

5663
04:02:18,349 --> 04:02:16,080
think it's very clearly established that

5664
04:02:20,210 --> 04:02:18,359
that was fair use the documentary was

5665
04:02:21,790 --> 04:02:20,220
made for educational purposes it's a

5666
04:02:24,590 --> 04:02:21,800
transformative work

5667
04:02:27,110 --> 04:02:24,600
he's using those clips to educate the

5668
04:02:29,750 --> 04:02:27,120
public about the fakery and the hoaxing

5669
04:02:31,309 --> 04:02:29,760
that third phase does about rich lying

5670
04:02:34,849 --> 04:02:31,319
to everybody about the faking and

5671
04:02:38,030 --> 04:02:34,859
hoaxing and this is fair use and then

5672
04:02:40,070 --> 04:02:38,040
he's being critical of them this is fair

5673
04:02:41,870 --> 04:02:40,080
use he's using it to educate the public

5674
04:02:45,410 --> 04:02:41,880
this is fair use

5675
04:02:47,990 --> 04:02:45,420
uh so it's very clear that the use of

5676
04:02:49,849 --> 04:02:48,000
those clips was third face uh excuse me

5677
04:02:51,349 --> 04:02:49,859
uh the use of those third phase Clips

5678
04:02:53,630 --> 04:02:51,359
are rich from goof on Clips or that

5679
04:02:55,429 --> 04:02:53,640
other shows Clips it's very clear that

5680
04:02:58,250 --> 04:02:55,439
that was done in the spirit of fair use

5681
04:02:59,750 --> 04:02:58,260
there was a fair use disclaimer right in

5682
04:03:01,670 --> 04:02:59,760
the beginning of the video there's a

5683
04:03:04,490 --> 04:03:01,680
fair use disclaimer in the description

5684
04:03:07,250 --> 04:03:04,500
of the guys video they still copyright

5685
04:03:09,769 --> 04:03:07,260
claimed them uh and of course just like

5686
04:03:11,870 --> 04:03:09,779
I said they can share anything they want

5687
04:03:14,030 --> 04:03:11,880
and say it's fair use but if you share

5688
04:03:15,710 --> 04:03:14,040
their video they're going to copyright

5689
04:03:17,750 --> 04:03:15,720
claim you and get your video deleted

5690
04:03:20,150 --> 04:03:17,760
from YouTube and strike your Channel

5691
04:03:22,490 --> 04:03:20,160
this isn't about copyrights for them it

5692
04:03:24,950 --> 04:03:22,500
was about stopping people from seeing

5693
04:03:27,170 --> 04:03:24,960
that video and we prevented them from

5694
04:03:29,150 --> 04:03:27,180
doing that and that's one of the things

5695
04:03:30,530 --> 04:03:29,160
that I think down the road I will be

5696
04:03:32,809 --> 04:03:30,540
continue

5697
04:03:35,030 --> 04:03:32,819
one one of those things that we've done

5698
04:03:37,429 --> 04:03:35,040
here that I will be proud of is standing

5699
04:03:40,429 --> 04:03:37,439
up for free speech for the rights of

5700
04:03:41,689 --> 04:03:40,439
people to educate people and the use of

5701
04:03:48,250 --> 04:03:41,699
fair use

5702
04:03:52,969 --> 04:03:51,170
yes it is and the bit shoot links will

5703
04:03:56,030 --> 04:03:52,979
be shared on that spreadsheet in our

5704
04:03:58,309 --> 04:03:56,040
Discord and wherever else we can

5705
04:04:00,710 --> 04:03:58,319
stormcrow says Liars hate when you use

5706
04:04:03,469 --> 04:04:00,720
their own words against them I believe

5707
04:04:07,070 --> 04:04:03,479
that you are right Mike says

5708
04:04:08,750 --> 04:04:07,080
whack-a-mole the tpom hole yes well

5709
04:04:12,530 --> 04:04:08,760
they've got the third phase of fake and

5710
04:04:14,510 --> 04:04:12,540
we've got the fourth phase of Truth so

5711
04:04:17,030 --> 04:04:14,520
um remember when Captain Kirk was on a

5712
04:04:19,910 --> 04:04:17,040
today show and Guthrie was talking past

5713
04:04:21,790 --> 04:04:19,920
what he said yeah I do remember that

5714
04:04:24,170 --> 04:04:21,800
actually

5715
04:04:26,630 --> 04:04:24,180
uh welcome to the show with kind of

5716
04:04:29,090 --> 04:04:26,640
generous 99 Pence I think that is or

5717
04:04:30,769 --> 04:04:29,100
Euro Pence right a super sticker thank

5718
04:04:33,290 --> 04:04:30,779
you for your kindness your generosity

5719
04:04:35,750 --> 04:04:33,300
and your support B Baker says it's on

5720
04:04:37,670 --> 04:04:35,760
Rumble and odyssey and twitch now it is

5721
04:04:39,650 --> 04:04:37,680
on Twitch I can confirm that B Baker

5722
04:04:43,670 --> 04:04:39,660
we'll be posting the spreadsheet of

5723
04:04:48,769 --> 04:04:43,680
links in our Discord and Twitter yes uh

5724
04:04:52,130 --> 04:04:48,779
nothing can There's No Stopping Us Now

5725
04:04:54,110 --> 04:04:52,140
uh B Baker There's No Stopping Us Now

5726
04:04:56,330 --> 04:04:54,120
then there's no stopping that filmmaker

5727
04:04:58,490 --> 04:04:56,340
from having his voice heard I'm proud of

5728
04:05:01,729 --> 04:04:58,500
the fact that we the third phase of moon

5729
04:05:04,070 --> 04:05:01,739
try to take his voice from him we gave

5730
04:05:08,150 --> 04:05:04,080
that voice back to him and we Amplified

5731
04:05:09,950 --> 04:05:08,160
it uh and that's a good thing I mean I

5732
04:05:11,929 --> 04:05:09,960
think it's fair let people see the video

5733
04:05:13,610 --> 04:05:11,939
make up their own mind who's telling the

5734
04:05:16,490 --> 04:05:13,620
truth and who's a liar

5735
04:05:18,349 --> 04:05:16,500
and yeah

5736
04:05:20,389 --> 04:05:18,359
but it'll be interesting to see how they

5737
04:05:23,450 --> 04:05:20,399
try to square him out of it right

5738
04:05:25,189 --> 04:05:23,460
now Leah says I will no problem thanks

5739
04:05:27,290 --> 04:05:25,199
Steven some people are sensitive about

5740
04:05:29,210 --> 04:05:27,300
that Leo like some people go what the

5741
04:05:31,910 --> 04:05:29,220
hell you didn't put my link and I go I'm

5742
04:05:33,590 --> 04:05:31,920
sorry you know I forgot or I'm a

5743
04:05:36,469 --> 04:05:33,600
terrible show host sometimes Leah I'm

5744
04:05:38,809 --> 04:05:36,479
just too busy I do so many things here

5745
04:05:40,790 --> 04:05:38,819
for the show and and I try to be

5746
04:05:42,889 --> 04:05:40,800
organized and have a list like do this

5747
04:05:44,990 --> 04:05:42,899
do this do this do this but I forget to

5748
04:05:46,969 --> 04:05:45,000
put I forgot to put that on the list to

5749
04:05:53,750 --> 04:05:46,979
get it off the list right

5750
04:06:02,210 --> 04:05:56,689
uh

5751
04:06:06,710 --> 04:06:02,220
past the four hour mark we're gonna

5752
04:06:11,510 --> 04:06:08,870
Mike says no matter how hard you try you

5753
04:06:14,450 --> 04:06:11,520
can't stop us now there's a song on my

5754
04:06:16,969 --> 04:06:14,460
other channel uh Mike and it's called No

5755
04:06:20,570 --> 04:06:16,979
Stopping Us Now I'm gonna I'm gonna grab

5756
04:06:23,630 --> 04:06:20,580
that and we're gonna use that as uh a

5757
04:06:26,630 --> 04:06:23,640
rallying cry for all those participating

5758
04:06:29,809 --> 04:06:26,640
in the fourth phase of Truth uh

5759
04:06:31,670 --> 04:06:29,819
operation fourth phase of Truth and uh

5760
04:06:33,590 --> 04:06:31,680
it sounds called there's no stopping us

5761
04:06:35,510 --> 04:06:33,600
or No Stopping Us Now or something like

5762
04:06:38,389 --> 04:06:35,520
that I can't remember the actual title

5763
04:06:41,150 --> 04:06:38,399
uh older song of mine but great Rock

5764
04:06:42,950 --> 04:06:41,160
fight song you know like a fight song we

5765
04:06:44,689 --> 04:06:42,960
need that we need that fight song I'm

5766
04:06:45,410 --> 04:06:44,699
Gonna clip that and put it on the

5767
04:06:46,849 --> 04:06:45,420
channel

5768
04:06:54,290 --> 04:06:46,859
uh

5769
04:06:57,530 --> 04:06:54,300
um hitting on our former guest Leah

5770
04:06:58,550 --> 04:06:57,540
Prime again God damn it mystery Eon this

5771
04:07:01,010 --> 04:06:58,560
is not

5772
04:07:05,030 --> 04:07:01,020
a dating site

5773
04:07:07,670 --> 04:07:05,040
but I I don't blame you very intelligent

5774
04:07:13,010 --> 04:07:07,680
uh amazing woman right and if she's

5775
04:07:17,630 --> 04:07:16,010
B Baker says thanks uh storm I uploaded

5776
04:07:19,849 --> 04:07:17,640
it to rumble and I'll be uploading it to

5777
04:07:21,349 --> 04:07:19,859
bit shoot soon so many cool people have

5778
04:07:24,170 --> 04:07:21,359
helped with this project and I'm just

5779
04:07:26,090 --> 04:07:24,180
one of them yes we have people all over

5780
04:07:29,030 --> 04:07:26,100
the world that are participating in

5781
04:07:31,790 --> 04:07:29,040
operation fourth phase of Truth and I'm

5782
04:07:34,729 --> 04:07:31,800
I'm really happy for that uh I'm

5783
04:07:36,710 --> 04:07:34,739
thankful to all of you really it made me

5784
04:07:39,349 --> 04:07:36,720
feel so good that so many people stepped

5785
04:07:42,229 --> 04:07:39,359
up to and volunteered to help with this

5786
04:07:45,530 --> 04:07:42,239
effort to restore you know freedom of

5787
04:07:48,170 --> 04:07:45,540
speech and to uh do the right thing and

5788
04:07:50,809 --> 04:07:48,180
let people see this evidence

5789
04:07:53,510 --> 04:07:50,819
it's a cool do encrypted research let us

5790
04:07:56,030 --> 04:07:53,520
know what you find and Arlene Atkins is

5791
04:07:58,729 --> 04:07:56,040
checking out of here and I don't blame

5792
04:08:00,290 --> 04:07:58,739
her Patty Williams says UFO dating

5793
04:08:03,469 --> 04:08:00,300
Believe It or Not There is a site for

5794
04:08:04,910 --> 04:08:03,479
people that are UFO people and dating I

5795
04:08:06,830 --> 04:08:04,920
couldn't believe it myself but believe

5796
04:08:08,990 --> 04:08:06,840
it or not that is

5797
04:08:12,830 --> 04:08:09,000
world and Chaos says that Doc is

5798
04:08:14,450 --> 04:08:12,840
destroying crap phase of crap or

5799
04:08:17,750 --> 04:08:14,460
something I can't really make it out

5800
04:08:20,330 --> 04:08:17,760
yeah the the documentary is very clear

5801
04:08:23,050 --> 04:08:20,340
and concise and evidence-based and

5802
04:08:26,809 --> 04:08:23,060
fact-based and it is really really

5803
04:08:29,330 --> 04:08:26,819
uh well done with facts and evidence and

5804
04:08:32,330 --> 04:08:29,340
all the proof they go through 30 plus

5805
04:08:35,990 --> 04:08:32,340
hoaxes and they show you how the hoaxes

5806
04:08:38,090 --> 04:08:36,000
were perpetrated or likely faked by

5807
04:08:40,550 --> 04:08:38,100
Third phase or whatever including all

5808
04:08:42,950 --> 04:08:40,560
the evidence and this guy's amazing like

5809
04:08:44,630 --> 04:08:42,960
he found sites where the videos were

5810
04:08:45,729 --> 04:08:44,640
filmed that nobody thought that was

5811
04:08:48,889 --> 04:08:45,739
possible

5812
04:08:50,570 --> 04:08:48,899
amazing researcher and I'm glad to know

5813
04:08:52,969 --> 04:08:50,580
him and I'm glad that we could help him

5814
04:08:54,410 --> 04:08:52,979
uh I was in communication with him

5815
04:08:56,570 --> 04:08:54,420
earlier today I'm going to be

5816
04:08:58,010 --> 04:08:56,580
communicating him with him as soon as we

5817
04:09:00,830 --> 04:08:58,020
get off air here

5818
04:09:02,510 --> 04:09:00,840
fourth upload's all done I wondered

5819
04:09:04,250 --> 04:09:02,520
where you were yeah I've been a little

5820
04:09:05,929 --> 04:09:04,260
busy here out there Channel

5821
04:09:08,150 --> 04:09:05,939
and thanks also to out there Channel

5822
04:09:10,490 --> 04:09:08,160
there's another four links for us

5823
04:09:12,469 --> 04:09:10,500
four more Links of that documentary

5824
04:09:15,650 --> 04:09:12,479
posted on the internet good luck

5825
04:09:17,570 --> 04:09:15,660
stopping people from saying this now and

5826
04:09:21,290 --> 04:09:17,580
thank you so much world and Chaos for a

5827
04:09:22,490 --> 04:09:21,300
Kind and Generous 9.99 super sticker uh

5828
04:09:24,170 --> 04:09:22,500
thank you for your kindness your

5829
04:09:27,710 --> 04:09:24,180
generosity and your support of the show

5830
04:09:29,990 --> 04:09:27,720
I appreciate that immensely

5831
04:09:32,750 --> 04:09:30,000
hug the like and comment good work is

5832
04:09:35,269 --> 04:09:32,760
being done yes on the way out please do

5833
04:09:38,090 --> 04:09:35,279
like comment subscribe and share if you

5834
04:09:40,429 --> 04:09:38,100
haven't already please do share uh this

5835
04:09:42,290 --> 04:09:40,439
video really does help us to rise in the

5836
04:09:45,550 --> 04:09:42,300
sort in the search engines I don't think

5837
04:09:48,170 --> 04:09:45,560
snory's paranormal date caught on

5838
04:09:53,210 --> 04:09:48,180
you sure she was even alive she was

5839
04:09:57,469 --> 04:09:55,670
yeah uh the out there Channel's been

5840
04:09:58,969 --> 04:09:57,479
busy posting that link all over the

5841
04:10:01,070 --> 04:09:58,979
internet

5842
04:10:03,349 --> 04:10:01,080
sorry not sorry good job out there

5843
04:10:05,330 --> 04:10:03,359
Channel and we appreciate you and we

5844
04:10:07,309 --> 04:10:05,340
thank you for your kindness and and

5845
04:10:10,010 --> 04:10:07,319
you're doing the right thing and helping

5846
04:10:12,889 --> 04:10:10,020
uh support free speech and freedom of

5847
04:10:14,510 --> 04:10:12,899
expression and getting the truth out we

5848
04:10:17,929 --> 04:10:14,520
appreciate that

5849
04:10:20,689 --> 04:10:17,939
no Twitter bans bright teon still yeah

5850
04:10:22,250 --> 04:10:20,699
and they also don't let you send I

5851
04:10:24,969 --> 04:10:22,260
didn't know this because I don't do bit

5852
04:10:28,790 --> 04:10:24,979
shoot but when you send a bit shoot link

5853
04:10:30,830 --> 04:10:28,800
uh Twitter's Twitter uh Flags it as

5854
04:10:33,290 --> 04:10:30,840
suspicious content

5855
04:10:36,050 --> 04:10:33,300
I guess they don't like [\h__\h] you uh you

5856
04:10:39,950 --> 04:10:38,030
Tim Houston is here says finishing work

5857
04:10:41,929 --> 04:10:39,960
gotta go thanks Steve chat room you guys

5858
04:10:43,969 --> 04:10:41,939
roll well thanks for uh putting this on

5859
04:10:46,729 --> 04:10:43,979
while you work Tim Houston and good to

5860
04:10:48,110 --> 04:10:46,739
see you here uh yeah so I'm gonna bounce

5861
04:10:50,150 --> 04:10:48,120
on out of here

5862
04:10:53,150 --> 04:10:50,160
don't threaten me with a good time Leah

5863
04:10:55,130 --> 04:10:53,160
I wish Leah I wish I didn't I wish I

5864
04:10:56,929 --> 04:10:55,140
knew some good single guys I could send

5865
04:11:00,490 --> 04:10:56,939
her but I don't want to send her any

5866
04:11:03,349 --> 04:11:00,500
dumbasses friends of mine you know

5867
04:11:04,910 --> 04:11:03,359
and besides Leah most of my friends are

5868
04:11:06,170 --> 04:11:04,920
working on their third divorce or

5869
04:11:09,110 --> 04:11:06,180
something you probably don't want to

5870
04:11:11,630 --> 04:11:09,120
mess with any of them but if I think of

5871
04:11:14,570 --> 04:11:11,640
anybody good I'll let you know Leah

5872
04:11:15,769 --> 04:11:14,580
Leah's working on her Tinder profile uh

5873
04:11:18,290 --> 04:11:15,779
yeah

5874
04:11:21,650 --> 04:11:18,300
and king of Hugo Mundo says good job

5875
04:11:23,030 --> 04:11:21,660
guys yeah uh thank you we appreciate it

5876
04:11:25,309 --> 04:11:23,040
and

5877
04:11:27,530 --> 04:11:25,319
the out there Channel says I don't want

5878
04:11:29,750 --> 04:11:27,540
channels delete just demonetized but I

5879
04:11:32,630 --> 04:11:29,760
hope they mend their ways and be a real

5880
04:11:34,969 --> 04:11:32,640
truth for change yeah I agree with you

5881
04:11:37,130 --> 04:11:34,979
and uh

5882
04:11:40,729 --> 04:11:37,140
yeah

5883
04:11:42,710 --> 04:11:40,739
oh those were merging timelines search

5884
04:11:44,570 --> 04:11:42,720
Odyssey For Truth Seeker show you will

5885
04:11:47,269 --> 04:11:44,580
find it yeah I think it's under truth

5886
04:11:50,269 --> 04:11:47,279
Seeker show or just truth Seekers if you

5887
04:11:52,969 --> 04:11:50,279
go to Odyssey what does it say uh no

5888
04:11:54,530 --> 04:11:52,979
it's just truth Seekers let me uh go to

5889
04:11:55,849 --> 04:11:54,540
Odyssey Main and I'll see if I can't

5890
04:11:58,189 --> 04:11:55,859
find our Channel

5891
04:12:01,490 --> 04:11:58,199
if you put in truth Seekers one word

5892
04:12:06,410 --> 04:12:01,500
into the Odyssey search bar

5893
04:12:11,990 --> 04:12:08,170
so if you go to

5894
04:12:14,809 --> 04:12:12,000
odyssey.com and that's o-d-y-s-e-e

5895
04:12:17,330 --> 04:12:14,819
not OD you know not the normal spelling

5896
04:12:21,170 --> 04:12:17,340
of Odyssey Odyssey uh video site is

5897
04:12:26,929 --> 04:12:24,530
and go and hit their search bars right

5898
04:12:29,269 --> 04:12:26,939
at the top and just put in true Seekers

5899
04:12:31,910 --> 04:12:29,279
and you'll see the first thing that will

5900
04:12:33,410 --> 04:12:31,920
come up is true Seekers season three

5901
04:12:35,450 --> 04:12:33,420
begins

5902
04:12:37,429 --> 04:12:35,460
uh oh there is somebody beating us in

5903
04:12:40,490 --> 04:12:37,439
the search engines but he boosted his

5904
04:12:42,530 --> 04:12:40,500
his uh he's putting money into being the

5905
04:12:44,750 --> 04:12:42,540
first search guy and it's a channel

5906
04:12:46,550 --> 04:12:44,760
called truth you know hey I don't blame

5907
04:12:49,189 --> 04:12:46,560
them you can do that you can boost

5908
04:12:51,950 --> 04:12:49,199
content uh and you know what I'm gonna

5909
04:12:53,990 --> 04:12:51,960
boost the The Odyssey link to this

5910
04:12:57,229 --> 04:12:54,000
documentary I'm gonna put whatever I

5911
04:12:59,510 --> 04:12:57,239
have looks like I got a 104 something

5912
04:13:01,130 --> 04:12:59,520
immediately spendable credits or

5913
04:13:04,670 --> 04:13:01,140
whatever I'm gonna put that into

5914
04:13:08,510 --> 04:13:04,680
boosting The Odyssey

5915
04:13:11,030 --> 04:13:08,520
um upload of this excellent documentary

5916
04:13:14,389 --> 04:13:11,040
The hoax files third phase of moon

5917
04:13:16,070 --> 04:13:14,399
exposed that's what I can do I don't I

5918
04:13:17,450 --> 04:13:16,080
don't know what those credits are for I

5919
04:13:20,689 --> 04:13:17,460
don't think they're much they're like

5920
04:13:23,030 --> 04:13:20,699
it's not like withdrawable money it's

5921
04:13:25,429 --> 04:13:23,040
credits that people that you get for

5922
04:13:27,849 --> 04:13:25,439
views and so it's a it's an interesting

5923
04:13:29,570 --> 04:13:27,859
system they have but go to

5924
04:13:31,729 --> 04:13:29,580
odysse.com

5925
04:13:33,830 --> 04:13:31,739
and in the search bar at the top just

5926
04:13:35,630 --> 04:13:33,840
put in true Seekers one word and and

5927
04:13:38,570 --> 04:13:35,640
right under the first one

5928
04:13:40,790 --> 04:13:38,580
you will see our Channel it says truth

5929
04:13:42,490 --> 04:13:40,800
Seekers season three begins go to the

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04:13:45,769 --> 04:13:42,500
truth Seekers Channel

5931
04:13:48,830 --> 04:13:45,779
and uh the first video that you should

5932
04:13:49,849 --> 04:13:48,840
see the latest video is the hoax files

5933
04:13:53,210 --> 04:13:49,859
here I'm gonna

5934
04:13:54,769 --> 04:13:53,220
share this and by the way stream yard

5935
04:13:56,929 --> 04:13:54,779
changed something and took away the

5936
04:13:59,030 --> 04:13:56,939
share button and changed it to present

5937
04:14:00,710 --> 04:13:59,040
and I almost had a heart attack earlier

5938
04:14:02,689 --> 04:14:00,720
because I thought I couldn't share

5939
04:14:05,630 --> 04:14:02,699
things and our guests needed to share

5940
04:14:06,830 --> 04:14:05,640
all this stuff so as you can see if you

5941
04:14:10,370 --> 04:14:06,840
go

5942
04:14:12,130 --> 04:14:10,380
truth Seekers

5943
04:14:14,630 --> 04:14:12,140
the first thing that comes up is

5944
04:14:16,910 --> 04:14:14,640
somebody hashtagging truth Seekers

5945
04:14:19,550 --> 04:14:16,920
that's not us but the first channel that

5946
04:14:22,550 --> 04:14:19,560
comes up when you put intrude Seekers is

5947
04:14:24,349 --> 04:14:22,560
us there's our Channel me again the

5948
04:14:25,610 --> 04:14:24,359
strange guy with the sunglasses just go

5949
04:14:30,830 --> 04:14:25,620
to that channel

5950
04:14:36,710 --> 04:14:33,070
and it's

5951
04:14:37,670 --> 04:14:36,720
o-d-y-s-e-e.com backslash at truthseeker

5952
04:14:41,330 --> 04:14:37,680
show

5953
04:14:42,410 --> 04:14:41,340
one word one single true seeker and then

5954
04:14:44,269 --> 04:14:42,420
show

5955
04:14:45,950 --> 04:14:44,279
but just put in truth seekers in the

5956
04:14:48,349 --> 04:14:45,960
search bar and you'll find us and here

5957
04:14:50,389 --> 04:14:48,359
is the hoax files third phase of moon

5958
04:14:53,090 --> 04:14:50,399
exposed then you two can watch this

5959
04:14:55,670 --> 04:14:53,100
excellent documentary for free as well

5960
04:14:58,309 --> 04:14:55,680
as most of our other content also goes

5961
04:14:59,389 --> 04:14:58,319
on Odyssey now we use it as a convenient

5962
04:15:02,330 --> 04:14:59,399
backup

5963
04:15:04,790 --> 04:15:02,340
right uh and there you go world and

5964
04:15:06,769 --> 04:15:04,800
Chaos says I'll boost as well

5965
04:15:08,330 --> 04:15:06,779
yes the out there Channel says it is

5966
04:15:10,550 --> 04:15:08,340
hard to find in search engines but we'll

5967
04:15:12,950 --> 04:15:10,560
be sharing the links they made it a

5968
04:15:14,510 --> 04:15:12,960
little hard for people to see it but

5969
04:15:16,490 --> 04:15:14,520
people are still going to see it I'm

5970
04:15:19,250 --> 04:15:16,500
sure that right

5971
04:15:21,229 --> 04:15:19,260
uh so excellent job everybody did in

5972
04:15:24,469 --> 04:15:21,239
supporting free speech and supporting

5973
04:15:26,510 --> 04:15:24,479
operation fourth phase of Truth and now

5974
04:15:28,370 --> 04:15:26,520
we are gathering links to this

5975
04:15:30,530 --> 04:15:28,380
documentary film from all over the world

5976
04:15:32,090 --> 04:15:30,540
people are uploading them on all

5977
04:15:35,330 --> 04:15:32,100
different websites on all different

5978
04:15:38,990 --> 04:15:35,340
sharing platforms social media sites

5979
04:15:42,590 --> 04:15:39,000
video sites alt video sites it's getting

5980
04:15:45,110 --> 04:15:42,600
shared far and wide and now

5981
04:15:47,570 --> 04:15:45,120
I think many many more people are going

5982
04:15:51,469 --> 04:15:47,580
to see this documentary now because of

5983
04:15:53,870 --> 04:15:51,479
this and this attempt

5984
04:15:55,969 --> 04:15:53,880
at getting it banned from YouTube great

5985
04:15:58,250 --> 04:15:55,979
it won't be on YouTube until that

5986
04:16:00,290 --> 04:15:58,260
copyright claim is resolved it won't be

5987
04:16:02,450 --> 04:16:00,300
but in the meantime it'll be on a

5988
04:16:03,950 --> 04:16:02,460
hundred different other links people can

5989
04:16:07,550 --> 04:16:03,960
find it on

5990
04:16:09,889 --> 04:16:07,560
so uh friends we're gonna bounce on out

5991
04:16:11,929 --> 04:16:09,899
of here didn't expect Today's Show to be

5992
04:16:14,030 --> 04:16:11,939
that long but the long ones I never

5993
04:16:16,990 --> 04:16:14,040
expect right that's just kind of the way

5994
04:16:20,510 --> 04:16:17,000
it goes so I want to thank each of our

5995
04:16:23,090 --> 04:16:20,520
generous and kind benefactors so so

5996
04:16:24,830 --> 04:16:23,100
thankful for our patreon supporters so

5997
04:16:26,570 --> 04:16:24,840
thankful for our channel members

5998
04:16:29,030 --> 04:16:26,580
thankful for you super Chatters

5999
04:16:30,950 --> 04:16:29,040
paypalers cash appers and everyone

6000
04:16:33,349 --> 04:16:30,960
supporting the show

6001
04:16:35,269 --> 04:16:33,359
I'm also thankful for you people who

6002
04:16:37,729 --> 04:16:35,279
support the show by liking commenting

6003
04:16:40,010 --> 04:16:37,739
subscribing and sharing these videos it

6004
04:16:42,969 --> 04:16:40,020
really does help us rise in the search

6005
04:16:46,910 --> 04:16:42,979
engines by the way also my daily prayer

6006
04:16:50,269 --> 04:16:46,920
dear AI algorithm Gods we worship you

6007
04:16:54,229 --> 04:16:50,279
and love you please find favor in our

6008
04:16:56,870 --> 04:16:54,239
work here and Rise us in your algorithm

6009
04:16:59,689 --> 04:16:56,880
search engine so that more people may

6010
04:17:03,410 --> 04:16:59,699
find us and we may flourish in Google's

6011
04:17:06,349 --> 04:17:03,420
name we pray amen yes my life is in the

6012
04:17:08,570 --> 04:17:06,359
hands of a AI algorithm and every day I

6013
04:17:13,010 --> 04:17:08,580
say a prayer that that algorithm will

6014
04:17:15,050 --> 04:17:13,020
like what we are doing here and help us

6015
04:17:16,910 --> 04:17:15,060
um and failing that you can help the

6016
04:17:19,010 --> 04:17:16,920
algorithm like us because the algorithm

6017
04:17:20,990 --> 04:17:19,020
loves engagement so if you leave some

6018
04:17:25,790 --> 04:17:21,000
comments below this video it will really

6019
04:17:28,910 --> 04:17:25,800
help us help the algorithm help us does

6020
04:17:31,070 --> 04:17:28,920
that make sense yes so that's all I got

6021
04:17:34,910 --> 04:17:31,080
for you friends uh

6022
04:17:38,530 --> 04:17:34,920
boy it has been a long week right and I

6023
04:17:42,349 --> 04:17:38,540
feel a little battle beaten but uh

6024
04:17:44,570 --> 04:17:42,359
we made it through and uh and thank you

6025
04:17:47,269 --> 04:17:44,580
all for all of your support it really

6026
04:17:50,689 --> 04:17:47,279
means a lot to me uh that people would

6027
04:17:53,330 --> 04:17:50,699
step up and help me make sure that this

6028
04:17:56,090 --> 04:17:53,340
filmmaker doesn't get his voice

6029
04:18:00,410 --> 04:17:56,100
you know deleted off the internet for

6030
04:18:01,790 --> 04:18:00,420
frivolous reasons uh I'm really thankful

6031
04:18:03,710 --> 04:18:01,800
to all of you

6032
04:18:06,110 --> 04:18:03,720
and what can I say we have an excellent

6033
04:18:09,410 --> 04:18:06,120
crowd of good people who care about the

6034
04:18:11,630 --> 04:18:09,420
truth who are righteous and generous and

6035
04:18:15,530 --> 04:18:11,640
uh

6036
04:18:17,510 --> 04:18:15,540
what more could I ask for than that

6037
04:18:19,610 --> 04:18:17,520
so that's all I got for your friends

6038
04:18:22,070 --> 04:18:19,620
until next time my name is Stephen

6039
04:18:25,660 --> 04:18:22,080
cambian good night and God bless all of

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04:19:46,320 --> 04:18:55,640
[Music]

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04:20:07,429 --> 04:19:46,330
thank you

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04:20:09,810 --> 04:20:07,439
[Music]

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04:20:35,680 --> 04:20:09,820
foreign

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04:20:35,690 --> 04:21:03,070
[Music]

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04:21:10,460 --> 04:21:04,140
thank you

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04:21:38,190 --> 04:21:36,189
[Music]

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04:22:02,570 --> 04:21:38,200
Robin suppose

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04:22:46,610 --> 04:22:15,769
[Music]

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04:22:46,620 --> 04:23:13,600
to try your best

6050
04:23:20,730 --> 04:23:19,570
[Music]

6051
04:23:31,550 --> 04:23:20,740
all right

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04:23:49,070 --> 04:23:31,560
[Music]

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04:24:36,010 --> 04:23:50,910
foreign

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04:24:36,020 --> 04:24:55,370
[Music]

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foreign